Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-10-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 08:10, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 4:45 AM Lukas Ruzicka wrote: >> >> >> >>> Are you proposing to _do_ those things, or proposing that someone else >>> oughta? >> >> >> This is an unfair statement! >> >> I thought Fedora is a community of

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-10-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 at 06:55, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > IMHO: > > Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > * Do we want to support "buildroot-only" packages? > > No, because this contradicts both the transparency expected from a > community-developed project and the self-hosting expectations. > I am in agreement

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8: what changed (regular UNIX admin commands)?

2019-10-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:54, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:11:04PM -0600, David G. Miller wrote: > > "ip" should be used instead. Likewise for using dnf instead of yum, > > systemctl instead of service, firewallcmd instead of iptables, etc. > > I wonder how many shell

[EPEL-devel] Outstanding package requests for EPEL-8

2019-10-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
So this came up in the last EPEL meeting: bugzilla query -s NEW -t 'epel8' --outputformat "%{id}: %{component}: %{summary}" | sort | less Most of these are package requests but some are other types. 1739162: libxml++: libxml++ for EPEL8 1739163: libffado: libffado for EPEL8 1741523:

Re: EPEL-8 branches requests being rejected

2019-10-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 13:03, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 09:12:41AM +0200, Jakub Jelen wrote: > > I think this is a problem that the rsh package is in normal RHEL8 (not > > sure in which stream) and if I am right, packages in rhel can not be in > > epel too. > > > When we

Re: EPEL-8 branches requests being rejected

2019-10-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 03:36, Michal Ruprich wrote: > > Hi Jakube, > > yes the package was there in the early RHEL-8.0.0 branch but has been > removed. So technically it is not in RHEL-8 even though there are some > builds from very long time ago. So perhaps I need to make sure these > disappear

Re: Modularity and all the things

2019-10-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 08:43, Petr Šabata wrote: > > I do believe we all intend the best, even if we sometimes disagree. We > currently don’t have any other proposal that would fulfill the vision > of our Objective and the needs of our users. The input here helps us > re-focus on the most acute

Re: Big Freeze Break Request: replicate db-koji01

2019-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 16:55, Mohan Boddu wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 2:48 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > So, I got db-koji02 all setup and doing streaming replication from > > db-koji01. It has no trouble keeping up. > > > > The bad news is, it doesn't solve the backup problem. > > > > *

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8: what changed (regular UNIX admin commands)?

2019-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 14:11, David G. Miller wrote: > > On 10/22/19 10:55 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Hello Experts! > > > > I'm sure many of you run CentOS for some time already. > > > > My question is: is there some place that lists which of the most often > > used sysadmin commands are gone

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8: what changed (regular UNIX admin commands)?

2019-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 12:55, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Hello Experts! > > I'm sure many of you run CentOS for some time already. > > My question is: is there some place that lists which of the most often > used sysadmin commands are gone and what are replacements for them. Or > what else one

[EPEL-devel] Re: lua5.1-lpeg for EPEL8

2019-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 09:34, Troy Dawson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 5:06 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 06:27, Tomas Krizek wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm trying to build lua-http packa

[EPEL-devel] Re: lua5.1-lpeg for EPEL8

2019-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 06:27, Tomas Krizek wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to build lua-http package for EPEL8, which has lua-lpeg as a > dependency. > > While lua-lpeg was maintained in EPEL7, it was moved to the base > distribution with RHEL8. > > The issue is there are two versions of lua - 5.3

Re: [FBR] bastion: Add sysadmin-odcs to fas_client_groups

2019-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
+1 On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 07:01, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote: > > --- > inventory/group_vars/bastion | 2 +- > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) > > diff --git a/inventory/group_vars/bastion b/inventory/group_vars/bastion > index aeacc87e4..8e63d1a11 100644 > ---

[EPEL-devel] Re: HEADS UP: epel-rpm-macros now makes python mangling shebangs to python3.6

2019-10-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 12:59, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > Hello EPEL maintainers and users, > > I've found today that epel8 builds are mangling python shebangs to > platform-python (which is somewhat internal implementation of python > for internal RHEL needs). So depending on that is quite

Re: Freeze break request: backport Flatpak installation fixes

2019-10-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 12:24, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:45:18AM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote: > > One of the main goals for Fedora 31 Silverblue was to have core > > applications that were removed a few releases ao from the Silverblue > > fixed image because they could be

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 11:08, Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-10-21 at 09:16 -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > The problem is that COPRs do not have any way of communicating with > > each other. If I grab from copr-A and it has libfoo-2.3.1-1 and I > > grab &g

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 09:37, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 15:17 Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >> On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 01:55, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek >> wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 09:30:52PM -0400, Stephen Joh

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 21 Oct 2019 at 01:55, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 09:30:52PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > If I were to start from scratch on this, I would look at the simplest > > solution I would want from Boltron. I want to make it so

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 15:20 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 09:26:31PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Alternate Proposal: > > > > Most things from the original proposal in the first message of this > > thread remains the same except: > > > > Module stream

Unresponsive maintainer: smooge Fwd: [Bug 1451148] libmaxminddb-1.3.2 is available

2019-10-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
So I am declaring myself an unresponsive maintainer on the libmaxminddb and would like someone else to take this package. libmaxminddb is part of the replacement of the GeopIP packages to work with their new database. I took the package because it was orphaned and at the time I figured I could

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 Libvirt /qemu

2019-10-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 16:31, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote: > > Hello, > > can any install more then one KVM Client with UEFI ?? > On my system it is not possible; I have total crash on the system, when I > install a client with UEFI > Could you give better details on what you mean here? There

Re: [FBR 1/1] Enable new mirrorlist server on proxy14

2019-10-18 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 at 11:10, Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 09:13 +0200, Adrian Reber wrote: > > Thanks for that recommendation. Can you point me to a place in > > ansible > > where you are using this? For this FBR I would rather not change it > > and > > go with the current

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 14:15, Randy Barlow wrote: > > Could we think of a solution that is simple so that packagers can more > easily understand how it works? The issue is how many different choices are you allowing and where you are allowing them to be made. A lot of the gentoo and nixos seem

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 10:06, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: > > On 10/16/19 7:36 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > It was never designed to solve parallel installability problem. > > … which is exactly why it causes version hell. > > Could you expand on that? Since a modular system currently

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 20:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > So, literally every word of this is wrong. The negative feedback is > not "overwhelming". It is approximately four noisy individuals, all of > whom have expressed zero interest in understanding the actual > situation that they are trying

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 09:24, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 17. 10. 19 15:17, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 4:33 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> On 17. 10. 19 2:27, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >>> So, literally every word of this is wrong. The negative feedback is > >>> not

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 13:33, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:19 PM Przemek Klosowski via devel > wrote: > > > > On 10/15/19 9:26 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I'm saying that the policy should forbid the use of that feature > except for an absolute emergency, requiring

Re: Big Freeze Break Request: replicate db-koji01

2019-10-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 18:35, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Greetings folks. > > As you may know, currently database backups on db-koji01 are causing > very heavy load, disrupting our users builds ( > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8292 ) > so, they are currently disabled. > > However,

Re: [FBR 0/1] Enable new mirrorlist server on proxy14

2019-10-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 10:22, Randy Barlow wrote: > > On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 10:50 +0200, Adrian Reber wrote: > > This is a freeze break request to enable the new mirrorlist server on > > proxy14 as discussed on the mailing list. > > Would it be feasible to wait until the freeze is over, or is

Re: [Post Fact FBR] update repoSpanner's SSL cert for pagure01

2019-10-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 12:41, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:47:00AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > Good Morning Everyone, > > > > This morning I found out that https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure was > > not > > available, it was throwing a 500 error on every

Re: [CentOS] BackupPC v4 from epel

2019-10-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 03:53, Fabian Arrotin wrote: > > It seems EPEL doesn't use a repoclosure test when pushing from testing > to stable. > Let me just take one simple example : I recently asked a pkg to be built > for epel 8 (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1755787) > Sadly

Re: Failure creating Fedora ID

2019-10-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 19:53, wrote: > > I would like to log a serious issue with https://SoftwareCollections.org > > It says I need a Fedora ID. > OK first off, to log issues with SoftwareCollections, I don't see where having a Fedora ID would do anything (or asked for). On the bottom of the

Re: Freeze break request: update comps for rename of 'dnf-yum' to 'yum'

2019-10-15 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 21:17, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 02:45:49PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey, folks. Requesting a freeze break for this PR (as it applies to > > comps-f31.xml.in): > > > > https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/427 > > > > In F31 'dnf-yum' is

Re: Freeze Break Request: log queries on db-koji01 so we can track down lock issues.

2019-10-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
+1 On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 15:50, Mohan Boddu wrote: > > +1 for me > > On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 3:43 PM wrote: > > > > This of course also includes restarting the db server a few times. > > Outage should just be a few seconds however. > > ___ > >

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 at 16:28, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 05:53:26PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > There has been a shrinking packager problem for years due to multiple > > problems > > Has there? I'm not really seeing a significant change i

Re: [PATCH] postgresql_server / db-koji01: Adjust a bunch more for performance.

2019-10-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 06:22, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 11. 10. 19 v 17:28 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > > config and drop the vm back to 32gb memory, but it seems kind of crazy > > that more memory would cause more slowness. ;( > > Can this be caused by swappiness? More memory, the same

Re: New mirrorlist server implementation

2019-10-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 03:39, Adrian Reber wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 02:02:41PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 08:06:20AM +0200, Adrian Reber wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 08:38:18AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 08:42:13AM +0200,

Re: [CentOS] qeum on centos 8 with nvme disk

2019-10-13 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 at 17:38, Jerry Geis wrote: > > Hi All - I use qemu on my centOS 7.7 box that has software raid of 2- SSD > disks. > > I installed an nVME drive in the computer also. I tried to insall CentOS8 > on it > (the physical /dev/nvme0n1 with the -hda /dev/nvme0n1 as the disk. > >

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 14:29, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > My main gripe is the current situation where users are thrown under the > > bus and then we give them a business card and say: read these > > instruction to figure out how to save yourself. > > I think this is unacceptable. > > Ordinary

Re: Emergency FBR: Lower concurrency on postgres to help load

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 12:10, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:52:20AM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > Currently the load on db-koji is 140+ and it is slow and > > non-responsive to users. I believe it is the below change which has > > affected thi

Re: module package exclusion behavior on EL8

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 19:28, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > I continue to run into strange (at least to me) issues with modules on > EL8. RHEL8 ships a 'rhn-tools' module that ships only the "koan" > package from the cobbler srpm [1]. When this module is enabled, I > cannot install cobbler from my

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 20:33, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:28:37AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> The problem does not only happen if the module is a non-leaf at module > >> level, but there can also be conflicts at package level, if the modules >

Re: FBR : update robosignatory

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Patch looks good and you have a plan of action. +1 On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 09:41, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > > Hey folks, > > Last Monday, before the freeze, we updated Robosignatory in prod with a few > new features, some of which could not be tested in staging as thoroughly as > we wanted to.

Emergency FBR: Lower concurrency on postgres to help load

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Currently the load on db-koji is 140+ and it is slow and non-responsive to users. I believe it is the below change which has affected this. I would like to lower down io to 32 to see if that affects things and tune further if needed. I am not doing this until Kevin or Patrick are around as it will

Re: koji web interface is very slow

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 at 09:19, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:13 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > > > On Friday, 11 October 2019 at 04:36, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > On 10/10/19 4:57 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > > > On 10/10/19 9:23 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >

Re: [PATCH] postgresql_server / db-koji01: Adjust a bunch more for performance.

2019-10-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 12:02, wrote: > > From: Kevin Fenzi > > The current settings cause database dumps to drive the load way up > and make the entire application slow, so we need to adjust. > Using pgtune, these values might well be better. > > shared_buffers + effective_cache_size should =

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL 7 - Packages that won't install - Pass 1

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 14:47, Troy Dawson wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 7:46 AM Robert-André Mauchin > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:22:11 CEST Troy Dawson wrote: > > > * golang-*-devel (Not really broken, you should never need to install > > > these) > > > ** I will not

Re: [PATCH] postgresql_server / db-koji01: Adjust a bunch more for performance.

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 12:59, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:13:41PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > why is work_mem = 157286kB versus 16MB ? > > Thats what the pgtune generator gave me. ;) > > I don't think there's any reason it couldn't be 16MB

Re: [PATCH] postgresql_server / db-koji01: Adjust a bunch more for performance.

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
why is work_mem = 157286kB versus 16MB ? On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 12:02, wrote: > > From: Kevin Fenzi > > The current settings cause database dumps to drive the load way up > and make the entire application slow, so we need to adjust. > Using pgtune, these values might well be better. > >

Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] R710 not iDRAC upgradeable?

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
[EXTERNAL EMAIL] On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 10:46, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > I feel stupid now: > > "System(s) supported by this package: PowerEdge M610, M710, M910"' > + eval _parseMessages '"This' Update Package is not compatible with your > 'system > "' '""' '"Your'

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 19:56, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 10. 10. 19 1:44, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 18:46, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > > > >> What I miss in the description is: > >> > >> 1. How does this

[EPEL-devel] Re: A plan regarding SCLs in EPEL 8

2019-10-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 at 04:04, LAHAYE Olivier wrote: > > Hi, > > What is the strategy regarding packages like nextcould that has a major > update every 5/6 months? > I mean, regarding incompatible upgrades policy. > The incompatible upgrades policy was something we could never really enforce and

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Modules in Non-Modular Buildroot

2019-10-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 18:46, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > What I miss in the description is: > > 1. How does this thing actually work? is there an additional repository > composed > from the default streams available in Koji only? > > 2. How are conflicts between packages from the default streams

Re: [CentOS] What is /etc/subuid ?

2019-10-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 16:34, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On 2019-10-09 14:58, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 02:47:19PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> Could someone enlighten me about the following file: > >> > >> /etc/subuid > >> > >> ? This file appears to be owned by

Re: EPEL 7 is broken for python3 related builds

2019-10-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 15:24, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > > On Oct 9, 2019, at 8:03 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > >> On 09. 10. 19 13:47, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > >> It's going to be a while before EPEL gets all of the "python36" > >> labeled packages rebuilt to say "Provides:

Re: FBR: subscribe fedora-messaging consumers to zmq.topic

2019-10-09 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Sounds good so we don't break on restart. On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 at 10:26, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > > Hey folks, > > The fedora-messaging consumers are currently subscribed to the amq.topic > exchange where they get all messages sent over AMQP. However, the bridges > that forward messages from

[EPEL-devel] Ending EPEL-7 aarch64 support in Fedora build system

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
We are sad to announce that we will be dropping the aarch64 release from EPEL-7 repository. The aarch64 has been built in Red Hat Enterprise Linux as an alternative architecture which was supported with different kernels and other libraries. With the release of RHEL-8.0, Red Hat has decided to not

Re: [EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL 7 is broken for python3 related builds

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:49, Irina Boverman wrote: > > Ok, how will I know what test results are? > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:56 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 07:54:37PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> > On 08. 10. 19 18:48, Irina Boverman wrote: >> > > My build (qpid-proton

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL 7 is broken for python3 related builds

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:49, Irina Boverman wrote: > > Ok, how will I know what test results are? > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:56 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 07:54:37PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: >> > On 08. 10. 19 18:48, Irina Boverman wrote: >> > > My build (qpid-proton

Re: Modularity and the system-upgrade path

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:32, John M. Harris, Jr. wrote: > > We could simply stop doing projects that throw wildly different versions of > software into a single installation, which causes this issue. > We could also just all quit and join potato farming cults.. they are next to the Yak farms

Re: [CentOS] Unique3 and Unique3-devel package missing from CentOS 8

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 15:06, Jerry Geis wrote: > > These packages were in C7 - dont appear to be in C8 - not even in AppStream. > > How do I get them? They aren't in the OS, so I would look at a secondary repository like EPEL. It doesn't look like anyone has requested them there yet so I would

Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] R710 not iDRAC upgradeable?

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
[EXTERNAL EMAIL] On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 12:13, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL] > > Thanks for all the replies. I installed centos and then run the update > > sudo ./BIOS_0F4YY_LN_6.6.0.BIN > > After rebooting I went to the idrac webpage and it claims BIOS version > is 3.0.0

Re: New mirrorlist server implementation

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 02:42, Adrian Reber wrote: > > > Fedora's complete MirrorManager setup is still running on Python2. The > code has been ported to Python3 probably over two years ago but we have > not switched yet. One of the reasons is that the backend is running on > RHEL7 which means we

Re: [CentOS] Glances for CentOS 8?

2019-10-08 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 23:08, Wynona Stacy Lockwood wrote: > > It seems that glances is not in EPEL for CentOS 8. Is that coming at some > point, or has it been deprecated in favor of some other tool? Hi, Because RHEL releases are far apart, packages don't get automatically added to newer EPEL

Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] R710 not iDRAC upgradeable?

2019-10-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 16:07, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > So I want to apply the most recent firmware/bios patch > > https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=0f4yy=ws8r2=poweredge-r710 > >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 and UPS Autoshutdown

2019-10-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 11:48, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 11:47, Ian Prowell wrote: > > > > What is the recommended method for getting UPS monitoring and > > autoshutdown in CentOS 8? EPEL has nut, but I get errors on missing > > dependencie

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 and UPS Autoshutdown

2019-10-06 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 at 11:47, Ian Prowell wrote: > > What is the recommended method for getting UPS monitoring and > autoshutdown in CentOS 8? EPEL has nut, but I get errors on missing > dependencies when trying to install it. I can add details if needed or > helpful. I have looked for apcupsd,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 (less used) packages

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 12:52, Jerry Geis wrote: > > I'm still not catching on to the "new" of CentOS 8 > > yum install yasm > Last metadata expiration check: 0:01:32 ago on Sat 05 Oct 2019 12:46:16 PM > EDT. > No match for argument: yasm > Error: Unable to find a match > > You need to enable

Re: Impact of dropping QEMU emulation on 32-bit hosts ? (~Fedora 33)

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 20:10, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > What do you mean by breaking breaking because you use that term like a > > sledge hammer for anything from a 'pixel off' bug to 'too old software > > is in repos', 'too young software

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 network-scripts

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 18:11, Japheth Cleaver wrote: > > On 10/4/2019 8:17 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On 10/4/19 10:40 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> My impression is younger generation doesn't value rules that > >> programmers were following 2-3 decades ago. One of which is: > >> > >> Do not make

[EPEL-devel] Re: FreeRDP version updates.

2019-10-05 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 at 06:23, Darren Wise wrote: > > Hey folks, > > Whom could I speak to about an EPEL package version update regarding FreeRDP > (freerdp-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-libs-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, > freerdp-devel-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64, freerdp-plugins-1.0.2-15.el7.x86_64) > verses

Re: Don't add default contents in `fedpkg request-branch` tickets Was: Re: can we merge package.cfg into master

2019-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 12:25, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > > On Friday, October 4, 2019 10:57:05 AM CEST Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > > > > > > Le jeu. 3 oct. 2019 à 21:40, Pavel Raiskup a écrit : > > > > > > > > On Friday, September 27, 2019

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 network-scripts

2019-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 10:41, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > > On 2019-10-04 08:03, Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Ljubomir Ljubojevic said: > >> Bridge for VM's is main reason I hate NM. > > +1 > > My impression is younger generation doesn't value rules that programmers > were following

Re: [CentOS] kpatch (live kernel patching) in CentOS 7.7?

2019-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 09:36, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:24 AM Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation(s). > > I'm still puzzled why RedHat is doing it then, and making it more generally > available (to paying customer

Re: [CentOS] kpatch (live kernel patching) in CentOS 7.7?

2019-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 08:18, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 6:33 AM Jim Perrin wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/3/19 9:35 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 13:52, Phelps, Matthew > > wrote: > > >> &

Re: [CentOS] CentOS8 and crypto-policies

2019-10-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 03:49, Todor Petkov wrote: > > Hi, > > I started playing with CentOS8 and I am trying to set default crypto > policies for openssh server/client. In CentOS7 I followed the guide > from https://infosec.mozilla.org/guidelines/openssh.html and set > KexAlgorithms /Ciphers/MACs

Re: [CentOS] kpatch (live kernel patching) in CentOS 7.7?

2019-10-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 13:52, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:42 PM Jim Perrin wrote: > > > > > > > On 10/3/19 1:32 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > > > Forgive me if this has been answered before and I've missed it. > > > > > > This https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2206511

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 11:20, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 03. 10. 19 v 15:56 Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > > On 03. 10. 19 15:23, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> > >> Dne 03. 10. 19 v 11:58 Kevin Kofler napsal(a): > >>> Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 03. 10. 19 1:32, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > I'm not sure

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 Broken Installation

2019-10-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 07:25, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote: > > Hello, > > Am Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2019, 01:10:58 CEST schrieb Akemi Yagi: > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 3:35 PM Günther J. Niederwimmer > wrote: > > > This Board have 2 Controller!° > > > 00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel

Re: Impact of dropping QEMU emulation on 32-bit hosts ? (~Fedora 33)

2019-10-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 at 05:50, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > OK at the moment it looks like we seem to average 311,000 ip addresses > > per day doing a daily checkin for Fedora. Out of those ~13,400 are > > x86_32. The majority of the x86_32 are

Re: Impact of dropping QEMU emulation on 32-bit hosts ? (~Fedora 33)

2019-10-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 12:43, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 04:49:08PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > Perhaps the same reason that many people still run i686 based hardware, and > > will be unable to use Fedora after the release of F31: Why fix what isn't > > broken? >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 package question

2019-10-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 11:16, Jerry Geis wrote: > > I did a "yum search libssh2-devel" it says no matches found. > I did a "yum search libssh2" it says name matched and libssh2. > > Where or how do install the -devel package for C8 ? libssh2-devel was not shipped with RHEL. The package is built

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-02 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 03:39, Felix Schwarz wrote: > > > Am 01.10.19 um 16:55 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: > > Then there are problems with budgets and figuring out what exactly it > > would cost. We fall outside of many of the 'caveats' that would allow > > us to get

[EPEL-devel] Re: Attention: Removal of python36 from EPEL-7 on 2019-10-03

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 15:35, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 01. 10. 19 21:14, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 15:00, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> On 01. 10. 19 19:30, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >>> With the release of R

[EPEL-devel] Re: Attention: Removal of python36 from EPEL-7 on 2019-10-03

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 15:00, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 01. 10. 19 19:30, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > With the release of RHEL-7.7, many of the packages for python36 in > > EPEL were replicated in the release as python3-3.6 packages. The > > normal pattern when t

Re: [CentOS] upgrading from CentOS 7 to 8

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 14:00, MAILIST wrote: > > > Your answer has nothing to do with the original question which is related > > to upgrade method and not condition for reinstalling without loosing > > data. > > After 40 years of upgrading many different operating systems, > Windows (from 3.1 to

[EPEL-devel] Attention: Removal of python36 from EPEL-7 on 2019-10-03

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
With the release of RHEL-7.7, many of the packages for python36 in EPEL were replicated in the release as python3-3.6 packages. The normal pattern when this is seen is to remove the packages from EPEL so that they do not cause problems. However, this did cause problems for users of CentOS-7 who

Re: Starting to address backlog

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 12:33, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > 8065 Move older koji builds to archive volumes xx > > > > > > This is already in progress and has been for some time. I'd love to talk > > > to others and explain how it's being done and get some documentation > > > written up on it

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 10:18, Joe Doss wrote: > > On 9/26/19 11:57 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: > > I would like to hear if you see Pagure as still strategic, and if so, > > how we can make these common user operations faster. > > I always wondered why Fedora home rolled their own Github/Gitlab clone.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8: Multiple bugs with email/calendar

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 10:17, Georgios wrote: > > First of all thanks for your fast reply. > > > Second. > The server im trying to use is https://dav.mailbox.org/caldav I dont > think its a problem with my configuration (although i can always be > wrong). I suspect a bug in evolution because

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8 and Lynx

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 09:20, david wrote: > > Folks > > I find the Lynx browser does not appear in any of the repositories > used during default installation of Centos 8 (x86_64). Is this > program no longer supported? I didn't see a reference to it in the > notsupported list. > The lynx

Re: [CentOS] SquidGuard update in EPEL

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 05:56, Tony Mountifield wrote: > > In article , > Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > Le 01/10/2019 à 09:05, Liam O'Toole a écrit : > > > [...] > > > > > > FWIW, the current release has squidguard 1.6 > > > https://packages.debian.org/source/stable/squidguard > > > > And this all

Re: [CentOS] Centos 8: Multiple bugs with email/calendar

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 03:40, Georgios wrote: > > Hi there! > I recently installed centos 8 on my laptop. > > I have the following problems > > 1. I tried the use the default evolution 3.28. > The problem with 3.28 is that when i try to create an event i get the error > "Failed to create an event

Re: 2020 Datacenter Move: Request for comments

2019-10-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 at 04:35, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 01. 10. 19 v 9:53 Peter Robinson napsal(a): > > Warrantee generally doesn't cover moves but the DC shipping company > > should have insurance to cover breakages they cause as mistakes > > happen. > > It is hard to claim something if the

Re: Starting to address backlog

2019-09-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 16:22, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Greetings. > > A few weeks ago I went and tagged a bunch of old releng and > infrastructure tickets with the 'backlog' tag. Clement added some more > the other day. > > In our last meeting we did some simple voting on the list to determine >

Re: Finding out ownership of packages & branches

2019-09-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 14:54, Tim Jackson wrote: > > Old, irregular maintainer here; apologies if this is a stupid question. > > Where is the canonical source these days for establishing package > (co-)ownership, in particular in relation to individual branches? > > I looked pretty much

Re: [CentOS] SquidGuard update in EPEL

2019-09-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 at 02:34, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > Hi, > > The SquidGuard URL redirector has recently been updated in EPEL, and I'm > a bit puzzled. I'm still using SquidGuard on a few local proxy servers > running CentOS 7, because it's a nifty piece of software for filtering > web traffic.

Re: Defining the future of the packager workflow in Fedora

2019-09-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 09:02, Remi Collet wrote: > > Le 26/09/2019 à 11:36, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit : > > Here is what the vision we came to and that we would like to discuss: > > > > ○ Every changes to dist-git is done via pull-requests > > IMHO Have to stay optional, making this mandatory

Re: [CentOS] Missing packages in centos8 mirrors or do I miss something?

2019-09-26 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 at 05:24, LAHAYE Olivier wrote: > > Hi, > > I need to port OSCAR Cluster and SystemImager softwares to centos8, but I > miss a lot of package that seems to be built for centos-8. > For example, I cant find docbook-utils and docbook-utls-pdf while I see them > here:

Re: epel-8-{x86_64,ppc64le,aarch64} chroots enabled in copr

2019-09-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 17:32, Omair Majid wrote: > > Hi, > > Pavel Raiskup writes: > > > CentOS 8 repositories are now available, so @msuchy released new > > `mock-core-configs` (see updates-testing), and so we were allowed to enable > > epel-8 chroots in Copr! Feel free to build against them.

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