Re: [Debconf-team] DC16 web pages: Sponsor page and logos

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 09:34:30PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Raoul Snyman  wrote:
> > On 29/10/2015 18:32, Daniel Lange wrote:
> >> we have the first sponsor DC16 now (yeah!) and I've added the logo to the
> >> git.debian.org/git/debconf-team/logos repro.
> >>
> >> Who wants to make a sponsors-page on the current static site and add
> >> them as the first silver sponsor?
> >> (You design it, you decide on logo sizes and convert to .odg to .png,
> >> .svg or whatever please.)
> >
> > I'll take a look at this tonight.
> 
> Thank you for looking into this. Did you have any luck? (We've now got
> a second committed sponsor.)

He did:
http://debconf16.debconf.org/sponsors.html

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Re: [Debconf-team] Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 08:49:31AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 19/10/15 at 22:49 +0200, Daniel Lange wrote:
> > Dear team,
> So, the way I understand it, this proposal does three things:
> 
> 2) move the chairs selection process from designation by the DPL to
> election by the DebConf team. 

If I'm understanding the draft correctly, there would be initial
appointments by the DPL for terms of 2 and 3 years. Then subsequently
elections would be held when those terms expire or a delegate resigns.

What is the rationale for this mix of appointment and election?

I think that I prefer an election. I have understood some of the
conflict between the past chairs and debconf-team to have arisen out of
a sense that the choice of chairs was imposed from above. Preferring an
election, I don't want to wait 2 & 3 years for a chance to vote.

It doesn't make much sense to me at the moment to try to have it both
ways.

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[Debconf-team] Deadline (Re: Collaboratively drafting the next DebConf delegation)

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:49:11PM +0200, Daniel Lange wrote:
> Dear team,
> Please contribute your ideas / changes / amendments within the next two  
> or three weeks. Edrz extended the deadline to 16.11.2015 so that we  
> should have sufficient time for discussion. I hope that we can come up  
> with one joint proposal for a delegation letter draft for the DPL from  
> DebConf as a whole.

It's impossible for me to have extended a deadline that had not yet been
announced. I don't consider it appropriate for the drafters to set a
deadline nor for me to do so.

Daniel mentioned the titanpad draft yesterday on irc around 20:30 UTC.
AFAIK this was the first public mention that a draft was in progress.
The titanpad timeline shows it has been discussed at least since
2015-10-08. By version 42 we have mention of a private email from
Bernelle:

https://titanpad.com/ep/pad/view/DC16-draft-delegation-proposal/rev.42

Before that it is impossible to tell how long this has been in the
works. An undisclosed group have been corresponding in private about
this draft for at least 12 days _and_ proposed to give anyone they
excluded only 2 weeks to respond, contribute or create a counter
proposal. You have given yourselves an unfair head start on anyone who
might disagree with you.

I objected to the 2 weeks and was told "it's a titanpad, change it" so I
added 2 weeks, which is my sole contribution. Maybe 4 weeks from now is
fine, maybe it's too long, maybe it's not long enough. A deadline needs
to be set, but not by me and not by the drafters.

-edrz

(more to come in separate mails about transparancy and the actual
substance of the draft(s))
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Re: [Debconf-team] website presence meeting: crunch time.

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 07:49:06PM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote:
> Hi all
> May I suggest Wednesday 18:00 UTC just because I see no other
> alternative. Please feel free to suggest another day/time.
> 
> * Can we get an idea for what is in the running, and who is driving it?
> Systems intended to show convincing argument by deadline, and lead
> person driving it:
> wafer (hodgestar)
> odoo? (madduck?)
> (edrz?)

I'm not driving anything. 

> (Modify as appropriate on the titanpad, not in the email thread)

Done.

> * Then I put the advantages and disadvantages for each 'contender'.
> The way this is written feels very battle-like, which is not (really)
> intended. If you have another way of summarising this, please go ahead
> (a table in a wiki?) The point is that at the meeting I don't want to
> go through all of this, it should be clear by then.

Wafer seems to have the momentum, so its ok with me if we skip the
battle and just figure out who's going to do what to make wafer work for
DC16 (and beyond).

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Re: [Debconf-team] Timeline: Registration, Content

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 04:09:15PM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I'd like to get the content for registration going, as well as the
> timeline dates , some jottings at [1].
> 
> We need info on "speaking (topics, deadlines, type of talk) " now
> already as sponsors may be interested in this too, and I'm guessing
> it's not too different from previous years - who is generally in
> charge of this?

https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Teams#Content_team

> Can I start a draft for comment?
> 
> This is also useful for website content.
> 
> Cheers
> B
> 
> [1] - https://debconf16-capetown.titanpad.com/2

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[Debconf-team] Scheduling web meeting Re: DebConf meetings this week

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:17:23AM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote:
> Hi all
> 3. Website chatting on #debconf-infra, list discussion topics on titanpad 
> (e.g.
> [1])

> 3. The website meeting is next week, may I suggest it replaces the weekly
> meeting next week - aka Wednesday 30 Sept, 19:00 UTC? Until then can all 
> issues
> get raised on #debconf-infra and documented on the titanpad [1], so the 
> meeting
> can just recap and reach decisions? Like the coord meeting, attendance is not
> compulsory but all are welcome.
> 
> [1] - https://titanpad.com/443gTylF6p

PyConZA [1] is 1 & 2 October. I wonder if that might make it hard for
those involved in or attending that event to have time for a DebConf
meeting on 30 Sept.

I tried to look though the dudle to get an idea of a time and date that
would work for most of those who have expressed interest, but the
interface is rather ungainly. I'll try again tomorrow with fresher eyes
if no one else has gotten to it. But, is there a way to clone the poll
in order to remove those who aren't interested? (Or do we need a new
poll?)

-Eric

[1] https://za.pycon.org/
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf meetings this week

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 12:16:11PM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote:
> I hope in due course we can make these meeting notifications smoother,
> suggestions welcome.

Perhaps listing what's scheduled for the next 2 weeks would help.

-Eric
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Re: [Debconf-team] Scheduling DC16 meetings

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

(I didn't get Tassia's mail below for some reason ...)

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 09:26:34AM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I would suggest those who can, join in the meeting. 

Ok.

> Regards
> B
> 
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015, Tassia Camoes Araujo <tas...@acaia.ca> 
> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:24:06AM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
> > We could have a meeting tomorrow, but attendance is often low when a
> > meeting is announced on such short notice. I would suggest trying to
> > settle on a schedule today, then set and announce the next meeting for
> > next week.
> I see your point, but this is not a new meeting. 

I didn't understand that. Sorry and nevermind. :)

> DC16 meetings are already
> happening weekly since before DC15, this new dudle aims to access the 
> wider
> team availability since now more people are expected to attend. But I'd 
> say
> that in the absence of a new schedule, the old one holds (which actually
> happens to be the same). Thus I see no reason to postpone tomorrow's
> meeting.
> More people will join when they are ready, if not this week, the next one,
> or later in the year.
> 
> These are my 2 cents, let's see what Bernelle and Stefano have to say.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Scheduling DC16 meetings

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 09:28:00AM -0400, Tassia Camoes Araujo wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 08:27:58AM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, September 16, 2015, Tassia Camoes Araujo
> > > <tas...@acaia.ca> wrote: Hi Eric, On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at
> > > 10:24:06AM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
> > > > We could have a meeting tomorrow, but attendance is often
> > > > low when a meeting is announced on such short notice. I
> > > > would suggest trying to settle on a schedule today, then set
> > > > and announce the next meeting for next week.
> > > I see your point, but this is not a new meeting. 
> > I didn't understand that. Sorry and nevermind. :)
> Sorry, English is not my best friend that late at night ;-)

No worries.
 
> I was just trying to contrast this with the situation where we need to
> find a convenient time for an adhoc ("new") meeting. In the present
> case the meetings were already happening, we were just re-evaluating
> the time. That's why I don't think it is "short notice". Otherwise I
> would agree with you, short notice calls are usually problematic.

Yes, I understand now.

-Eric 
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Re: [Debconf-team] Scheduling DC16 meetings

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 12:54:48PM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote:
> It looks like Wednesdays 19:00 UTC (21:00 SAST/local event time) still
> seems good. If there's no massive objections, can we then make the
> meeting tomorrow night? Please add agenda items on the wiki (currently
> still blank) [1].

We could have a meeting tomorrow, but attendance is often low when a
meeting is announced on such short notice. I would suggest trying to
settle on a schedule today, then set and announce the next meeting for
next week.

-Eric
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Re: [Debconf-team] font licensing notes

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 10:21:01PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> (sorry, hit reply-to-list which sent to debconf16-team before, please
> reply here)
> 
> Hi Allison and Tammy (and team)
> 
> On 09/09/2015 21:15, Allison Randal wrote:
> > Just a quick skim, to think about as we settle on fonts:
...

...
> > 
> > Tammy, I don't know what other fonts you're experimenting with, but I
> > can quickly check their licenses for you.
> 
> Thanks Allison, that's very useful, I went ahead and added them to the
> wiki along with their license info and download links:
> https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf16/Artwork

(I'm not subscribed to debconf16-team, so forgive me if you've
previously discussed this.)

I don't know much about licenses. But, DebConf users will file bugs [0]
if we make them pull anything (fonts, css, js, etc) from anywhere else.
Which is to say I think we'll need to be able to serve our own copy of
whatever we end up using.

-Eric

[0] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781402
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Re: [Debconf-team] This week's meetings...

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 10:33:21AM +0200, Bernelle Verster wrote:
> Hi all
> * 2. Website meeting - Tammy, Raoul, Simon

Other possibly relevant persons: wendar, tumbleweed, cate, edrz (me),
(other past contributors ...), ...

> Agenda:
> ** 0. Timeframe - get prelimanary deadlines for all components of
> website. - Bernelle can oversee this, but needs input from team.
> ** 1. Design - Tammy to coordinate, incl content
> ** 2. Front end design - Raoul to coordinate. [todo] incl
> templatizing, decide on static site type (wafer?), layout and UX and
> meta, wireframes, mockups, content matrix... "move information from
> the website to the wiki"
> ** 3. Back end design (wafer) - will this be part of the meeting, Simon?

.oO( ** 4. SSL cert ... )

I'm not sure I understand this split between frontend and backend. 

For too long we've had (at least) 3 separate web facing systems: static
site, wiki, conference management system (penta, summit, wafer(?)). The
topics listed in 2. apply to each at least to some degree. Some of us,
myself included, would like to see the 3 systems integrated as much as
possible with a unified look/feel/user experience and minimised
duplication of data, content and effort.

Perhaps we can call it a web presence meeting?

-Eric
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Re: [Debconf-team] Patch to DebConf orgateam structure

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:14:01PM -0700, Allison Randal wrote:
 On 08/29/2015 03:01 AM, Margarita Manterola wrote:
  When I advocate for the local team it's not for these people, but for
  the volunteers that will show up along the way.  For those volunteers,
  joining debconf-team is traumatic. There's too many flamewars, too
  many things going on at the same time, and they have no idea how to
  fit into the already existing structures, they just want to help.
 
 One thing we need to work on is reducing those flamewars. They're not
 helpful to anyone. We absolutely need to improve communication and
 collaboration in the whole team. Remember, long-term team members aren't
 immune to being driven away by an unhealthy environment.

I've been wanting to say much the same. The unhealthy environment is one
of the main reasons I stopped participating for many months earlier this
year. I'm sure I wasn't the only non-newcomer to walk away. I know that
wasn't a helpful reaction. At the same time I felt that venting my
frustrations and growing rage wouldn't have been helpful either.

Also, non-local newcomers can be and probably have been put off by the
disfunctions in the overall team environment.

  We need those volunteers, we need to be able to delegate stuff towards
  them, otherwise the DC16 organizing team has too big of a burden.  But
  asking those volunteers to join debconf-team, follow the tons of
  discussions, follow the IRC meeting on #debconf-team, etc, has been
  proven to be too much. They just don't, which makes it much harder to
  integrate them so there's a high chance that you'll lose them.
  
  Of course, if any new recruits that join that local team feel like
  they want to integrate into the global structure they are totally
  welcome to join. It's not like being part of the local team precludes
  taking part in content, fundraising, or any other teams. It's just
  that it's not a pre-requisite to understand and fit into the structure
  in order to volunteer for working towards DC16.
 
 That point was mentioned too. But again, all that requires is for local
 members of the DebConf team to make local volunteers feel welcome.
 Defining a local team doesn't help with that.

A safe environment to discuss DebConf in a given year's local language
is one solid argument I've heard in the past in favor of a local team. I
don't recall seeing that mentioned in this thread thus far. I think
there have been more than a few years where many local newcomers, and
consequently the conference as a whole, benefitted from being able to
communicate about the conference in their native language. Perhaps that
need can be met by an irc channel and list, without being a formal team.
I honestly don't know. Not an issue for dc16, afaik, but should be kept
in mind as we are talking about more than just the coming 10 months.

-edrz
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Re: Timestretching task, now Audio Utilities task

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 04:21:48PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On 22 August 2015 at 14:01, Ross Gammon r...@the-gammons.net wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  Previously, the timestretching blends task only had a few packages that
  fitted that small theme. Meanwhile there were loads of other audio
  utilities that were scattered around other tasks (like recording, mixing
  and players) and tending to add a lot of clutter.
 
  I have now widened the scope of the timestretching task so that it is
  about Audio Utilities (e.g. audio conversion, chopping, pitch shifting,
  tagging, silence detection etc.).
 
  http://blends.debian.org/multimedia/tasks/timestretching
 
  Take a look and let me know what you think. If there are no objections,
  I will rename the meta-package as well, ready for the next upload.
 
 Looks good to me, much better than the single-purpose timestretch task.

ecatools would seem to me to fit in that scope. Maybe ecasound itself?
(at least in the lower relevance section.)

-Eric Rz.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Orga sprint meetings tomorrow 10:00 and 16:00, room Amsterdam

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 07:53:11PM +0200, Daniel Lange wrote:
 Ladies and Gentlemen,

 there are two sprint meetings for orga topics tomorrow:

 13 Aug 10:00 Amsterdam DebConf confmanagement system sprint
 13 Aug 16:00 Amsterdam DebConf orga sprint

Will there be somesort of report of what occurred in the afternoon orga
sprint?

-Eric
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Re: [Debconf-team] registration sprint video

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 08:38:54AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
 Hello Eric,
  On 17 Aug 2015, at 06:25, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 01:48:12PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
  Hi folks,
  The registration sprint video is up at
  http://veyepar.dc15.debconf.org/static/veyepar/debian/debconf15/webm/DebConf_registration_system_sprint.webm
  At the start of the video Martin points to the screen and mentions a
  titanpad. Can someone point me to it?
 it is this
 https://titanpad.com/20150813-confmgmt
 And some additional technical discussion (about wafer, micro services) should 
 be done onsite, but not yet done.
 Wendar and tumbleweed: when do you have time for a very informal discussion 
 of what you have in mind?
 ciao
   cate

Towards the end of the sprint there was talk of a hacking session and
perhaps an ad-hoc event sometime this week. Has anything further
occurred or been scheduled?

For various reasons I wasn't in #debconf-team or -infra or
#debconf16-capetown (or ???), so I don't have irc logs of that side of
the discussion. Can someone make logs for that time frame available?

Thanks,
Eric
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Re: [Debconf-team] registration sprint video

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 01:48:12PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 The registration sprint video is up at
 http://veyepar.dc15.debconf.org/static/veyepar/debian/debconf15/webm/DebConf_registration_system_sprint.webm
 
 I probably need to talk to Holger to be able to upload those videos to
 video.debian.net, but for now you can access them directly from the
 encoding server.
 
 There is still an issue with the audio normalization that I need to
 fine-tune, so the audio may be fairly quiet right now.

At the start of the video Martin points to the screen and mentions a
titanpad. Can someone point me to it?

Thanks,
Eric Rz.
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Re: [Debconf-team] registration sprint video

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 07:03:20AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com [2015-08-17 06:25 +0200]:
  At the start of the video Martin points to the screen and mentions
  a titanpad. Can someone point me to it?
 
 https://titanpad.com/20150813-confmgmt
 
 Allison wanted to move this to a wiki page today, but I am sure
 she'll add a pointer when done.

Great. Thanks.

-Eric
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Bug#781553: summit.debconf.org: event submissions leads to creator not listed as speaker

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 01:21:16AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
 Package: summit.debconf.org
 Severity: normal
 
 Right now, if somebody submits an events, they are not listed as speaker
 on the URL, e.g. (as of right now):
 
 https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/meeting/184/reproducible-builds-roundtable-discussing-the-changes-needed-for-officially-reproducible-builds/

The propose_event view wasn't adding the proposer to the meeting.speakers
field. Fixed in:

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debconf-data/summit.git/commit/?id=4742c3af3e570d6db4970293d8b04e8631c5a1b9

Tomorrow I'll try to put together a script to populate the speakers field for
previously proposed events.

 Furhtermore, content team members do not see the creator as speaker when
 editing the event:
 
 https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/edit_mtg/184/reproducible-builds-roundtable-discussing-the-changes-needed-for-officially-reproducible-builds/
 
 I think this is not intuitive.

Agreed. Fixed in:

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debconf-data/summit.git/commit/?id=d840cdcb6df1d1c7f7d2ed6b0803eba66bd16dfe


I'll leave this bug open until we've backfilled the missing Speakers.

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Bug#781555: summit.debconf.org: adding additional speakers is cumbersome and errorprone

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 01:28:45AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
 Package: summit.debconf.org
 Severity: normal
 
 Hi,
 
 as a content team member, one can edit additional speakers via the Edit
 Meeting form.  However, the UI is a simple multi-select, and it seems
 very easy to remove existing speakers from it.  This is the same for the
 admin UI view.
 
 I think it would be really much better if the
 Speakers/Coordinators/Moderators list would be just a line for each
 key person who is already confirmed with a way to delete them, similar
 to the Participants view.
 
 The rationale is that multi-speaker/roundtable presentations are really
 quite common in DebConf and should be easy to handle.

I agree this should be improved. After 781553 is done, I'll try to get
something better.


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Re: [Debconf-team] Cannot sign in with Alioth Account

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:41:43AM +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Mar 2015, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 
  On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Meike Reichle me...@alphamar.org wrote:
  
   I just noticed that I cannot use my alioth account (meike-guest) to sign 
   in
   at https://summit.debconf.org/debconf15/registration/
   It works on https://alioth.debian.org/ but the Debian Single Sign On page
   gives me an Authentication failed. Who should I contact about this? Is
   this a DebConf, an alioth or an SSO issue?
  
  Alioth is under _massive_ load at the moment; if there are errors from
  time to time, I would suspect it's a load issue and just try again
  later.
 alioth isn't under load anymore, but anyhow alioth isn't involved in the
 login process. The LDAP tree gets regulary synced to the SSO host, therefore
 it is not possible that an unavailable alioth host influences the login
 process.

Is it possible for there to be a problem with the sync, then?

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Re: [Debconf-team] problems with DC14 website(s) and getting a list of talks

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:53:55PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
 Hi, please forgive me if this isn't the right place to report the
 following.
 
 I was interested to see a list of talks that took place at DC14, so I
 went to the DC14 website[1] and clicked 'Schedule'[2]. The resulting
 page on a different sub-domain talks about DC14 in the wrong tense
 (DebConf14 will be held…)

Fixed now.

 and it seems I must Register in Summit to
 get any further. Is it really expected for people to register to see a
 list of talks for a conference in the past?

Yes, we should stop showing the register button. But, the various links
to the schedule work without logging in.

 If I click around a bit further I can find links to the video streams
 host[3] but this site is only showing the default nginx page and has no
 onward links.
 
 Sadly, I am currently without an index of talks with hyperlinks to
 corresponding recordings where available. (I can get to the recordings
 directly, mostly by remembering the address from prior debconfs, but
 guessing the talk topic from the filenames is sub-optimal.)

This is indeed a missing feature. It's on the list of stuff to fix
before DC15. Once we've added it we can populate the links for DC14.
Sadly no one has had time, yet, to fix this.

(important and long standing https issues snipped as they are beyond my
control)

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Re: [Debconf-team] Please have a mailing list for content team

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On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 06:00:20PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Margarita Manterola margamanter...@gmail.com [2015-02-24 16:45 
 +0100]:
  However, with the new organization, a lot of matters fall in the hands
  of the content team that really don't warrant any secrecy
  (organization of sprints, conference schedule, call for proposals,
  etc).
 
 I'm with David Bremner and don't think we need another list,
 especially since e.g. conference schedule is not really just content
 team realm, but a task that requires collaboration from whatever
 team does the venue and general logistics.
 
  Many of us that are not in the content team would like to be able
  to read and/or participate in this discussions.  It's not in the
  spirit of Debian nor DebConf to have this discussions hidden from
  the rest.
 
 I agree with you that we don't want cabals and secrecy. However, we
 should also make sure that we're ready for this, that is that having
 possibly endless public discussions does not prevent people in
 charge from making decisions in a timely manner.

I feel, if I understand her correctly, as Marga does about this and said
so in the meeting.

I don't necessarily want to subscribe to another list, but do want to be
able to look back at a public archive to understand why certain
decisions were made in order to provide informed feedback and input.

As for having it on -team ... you have said many times in various ways
that we need to trust teams to do their work and make their decisions,
which I think I mostly agree with. I don't know if it's the right way or
best way to get to that goal, but it seems likely to me that a separate
public list could be a mechanism to mentally and logistically provide
that autonomy while also providing transparency.

That said, using -team, imho would be better than the content@ alias,
just by virtue of being public. It might require something of a cultural
shift and change of thinking for many of us (myself definitely included)
to provide a sub team with input, advice and opinions w/o trying to
control or micro-manage that sub team's decisions.

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[Debconf-video] [santi...@debian.org: Re: [Debconf-team] Draft schedule format]

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Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:24:26 +0100
From: Santiago Ruano Rincón santi...@debian.org
Subject: Re: [Debconf-team] Draft schedule format
To: debconf team list debconf-t...@lists.debconf.org
Cc: cont...@debconf.org

Hi there!

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:57:22PM +0100, Margarita Manterola wrote:
 Dear content team,
 
 Madduck, Maxy and me visited the hostel yesterday, to discuss several
 of the local issues, and they indicated that we could work with them
 into perhaps making some changes to the food times that they had given
 us. This is not a certain thing and would require some pushing and
 negotiating, but if we really need it, we could try to do it.

AFAIK, lunch and dinner would overlap 30 minutes each with talks/events,
and the last 15 minutes of breakfast with the daily announcements. I
don't know if this would be a real problem. Do you think 1h30 dedicated
for lunch would be enough? Maybe we should have a 2 hours break at
noon?

 
 I know that you are working on a draft schedule format for DebConf15,
 but I don't know the exact details of the work that is going on.
 
 It would be nice if you could publish the draft that you have been
 working on up to now, and if you could tell us if there are any
 changes with the times that we should push for in our future
 negotiations with the hostel.

I've pushed in debconf-data git repo an ods spreadsheet that summarizes
what would be a possible schedule for the week.

debconf-data/dc15/schedule/debconf15-schedule.ods

Am I missing something?

Cheers!

Santiago
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Bug#776982: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 12:19:53AM -0500, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 03:36:33AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com 
  wrote:
  
   Are we settled on debconf-in...@lists.debian.org ?
  
  Maybe wait over the weekend; if there's no opposition then that's the name.
 
 Will do. Thanks. -edrz

Done: https://lists.debian.org/debconf-infra/

I think we've now answered all of Don's questions.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

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On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 12:19:53AM -0500, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 03:36:33AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
  On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com 
  wrote:
  
   Are we settled on debconf-in...@lists.debian.org ?
  
  Maybe wait over the weekend; if there's no opposition then that's the name.
 
 Will do. Thanks. -edrz

Done: https://lists.debian.org/debconf-infra/

I think we've now answered all of Don's questions.

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[Debconf-team] [ow...@bugs.debian.org: Bug#776982 closed by Don Armstrong d...@debian.org (reply to ow...@bugs.debian.org) (Re: Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

The summit.debconf.org psuedo-package has been created. 

-edrz

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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:03:05 +
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Subject: Bug#776982 closed by Don Armstrong d...@debian.org (reply to
ow...@bugs.debian.org) (Re: Bug#776982: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: 
Request
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which was filed against the bugs.debian.org package:

#776982: add summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

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Their explanation is attached below along with your original report.
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:00:12 -0800
From: Don Armstrong d...@debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#776982: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Request for
summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
To: 776982-d...@bugs.debian.org

Created with the following settings:

diff --git a/pseudo-packages.description b/pseudo-packages.description
index 4296336..56f9522 100644
--- a/pseudo-packages.description
+++ b/pseudo-packages.description
@@ -34,3 +34,4 @@ piuparts.debian.org   Issues with the piuparts.debian.org 
service
 sso.debian.org  Problems and requests related to the Debian Single 
Sign On system
 tracker.debian.org Issues with the Debian Package Tracker and coordination 
of its maintenance
 d-i.debian.org Issues regarding the d-i.debian.org service and general Debian 
Installer tasks
+summit.debconf.org Problems and requests related to the DebConf Summit 
instance
diff --git a/pseudo-packages.maintainers b/pseudo-packages.maintainers
index 442d2e0..7fbe228 100644
--- a/pseudo-packages.maintainers
+++ b/pseudo-packages.maintainers
@@ -34,3 +34,4 @@ piuparts.debian.org   Piuparts Developers 
piuparts-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
 sso.debian.org  Debian SSO Team debian-...@lists.debian.org
 tracker.debian.org Debian QA Team debian...@lists.debian.org
 d-i.debian.org Debian Installer debian-b...@lists.debian.org
+summit.debconf.org Debconf Infrastructure Team 
debconf-in...@lists.debian.org

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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:23:17 -0800
From: Don Armstrong d...@debian.org
Subject: Re: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
To: sub...@bugs.debian.org

Package: bugs.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
Control: tag -1 moreinfo
Control: submitter -1 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com
Control: retitle -1 add summit.debconf.org psuedo-package

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 The DebConf Infrastructure team requests a new pseudo-package,
 summit.debconf.org, for use in tracking bugs, feature requests and so
 forth for DebConf's instance of the Summit conference management
 system.

In order to create the psuedopackage, I need the

1) name of the psuedopackage

Presumably, that's summit.debconf.org in this case.

2) a short description of what the pseudopackage will be used for
(suitable for inclusion in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages)

3) The e-mail address of the maintainer of the psuedopackage who will
receive mail related to that mailing list

I also like to see an example existing bugs (or e-mails which would have
been/will be turned into bugs) which will be reassigned to this
pseudopackage once it is created. This is primarily so that I know that
the pseudopackage will be used.

Finally, I must note that the name of the psuedopackage will never be
available for a Debian package in the archive. [Given the name chosen,
that seems fine.]

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[Debconf-team] Bug#778247: Please create debconf-in...@list.debian.org

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-Cc: debconf-team@lists.debconf.org


Name: debconf-in...@lists.debian.org

Rationale: The DebConf infrastructure team has requested a new
pseudo-package in the BTS for tracking issues related to
summit.debconf.org, our conference management system. See bug #776982.
As discussed there this list will serve as the maintainer address
required to receive BTS mail.

It will also be useful for team discussions that aren't appropriate for
the debconf-team or debconf-video lists.

Short Description: DebConf Infrastructure team.

Long Description: DebConf Infrastructure team discussions and bug report
handling.

Category: DebConf

Subscription Policy: Open

Post Policy: Open

Web Archive: Yes


Thank you,
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Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-Cc: debconf-t...@lists.debconf.org


Name: debconf-in...@lists.debian.org

Rationale: The DebConf infrastructure team has requested a new
pseudo-package in the BTS for tracking issues related to
summit.debconf.org, our conference management system. See bug #776982.
As discussed there this list will serve as the maintainer address
required to receive BTS mail.

It will also be useful for team discussions that aren't appropriate for
the debconf-team or debconf-video lists.

Short Description: DebConf Infrastructure team.

Long Description: DebConf Infrastructure team discussions and bug report
handling.

Category: DebConf

Subscription Policy: Open

Post Policy: Open

Web Archive: Yes


Thank you,
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Bug#776982: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 12:03:29PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com writes:
  On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 11:01:09AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.org 
  wrote:
   I think the best would be to create a new list for this on
   lists.debian.org. We want to move all the debconf lists to the Debian
   list infrastructure anyway.
  Yes.
   I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.
  Not a slightly broader debconf-infra@l.d.o ?
 
 That sounds even better.
 
 Gaudenz

Are we settled on debconf-in...@lists.debian.org ?

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Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

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On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 03:36:33AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com wrote:
 
  Are we settled on debconf-in...@lists.debian.org ?
 
 Maybe wait over the weekend; if there's no opposition then that's the name.

Will do. Thanks. -edrz
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[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 03:36:33AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com wrote:
 
  Are we settled on debconf-in...@lists.debian.org ?
 
 Maybe wait over the weekend; if there's no opposition then that's the name.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 12:03:29PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com writes:
  On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 11:01:09AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.org 
  wrote:
   I think the best would be to create a new list for this on
   lists.debian.org. We want to move all the debconf lists to the Debian
   list infrastructure anyway.
  Yes.
   I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.
  Not a slightly broader debconf-infra@l.d.o ?
 
 That sounds even better.
 
 Gaudenz

Are we settled on debconf-in...@lists.debian.org ?

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Re: [Debconf-team] Food [Re: Registration questions]

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 07:27:30PM +0100, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
 Hi everybody
 El 05/02/15 a las 17:25, Daniel Kahn Gillmor escribió:
 
 I would change the perspective: tell cooks the things they can add to
 the menu.
 What about this proposal?
 
 Diet:
   - Not applicable
   - Vegan (strict vegetarian)
   - Lacto-Ovo Vegetarian (dairy and eggs OK)  default 
   - Omnivore (dairy, eggs, meat or fish OK)
   - Other (contact registrat...@debconf.org ASAP)
 
 If we think that people should be able to ask for meat/fish in every
 meal (my take is no, but you know better DebConf demographics), I
 would add an option after Omnivore:
 
   - Carnivore (Omnivore, with meat or fish in every meal)

votes++

I'm an omnivore who eats a lot of vegetables with every meal and prefers
no meat several days most weeks. I enjoy cooking with and eating tofu
several days most weeks.

I would find this framing of the options quite acceptable and actually
nice. Often meal options for the traditional default end up with
primarily meat + starch with vegetables as an after thought.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 11:01:09AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.org wrote:
  I think the best would be to create a new list for this on
  lists.debian.org. We want to move all the debconf lists to the Debian
  list infrastructure anyway.
 Yes.
 
  I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.

Not a slightly broader debconf-infra@l.d.o ?
 
 Fine by me.
 
 I would prefer not to need a new ML, but it seems as if we need one, so...

Who should make the request? I'll do it if you want and the listmasters
accept new list requests from mere users.

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Bug#776982: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 11:01:09AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.org wrote:
  I think the best would be to create a new list for this on
  lists.debian.org. We want to move all the debconf lists to the Debian
  list infrastructure anyway.
 Yes.
 
  I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.

Not a slightly broader debconf-infra@l.d.o ?
 
 Fine by me.
 
 I would prefer not to need a new ML, but it seems as if we need one, so...

Who should make the request? I'll do it if you want and the listmasters
accept new list requests from mere users.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 07:49:32PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com wrote:
   I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.
 
  Not a slightly broader debconf-infra@l.d.o ?
 
 I pondered that as well. But what if bursaries, front desk, etc want
 to talk about summit specifically?

Then that's on -team? or those teams perhaps need a designated
infra-liason? I don't know.

 OTOH, what if we use something else
 in a few years?

You mean if the current re-org structure doesn't pan out? Then what
about debconf-devel@ ? Surely DebConf will never evolve beyond having
development needs.

  Who should make the request? I'll do it if you want and the listmasters
  accept new list requests from mere users.
 
 It probably makes most sense if tumbleweed and/or me make the request.
 Or you do it and point to here once we know what we want/need. Either
 way is fine.

Ok. You seem to have a lot on your plate, and are some kind of manager
or something, so I'll take it on.

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Bug#776982: [Debconf-team] Bug#776982: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 07:49:32PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com wrote:
   I suggest debconf-sum...@lists.debian.org.
 
  Not a slightly broader debconf-infra@l.d.o ?
 
 I pondered that as well. But what if bursaries, front desk, etc want
 to talk about summit specifically?

Then that's on -team? or those teams perhaps need a designated
infra-liason? I don't know.

 OTOH, what if we use something else
 in a few years?

You mean if the current re-org structure doesn't pan out? Then what
about debconf-devel@ ? Surely DebConf will never evolve beyond having
development needs.

  Who should make the request? I'll do it if you want and the listmasters
  accept new list requests from mere users.
 
 It probably makes most sense if tumbleweed and/or me make the request.
 Or you do it and point to here once we know what we want/need. Either
 way is fine.

Ok. You seem to have a lot on your plate, and are some kind of manager
or something, so I'll take it on.

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Re: [Debconf-team] proposal for registration and info page

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 12:43:57AM +0100, Laura Arjona Reina wrote:
 Hi everybody
 I've been looking at past DebConf websites.
 Even if all of you agree with this, I don't know how to make the
 corresponding changes for creating the menus in the main page etc. So
 another person should do that, I think.

See the div id=main-menu in page.tt

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[Debconf-team] Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Dear BTS admins,

The DebConf Infrastructure team requests a new pseudo-package,
summit.debconf.org, for use in tracking bugs, feature requests and so
forth for DebConf's instance of the Summit conference management system.

See the thread starting here:
http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20150121.181821.9a8d1969.en.html
for discussion and support of this request.

Thank you for your time and efforts,
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Re: [Debconf-team] Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 06:28:37PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 Thanks!
 
 Richard
 
 Sent by mobile; excuse my brevity.

So it is now a bug against bugs.debian.org with a request for more info.
See Don's response below. I'll follow up in #776982. I think I can
provide the requested info. But, of course, suggestions from the team
will help. 

1) pseudo-package name: summit.debconf.org

2) description: Issues regarding the summit.debconf.org software and
service

3) maintainer address: debconf-team@lists.debconf.org ?

  I would not be comfortable with this being just me or any other single
  person.

Bug examples: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#TODO and #DONE
  TODOs in summit.git (and maybe my local TODO)

  Those are probably enough, but I can also dig up some relevant
  mailinglist threads from this year and last.

-edrz


From debb...@buxtehude.debian.org Tue Feb  3 14:27:52 2015
Subject: Bug#776982: Request for summit.debconf.org pseudo-package
Reply-To: ow...@bugs.debian.org, 776...@bugs.debian.org
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 11:23:17 -0800
From: Don Armstrong d...@debian.org
To: sub...@bugs.debian.org

Package: bugs.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
Control: tag -1 moreinfo
Control: submitter -1 Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com
Control: retitle -1 add summit.debconf.org psuedo-package

On Tue, 03 Feb 2015, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 The DebConf Infrastructure team requests a new pseudo-package,
 summit.debconf.org, for use in tracking bugs, feature requests and so
 forth for DebConf's instance of the Summit conference management
 system.

In order to create the psuedopackage, I need the

1) name of the psuedopackage

Presumably, that's summit.debconf.org in this case.

2) a short description of what the pseudopackage will be used for
(suitable for inclusion in https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages)

3) The e-mail address of the maintainer of the psuedopackage who will
receive mail related to that mailing list

I also like to see an example existing bugs (or e-mails which would have
been/will be turned into bugs) which will be reassigned to this
pseudopackage once it is created. This is primarily so that I know that
the pseudopackage will be used.

Finally, I must note that the name of the psuedopackage will never be
available for a Debian package in the archive. [Given the name chosen,
that seems fine.]

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Re: [Debconf-team] Using the BTS as a summit issue tracker

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 07:56:31PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com [2015-01-21 19:18 +0100]:
 
 Honestly, I don't think we need a team discussion. This should be
 the infrastructure team's decision just like upstream choses the
 BTS/issue tracker for their software.

I certainly don't disagree. But, -infra don't have our own mailing list
and it was suggested to me (by bremner, i think?) that I point to some
public evidence of team consensus when sending the request to the BTS
admins.

I wasn't sure the request would be accepted coming from me as a non-DD
who's not really known in Debian outside of debconf-team. 

 That said, I think the proposal is sane and would rather see it done
 sooner than later, unless of course there are good arguments against
 it.

Thanks for weighing in.

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[Debconf-team] Using the BTS as a summit issue tracker

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

I propose we use a psuedo-package in the BTS for summit isues. The BTS
already exists and is a central piece of Debian culture, so it seems to
me it would be a good fit.

I find it confusing and difficult to use the wiki[0] to track bugs and
development requests for summit. Determining who made a particular
request in order to contact them for more information is cumbersome, at
best. It's also non-optimal for tracking discussion of a given issue.
For development requests, it's not clear if something is just a random
idea or annoyance someone had in a particular moment or something that a
given subteam has discussed, reached consensus about and signed off on.
For these reasons and more, I think we need a real ticketing system for
Summit. 

Martin attempted to start a discussion[1] about a general solution for
all of DebConf to replace rt. But, it didn't progress, yet. If there are
suggestions for a general solution, please respond to that thread.

I've discussed the BTS idea with a number of people on irc several
times. I don't recall opposition and there were a number of people
positive about the idea. I don't recall anyone wanting to try to use rt
for this. I do recall several people definitely _not_ wanting to use the
alioth tracker. Probably not everyone who might care was present at
those times and my memory is definitely fallible. So, please, discuss.

I propose to wait 1 week for discussion. If there is consensus that this
is a good idea I'll take the action item to request the psuedo-package
from the BTS admins, pointing to this thread as rationale and evidence
of team support. If there is no response or significant disagreement, I
suggest it be added to the 2015-02-02 meeting agenda.

Thanks for reading,
edrz

[0] https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#TODO
[1] http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20141216.211326.9c02fa68.en.html
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Re: [Debconf-team] Using the BTS as a summit issue tracker

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 08:27:23PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com 
 wrote:
  I propose we use a psuedo-package in the BTS for summit isues. The BTS
  already exists and is a central piece of Debian culture, so it seems to
  me it would be a good fit.
 
 I would prefer if we had an actual package, but a pseudo one will do
 fine for now.

Oh. right. I had asked about that last year. Vorlon, i think it was,
said something like packaging web aps is fraught with peril. So I
let it go then. What packaging skills I had are very rusty, so I'm not
sure I know what he meant. But, in principle, I agree if it can be done
that it would be worthwhile to have summit and all the dependencies
packaged in debian. I would even like to work on that. But, probably not
right now given our more pressing needs. It's something to file a bug
about, perhaps. ;)

  Martin attempted to start a discussion[1] about a general solution for
  all of DebConf to replace rt. But, it didn't progress, yet. If there are
  suggestions for a general solution, please respond to that thread.
 
 I still don't think that scales, especially for sponsorship.

He mentioned that, particularly for sponsorship, some things need to be
kept confidential. I'm only talking about summit right now.
 
  I propose to wait 1 week for discussion. If there is consensus that this
  is a good idea I'll take the action item to request the psuedo-package
  from the BTS admins, pointing to this thread as rationale and evidence
  of team support. If there is no response or significant disagreement, I
  suggest it be added to the 2015-02-02 meeting agenda.
 
 With my infra team lead hat on, I would say we don't even need to wait
 a full week. As you say, this should not be very controversial and I
 would want to move sooner rather than later.
 
 Thanks for picking this up again,
 Richard

Certainly. I'm only sorry I didn't get to it sooner. Thanks for your
response.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 09:56:04PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 21:31 +0100]:
   What about the list of presenters/organisers?
  
  Currently the submitter of the event is the drafter(owner) of the event,
  we need to make sure if summit can handle multiple owners for one talk,
  a field for this can be included, but also there are not too much  events
  with multiple owners, then if it is supported we can also add the rest
  of the owners from the admin interface?

During DC14 we modified summit so that it displays  the list of people
in required_attendees as Speakers: . This automatically includes the
drafter. Others can be declared required via the admin. (There might
also be one or more forms outside the admin, but I'm not immediately
remembering which.)

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 09:56:04PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 21:31 +0100]:
   What about the list of presenters/organisers?
  
  Currently the submitter of the event is the drafter(owner) of the event,
  we need to make sure if summit can handle multiple owners for one talk,
  a field for this can be included, but also there are not too much  events
  with multiple owners, then if it is supported we can also add the rest
  of the owners from the admin interface?
 
 Right, this should be a 1:∞ relation and with Django it should not
 be hard to hack this up quickly for the event owner to control
 themselves.

That would seem to require presenting the owner with the list of
attendees from which to choose. Since it's been requested that we remove
that field from the propose_event form, doesn't it follow that we ought
not expose it elsewhere?

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Re: [Debconf-team] Using the BTS as a summit issue tracker

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Hi Brian,

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 02:57:13PM -0500, Brian Gupta wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:31 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org wrote:
  also sprach Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com [2015-01-21 
  20:27 +0100]:
   I propose we use a psuedo-package in the BTS for summit isues. The BTS
   already exists and is a central piece of Debian culture, so it seems to
   me it would be a good fit.
  I would prefer if we had an actual package, but a pseudo one will do
  fine for now.
  While it would be good to have summit in Debian, of course, you
  would also want to have a place to track DebConf-specific issues.
 
 Just to be clear, that if we are talking about using BTS to track
 feature requests and changes to Summit, I see no major issues,
 and would defer to those working on Summit. If we are looking
 beyond that, (e.g. sponsorship lead tracking),  BTS would likely
 be suboptimal.

Right. I'm only talking here about tracking issues regarding summit
development.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:44:38PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 19:50 +0100]:
...
  4) Type:
  + Plenary
  + Talk (New requested type, s/Presentation/Talk/)
 Just out of curiosity: why?
  + BoF
  + Social (New requested type)
  + Special event.
  + Ad-Hoc (New requested type)
 Will you disable ad-hoc submissions until the conference?

To my thinking, ad-hoc is not an attribute of an event, but of the
combination of time slot and room into which it might be scheduled. In
summit-speak, I think we should make a new Ad-hoc type of a Slot. It is
probably possible to make it so that such slot/room combinations aren't
available for scheduling until we want them to be. i.e. 24 hours in
advance, or whatever time limit content team decides.

Then within those slots any appropriate type (talk, BoF, social,
discussion, what-have-you) of Ad-Hoc events could be scheduled.

Being Ad-Hoc is about when an event's creator(s) gets to claim space and
time for it. Not about what said event is going to do with that
spacetime.
 
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Re: [Debconf-team] DC15 - Event submission form

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 08:44:38PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach René Mayorga rmayo...@debian.org.sv [2015-01-20 19:50 +0100]:
  1) Title
...
  7) Notes to Content team (New requested type)
 
 What about the list of presenters/organisers?

Do you mean the list that an event proposer/creator gets to choose from
to select Participants?

I recall some were concerned about this exposing the list of attendees.
If we disable it in the propose_event form, I guess events with multiple
speakers/organizers/whatever would require intervention by someone with
special summit perms.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf ticketing system

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:13:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
 Folks,
 
 we've had rt.debconf.org for years, but it's hardly used and just
 accumulates spam.
 
 Rather than cleaning it up and hoping that this will make the
 difference, I propose we use the time instead to implement
 a better-suited system, possibly using Django (which, if integrated
 with Summit would make it easy for our attendees to file bugs). But
 no worries, a mail interface will hopefully be a requirement.
 
 Does anyone have experience with Django+mail-based ticketing systems
 and could make a suggestion?

What about using a Debian Conference psuedo package in the BTS?

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] remote participation in DebConf

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 09:29:46AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com writes:
  Could the video volunteer peek into a dedicated question channel during the
  qa part?
 
 This video volunteer couldn't -- dyslexia means that if I'm IRCing then
 I'm not doing anything else (so not directing the video or mixing the
 sound or whatever my job was supposed to be as a video volunteer).
 
 I've seen people that think they can multi-task doing a pretty mediocre
 job when their attention's elsewhere, and any one of the video jobs can
 require all of one's attention at times, particularly in the QA sections.
 
 This sounds like a job for a new volunteer, unless people think that
 i.e. the talk-meister should have enough spare time at that point in a
 talk, but then it needs to be made very clear to the volunteers that that
 is part of the role.

A dedicated irc proxy volunteer is probably what would be wanted. It is
not really a video team task. The talkmeister ought to be watching the
clock and passing the microphone, not looking at irc. (incidentally,
there's no really strong reason the talkmeister has to be a video team
person, either.)

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Re: [Debconf-team] Report from the talks team

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:13:30AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
 also sprach Ana Guerrero Lopez a...@debian.org [2014-09-16 22:19 +0200]:
 For bursaries, we had a simple interface allowing us to vote on each
 participant with between -3 and +3 points. This would be trivial to
 do for events too, I guess.
 
 The actual scheduling would be best done with drag-n-drop, I feel,
 but someone will need to implement this on top of Summit. No idea
 how hard this is going to be, but it doesn't sound easy.

Summit has a javascript drag-n-drop thing[0].
/summit/date/display?edit is available to those with scheduler
permissions. It is a one-day-at-a-time scheduling interface. I played
with it briefly and found it buggy and glitchy in my local summit
instance. I don't know if anyone tried it on the live site. If that kind
of thing is wanted, it already exists. Might just need some small(?)
tweaking.

Personally, I would find it cumbersome even if it can be made to work
properly. But, I am not a scheduler and generally avoid mice as much as
I can, so maybe it would be fine for those doing this work.

-edrz

[0] In debconf-data/summit.git on alioth:
view:   summit/schedule/views.py_process_date_view()
json:   summit/schedule/render.pyjs_data()
template:   summit/schedule/templates/schedule/schedule.html
javascript: summit/media/schedule/schedule.js 
summit/media/ajax.js
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Re: [Debconf-video] Videos from Saturday and Sunday

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 01:48:24PM -0400, Caitlin Matos wrote:
 Hello,

 None of the videos from Saturday Aug 30 and Sunday Aug 31 are available  
 anywhere. Will these be up in the near future?

aiui, more .webm's are ready, but await a means of pushing (or pulling)
them to the public archive. They should be available RSN.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Question about a video from DebConf Portland 2014

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:16:18PM -0600, Scott Dowdle wrote:
 Greetings,
 
 I've asked this in the #debian channel on the Freenode IRC network but
 so far I haven't gotten an answer so I thought I'd try this email
 address.

Debian and Debconf channels are mostly on oftc, not freenode. The
#debconf-video Carl pointed you to is there.

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[Debconf-team] Separating Speakers and hiding Participants/Attendees in Summit

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Regarding:

commit to master 7429fb7 debconf-data/summit summit/ (5 files in 2 dirs)
Separate and pluralize speakers, hide participants list from
non-organizers

There are some views that list Participants (sometime as Attendees) that
I don't think we should change, or am uncertain about changing.

These two I'm pretty sure about:

*attendees.html 
only accessible by drafter  organizer (or it looks like only they
get the link from meeting.html)
*review.html
only available to organizers

These three I request guidance on:

*virtual_meeting.html:
Will debconf ever be virtual?
*by_participant.html:
attendee's own schedule, aka My Schedule. Should an attendee be
able to see who else wants to attend meetings he/she intends to attend?
*mine.html: 
the meeting creator should be able to see who wants to
attend their event, shouldn't they?

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Summit discussion on Thursday, 11:00am (18:00 UTC)

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Thanks for the input! All good points that need to be addressed, just
a current comment below on some work in progress.

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 07:08:25AM -0700, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote:
  And IMHO we disclose too much information in schedule.
 In my opinion the too much information issue was in leaking the
 registered attendee list to people loading the event registration
 page. Also the default for attendees should be to be able to mark
 their attendance but choose who sees it (admins, speakers, attendees
 or general public), with admins (or maybe speakers) being the default.

I am in the process of adjusting things to address this. (at least
partially)

 The presented information was confusing in some instances; I had to
 inform people that bold means it is the speaker or that you can login
 to confirm that. I think it would be better to define a list of people
 and their relationship with the event (speaker, facilitator, panel
 member, other required, video team, likely to attend, might attend,
 etc) and present those roles on the event page.

Clearly separating the speaker(s) and hiding the attendees from
non-organizers is what I am currently working on. With any luck I'll
have that done tomorrow. 

It'll be an improvement, but there will surely be more concerns to
discuss and address over time.

For now, though, Daytrip! \o/

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[Debconf-discuss] shirt and wrist wrap left at Rooster Rock

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

I had a pleasant nap on a picnic table overlooking the water at Rooster
Rock State Park (where we ate lunch). Unfortunately I almost missed my
bus and in my haste to gather my stuff ended up leaving a brown t-shirt
and a wrist wrap[0] drying out on a tree stump nearby. The stump was
roughly between the restrooms and the bluff overlooking the water. If
anyone happened to find them and bring them back, please let me know.

Thanks.

-edrz

[0] http://harbingerfitness.com/product/140/
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Summit discussion on Thursday, 11:00am (18:00 UTC)

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 03:26:35PM -0700, martin f krafft wrote:
 Hello,
 
 as you may know, DC14 uses a new conference management system
 (summit) and we are rather happy with it. But there are obviously
 aspects that need improvement.
 
 We will meet on Thursday at 11 in room 338 to discuss the future of
 Summit and DebConf.
 
 Whether you already know Django or not, if you are interested in
 helping out, we would love to see you there.
 
 Here are some of the issues we need to work on:
 
 https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit#TODO

And also the session's summit page:
https://summit.debconf.org/debconf14/meeting/143/summit-summit/

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Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 03:02:47AM -0700, Holger Levsen wrote:
 On Mittwoch, 20. August 2014, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
  It isn't mentioned in Carl's mail of the setup schedule, but previously
  none of the talk rooms were reserved on Thursday and only the ballroom
  was reserved on Friday and that for only 4 hours in the evening.
 
 I wonder whether anybody expected to have video at all then ;-P

There have clearly been communication problems all around throughout the
dc14 cycle.

I'm not pointing any fingers or laying any blame. Doing so would not be
be helpful in any way that I can see. Nor do I mean to stoke the flames
of any anger or resentment or other negative stuff.

I only hoped to point out that videoteam and localteam managed to
workout something better wrt the setup schedule than what was going to
be available as of a week ago.

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Re: [Debconf-video] dc14 video setup and training schedule

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 06:23:55PM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 13:57 -0500, Carl Karsten wrote:
  For anyone that was planning on helping setup on Thursday, there won't
  be much to do.  for 100 reasons I pushed the equipment delivery to
  Friday.  
 We don't need 100 reasons, one would be enough.
 On the opposite there were some good reasons to deliver the equipments
 earlier: 
 * Some people planned to arrive ahead to setup, test and adjust
   the setup.

It isn't mentioned in Carl's mail of the setup schedule, but previously
none of the talk rooms were reserved on Thursday and only the ballroom
was reserved on Friday and that for only 4 hours in the evening.

This setup schedule is actually an improvement worked out with the
localteam and the building management. 

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] tai chi

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 04:48:55PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
 I am planning my usual 6am tai chi practice for Debconf.  If you know Yang
 Style short form[*] and would like to join me, please drop me an email.  I
 don't yet know where I'll be, but I'll spend a little time on Google maps
 scoping out some nice locations. :)
 
 Unfortunately, it's not easy to teach much to beginners in the short amount of
 time available, so I can't offer that for the morning, but I'd be happy to
 talk about it and show you a few things at other times of the day.  However,
 if you even know parts of the form, it's always fun to have company.
 
 Cheers,
 -Barry
 
 [*] as originally brought to the west by Cheng Man-ch'ing
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheng_Man-ch%27ing.  We can do some push hands,
 sword form, 18 Chinese Therapies, and breathing meditation if you know those 
 too.

I'm a long time out of practice, but was hoping someone might be doing
some of this. I'll try to join you.

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[Debconf-team] (no subject)

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debconf-vi...@lists.debconf.org
Bcc: 
Subject: available switches? (was Re: [Debconf-team] confirmation of room
changes; details on talk room capacities)
Reply-To: 
In-Reply-To: 20140807145739.gp5...@outflux.net

On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:57:39AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 07:37:35PM -0400, Carl Karsten wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Kees Cook k...@debian.org wrote:
   On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 02:19:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
  Not a show stopper regarding video,
  
  each room needs 2mb to the Net for the live stream
  each room needs 30mb from talk room to NOC file server to keep the raw
  files nice and save and available, but a simple usb2 drive can sneaker-net
  the data around if needed.
 
 Okay, perfect. So we have some flexibility, even if sub-optimal, here.

Related to this, I was asked to find out how many and what kinds of
switches are available for videoteam use.

Also, videoteam will need a file server located in the NOC for storing
the video files. Videoteam will need 2TB of RAID and a spare disk for
backups. afaik, there is not currently a machine or drives available for
this. Is there any chance one can be borrowed or put together locally?

Installation and configuration of such a machine would be handled by
videoteam. Assembly too, if need be.

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[Debconf-team] available switches? (was Re: confirmation of room changes; details on talk room capacities)

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:57:39AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 07:37:35PM -0400, Carl Karsten wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Kees Cook k...@debian.org wrote:
   On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 02:19:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
  Not a show stopper regarding video,
  
  each room needs 2mb to the Net for the live stream
  each room needs 30mb from talk room to NOC file server to keep the raw
  files nice and save and available, but a simple usb2 drive can sneaker-net
  the data around if needed.
 
 Okay, perfect. So we have some flexibility, even if sub-optimal, here.

Related to this, I was asked to find out how many and what kinds of
switches are available for videoteam use.

Also, videoteam will need a file server located in the NOC for storing
the video files. Videoteam will need 2TB of RAID and a spare disk for
backups. afaik, there is not currently a machine or drives available for
this. Is there any chance one can be borrowed or put together locally?

Installation and configuration of such a machine would be handled by
videoteam. Assembly too, if need be.

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[Debconf-team] Request for Videoteam Budget increase

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

The DebConf Videoteam requests a budget increase for DebConf 14.

Shipping cost Chicago - Portland of Carl Karsten's gear:$2000
Rental of screens, projectors and PA speakers for 3 rooms: $900
Purchase of hdmi to vga converters for presenters' laptops:$200
Buffer for miscellaneous expenses: 
(duct tape, batteries, unexpected/broken stuff, etc)   $500
  -
   Total: $3600

Except for the rental items noted above, Carl's gear includes all the
cameras, tripods, audio mixers, microphones, twinpacts, laptops, cables
and other gear required for Videoteam to cover 3 rooms.

-Eric Rzewnicki, on behalf of DebConf Videoteam
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Re: [Debconf-team] Request for Videoteam Budget increase

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 01:09:22PM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 The DebConf Videoteam requests a budget increase for DebConf 14.
 
 Shipping cost Chicago - Portland of Carl Karsten's gear:$2000
 Rental of screens, projectors and PA speakers for 3 rooms: $900
 Purchase of hdmi to vga converters for presenters' laptops:$200
 Buffer for miscellaneous expenses: 
 (duct tape, batteries, unexpected/broken stuff, etc)   $500
   -
Total: $3600
 
 Except for the rental items noted above, Carl's gear includes all the
 cameras, tripods, audio mixers, microphones, twinpacts, laptops, cables
 and other gear required for Videoteam to cover 3 rooms.
 
 -Eric Rzewnicki, on behalf of DebConf Videoteam

I had the wrong domain for debconf-chairs in my first mail. I've resent
the mail to debconf-cha...@debian.org

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[Debconf-video] Request for Videoteam Budget increase

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

The DebConf Videoteam requests a budget increase for DebConf 14.

Shipping cost Chicago - Portland of Carl Karsten's gear:$2000
Rental of screens, projectors and PA speakers for 3 rooms: $900
Purchase of hdmi to vga converters for presenters' laptops:$200
Buffer for miscellaneous expenses: 
(duct tape, batteries, unexpected/broken stuff, etc)   $500
  -
   Total: $3600

Except for the rental items noted above, Carl's gear includes all the
cameras, tripods, audio mixers, microphones, twinpacts, laptops, cables
and other gear required for Videoteam to cover 3 rooms.

-Eric Rzewnicki, on behalf of DebConf Videoteam
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Re: [Debconf-video] [Debconf-team] Request for Videoteam Budget increase

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 01:09:22PM -0400, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
 The DebConf Videoteam requests a budget increase for DebConf 14.
 
 Shipping cost Chicago - Portland of Carl Karsten's gear:$2000
 Rental of screens, projectors and PA speakers for 3 rooms: $900
 Purchase of hdmi to vga converters for presenters' laptops:$200
 Buffer for miscellaneous expenses: 
 (duct tape, batteries, unexpected/broken stuff, etc)   $500
   -
Total: $3600
 
 Except for the rental items noted above, Carl's gear includes all the
 cameras, tripods, audio mixers, microphones, twinpacts, laptops, cables
 and other gear required for Videoteam to cover 3 rooms.
 
 -Eric Rzewnicki, on behalf of DebConf Videoteam

I had the wrong domain for debconf-chairs in my first mail. I've resent
the mail to debconf-cha...@debian.org

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Re: [Debconf-team] Website to watch streaming of the DebConf14

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 08:56:36PM -0400, Carl Karsten wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki e...@zhevny.com
 wrote:
  It's probably worth mentioning that Summit, which we're using this year,
 has
  built-in support for linking IRC channels and video in-line in the page
 for
  each session.
 
 To be clear, do you mean the icecast_url field in summit.schedule.Room ?

My question was to Steve wrt Summit ... has built-in support ...
in-line. All I've seen so far in Summit is a field to put a URL
in. 

Nonetheless, your answer is interesting.

 No.
 
 It is yet another code base.  It is both streaming server and django website 
 to
 build a central page of streams that shows images taken from each  stream 
 every
 5 seconds.  Plus a bunch of other features like js irc chat on the same page. 
 
  You can  find the source in https://github.com/timvideos.
 
 http://timvideos.us/  is an instance of it.  Currently there is no event
 streaming, and because it dynamicaly builds the main page based on the talk
 schedule, it doesn't look like much.
 
 If someone wants to make it better let me know and I'll document out how to
 bring up a dev instance with dummy streams.
 
 
 
 from what I've found so far that just displays a link to some external
 place to view the live stream. Valessio is talking about making a nice
 looking page that we could link to from there. It will make it easy for
 viewers to watch directly in their browsers and provide other nice
 stuff. I haven't yet found that kind of functionality in summit. If you
 have, please point me at it.
 
  If there are tools other than those currently in place which
  you would like us to use, perhaps you can do that integration in Summit,
 so
  we don't accidentally end up with multiple pages with different 
 IRC/video
  views?
 
    https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit
 
 I'm getting decently comfortable with the summit code. So, I can likely
 help if we decide to integrate Valessio's work directly into summit.
 Just pointing to his creation from the schedule is probably sufficient,
 though, and less work.
 
 -edrz

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Re: [Debconf-team] Website to watch streaming of the DebConf14

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

(Cc:ing debconf-video)

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 08:59:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:25:36PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
   I'm thinking of using similar tools (cortado[4], html+css, html5
   tagvideo) similar code of the previous editions, however, in place
   of IRC webchat.oftc, wanting to try the scrollback[5], being a free
   tool which integrates with social networking and IRC.
   Also is open to other suggestions and collaborations. Bring the
   contents of transmission DebConf14 a larger number of developers and
   contributors.
  Could you take a look at http://timvideos.us/ ? We're running video for
  a conference right now, so you can see real things going on. You can
  find the source in https://github.com/timvideos. You may want to hack
  this one and have it integrated to other tools of your preference.
  Anyway, you're also free to use other stuff as you did great for past
  DCs. You can talk to me directly if you need quick responses in pt_BR,
  I'm becoming quite involved with video team from next days so I may be
  useful on this.
 It's probably worth mentioning that Summit, which we're using this year, has
 built-in support for linking IRC channels and video in-line in the page for
 each session. 

To be clear, do you mean the icecast_url field in summit.schedule.Room ?
from what I've found so far that just displays a link to some external
place to view the live stream. Valessio is talking about making a nice
looking page that we could link to from there. It will make it easy for
viewers to watch directly in their browsers and provide other nice
stuff. I haven't yet found that kind of functionality in summit. If you
have, please point me at it.

 If there are tools other than those currently in place which
 you would like us to use, perhaps you can do that integration in Summit, so
 we don't accidentally end up with multiple pages with different IRC/video
 views?
 
   https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit

I'm getting decently comfortable with the summit code. So, I can likely
help if we decide to integrate Valessio's work directly into summit.
Just pointing to his creation from the schedule is probably sufficient,
though, and less work.

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Re: [Debconf-video] [Debconf-team] Website to watch streaming of the DebConf14

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

(Cc:ing debconf-video)

On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 08:59:07PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:25:36PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
   I'm thinking of using similar tools (cortado[4], html+css, html5
   tagvideo) similar code of the previous editions, however, in place
   of IRC webchat.oftc, wanting to try the scrollback[5], being a free
   tool which integrates with social networking and IRC.
   Also is open to other suggestions and collaborations. Bring the
   contents of transmission DebConf14 a larger number of developers and
   contributors.
  Could you take a look at http://timvideos.us/ ? We're running video for
  a conference right now, so you can see real things going on. You can
  find the source in https://github.com/timvideos. You may want to hack
  this one and have it integrated to other tools of your preference.
  Anyway, you're also free to use other stuff as you did great for past
  DCs. You can talk to me directly if you need quick responses in pt_BR,
  I'm becoming quite involved with video team from next days so I may be
  useful on this.
 It's probably worth mentioning that Summit, which we're using this year, has
 built-in support for linking IRC channels and video in-line in the page for
 each session. 

To be clear, do you mean the icecast_url field in summit.schedule.Room ?
from what I've found so far that just displays a link to some external
place to view the live stream. Valessio is talking about making a nice
looking page that we could link to from there. It will make it easy for
viewers to watch directly in their browsers and provide other nice
stuff. I haven't yet found that kind of functionality in summit. If you
have, please point me at it.

 If there are tools other than those currently in place which
 you would like us to use, perhaps you can do that integration in Summit, so
 we don't accidentally end up with multiple pages with different IRC/video
 views?
 
   https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Summit

I'm getting decently comfortable with the summit code. So, I can likely
help if we decide to integrate Valessio's work directly into summit.
Just pointing to his creation from the schedule is probably sufficient,
though, and less work.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Bursaries Team: update

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 03:46:54AM -0700, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) 
wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA512
 
 Hello team,
 
 A quick update on where we are and next steps.
 
 We are mostly done with the ranking/scoring, but we are a little
 bit behind the schedule.  This Monday (2014-05-26) I will finish
 the review of our scores and the Bursaries will discuss the final
 details to try to get a consensus in terms of approvals and
 rejections, and hopefully in 2-3 days I should be able to start
 notifying people (with good or bad news).
 
 I will keep -team up-to-date on our next steps and timeline.

Any word on this?

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Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-data-commits] r3694 - dc13/website

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 06:06:39PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 On Mittwoch, 29. August 2012, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
  +  h3SUPPORTER/h3
  +   liLogo on our website/li
 
 this is plain wrong, please fix ASAP.
 
  -  pStarting from 5000 USD./p
  +  pStarting from 6000 CHF./p
  -  pStarting from 12500 USD./p
  +  pStarting from 12000 CHF./p
  -  pStarting from USD 25000./p
  +  pStarting from CHF 25000./p
 
 is that what we agreed on? afaik we still havent agreed on anything, so...
 
  
 pIn plain, short english:
 ul
  +   lisupporter = logo on website/li
 
 wrong as well, see above.
 
 thanks for your work, but opposed to the sponsorship brochure, this is 
 public, 
 right?

It's only in svn so far. debconf13.debconf.org doesn't yet exist. So,
it's no more public than the sponsorship brochure which is also still
only in svn, as far as I know.

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Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:55:22AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
 Am 14.08.2012 09:25, schrieb Eric Dantan Rzewnicki:
 - Resources? I can have this on a VM of my personal machine, but I'd
 very much rather if we have a instance where more people can log  in
 and hack on it. A DebConf machine? A Debian machine? Would be good.
 But *please* not a painfully underpowered instance as Cletus (the
 test instance for Penta), it only makes stuff harder.

 A DebConf machine.  We are currently in progress getting a new (big)
 one, as a replacement  for the host where cletus (and more) is on. I
 intend to have one (or more)  VMs up on that where we can play with
 it. As said multiple times in IRC already.

 Timeframe is one, two weeks, by now.

It's been one week now. Do you expect it to be ready next week?

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Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:22:43PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
 Now, what do we need to get this working?
 
 - More people involved. I'm very bad at managing my time and have
   several projects going on, so I know I will fail if I do this
   myself.

Who are the Ruby coders amongst us, besides Gunnar, who are willing and
able to spend time on frab?

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Re: [Debconf-team] And regarding the Penta replacement

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 06:22:43PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
 I forgot to mention this in my last message. I was highlighted while
 my network was acting up on me. I have looked *very little* at this
 point, but it's fundamental for us to work on it soon.

Yes, indeed. If replacing penta is going to happen, it can't wait. 

 So, during the work about it we had at DC12, we had two apparent
 runner-ups: Frab and Zookeepr. If I am to be seen as the driver for
 the change, I'm clearly for Frab, for a linguistic issue: I have
 failed to love Python, and feel quite at ease with Ruby. Frab looks
 as a clean, neat implementation.

I have failed to love Ruby. It has just occurred to me, though, that my
introduction to the language coincided with my attempt to comprehend
Pentabarf. So, I'm willing to try again.

In any case, I haven't seen anything since dc12 from anyone else here
about trying out any of the other options. So, fwiw I'm inclined to say
he who will lead the work shall choose the tools.

 I have not yet done a even test install of it (I'm creating a VM for
 it right now). I expect to have it ready soon, and I'll start looking
 at what we have, what we need. 

Has anyone else done even that much for zookeepr?

 I expect not to be the only one doing this.

That _really_ ought not happen. It wouldn't be good for you and it
wouldn't be good for DebConf. There has to be a team doing this.

 Now, what do we need to get this working?
 
 - More people involved. I'm very bad at managing my time and have
   several projects going on, so I know I will fail if I do this
   myself.

I need something to work on and replacing penta is what currently seems
most likely to keep me motivated to get involved in DebConf work again.

 - Resources? I can have this on a VM of my personal machine, but I'd
   very much rather if we have a instance where more people can log in
   and hack on it. A DebConf machine? A Debian machine? Would be
   good. But *please* not a painfully underpowered instance as Cletus
   (the test instance for Penta), it only makes stuff harder.

Can we get a comparison from admin@ of Cletus' and Skinner's resources?
Also, it would be good to have an idea of skinner's peak resource usage
during critical periods of the DebConf annual cycle.

Depending on what we need, I might possibly be able to contribute a
machine at least for the hacking phase.

 And... Well, we shall later see what else. My proposed roadplan would
 be to set up a system with no data migration from Penta (to start
 fresh),

Starting fresh sounds like a very good idea to me, too. I think that
much of what needs to be preserved from penta can be exported to some
static site(s). I can't imagine we need to try to shoehorn all of
penta's data into frab.

 have everything ready for other DebConfers to register and
 point out the bits that need work. Maybe that would need a RT queue to
 keep track of? 

Some form of issue tracker would seem to me a necessity.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, please review sections Debian and DebConf

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 05:41:00AM +, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 On 24/07/12 02:01, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
  On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20:02PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
  Please review my changes both with regard to content as for english
  language improvements.
  
  I commited some attempts at that.
  It wasn't in the sections included here (so maybe this is off topic),
  but the full file mentions Switzerland as being an onerous destination.
  To my mind's ear onerous connotes worse than I suspect you might
  intend. (?)
 
 onerous is definitely not the word to use
 
 What is the URL for the repo so I can look over the whole file?

https://alioth.debian.org/scm/?group_id=30975

or 

http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/debconf-data/dc13/sponsorship-brochure/

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Re: [Debconf-team] DC13 sponsoring brochure, please review sections Debian and DebConf

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:20:02PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
 
 Please review my changes both with regard to content as for english
 language improvements.

I commited some attempts at that.

 Gaudenz
 \subsection{Debian is Choice}
 Debian is known for its adherence to the Unix and Free Software
 philosophies, and for its coverage -- the current release includes
 over 20,000 software packages for more than 10 computer architectures,

http://www.debian.org/ says over 29,000 at the moment. Roughly how many
will be in wheezy?


It wasn't in the sections included here (so maybe this is off topic),
but the full file mentions Switzerland as being an onerous destination.
To my mind's ear onerous connotes worse than I suspect you might
intend. (?)

Also not included here is a quote about DC6 from roblimo. I wonder if
something more recent would be better, if it exists.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [penta] Evaluating new conference software

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:16:43PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 To follow up on the post-Penta BoF, I've created this wiki page to coordinate
 evaluating replacements:
 
 http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PentaReplacements
 
 Please read, evaluate, email, and help decide! Even better if you can do much
 of this ahead of Thursday's meeting so that we have a base to work from.
 
 Anyone on -discuss who wants to ignore this: I'm encouraging mails about this
 to start their Subject lines with [penta] for easy filtering.
 
 Thanks to everyone!

I heard today about another possibility that might be worth considering:
symposiun. It's a python/django app written for PyCon and DjangoCon.
Apparantly it's been used for some other confs as well. I added it to
the wiki.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [penta] Evaluating new conference software

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 08:16:43PM -0400, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
 Hi,
 
 To follow up on the post-Penta BoF, I've created this wiki page to coordinate
 evaluating replacements:
 
 http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/PentaReplacements
 
 Please read, evaluate, email, and help decide! Even better if you can do much
 of this ahead of Thursday's meeting so that we have a base to work from.
 
 Anyone on -discuss who wants to ignore this: I'm encouraging mails about this
 to start their Subject lines with [penta] for easy filtering.
 
 Thanks to everyone!

Rumour has it that a discussion occured over dinner (or around the
pool?) last night. Could someone post a summary for those who weren't
able to be present?

Thanks,
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Re: specimen and phat

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 04:28:02PM +0100, Jaromír Mikeš wrote:
 Hi Eric,
 
 do you still want  to adopt specimen and phat?
 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555190
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=391134
 
 If not I would like to do it and upload them to pkg-multimedia-maintainers 
 repo
 
 best regards

Go ahead and do it.

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Re: [Debconf-team] on talk duration, the LCA model (45 + 15 mins)

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 08:50:52PM -0500, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 On 01/27/2011 08:41 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
being currently at LCA 2011 for the first time in my life, I'm
  naturally inclined to look for best practices that we might want to
  adopt for DebConf.
  
  Here is one: have talks slot of 45 minutes + 15 minutes of *break*
  before the start of the next talk. I like this model more than the 1
  hour model we have at DebConf for various reasons:
 
 At dc10, we did 55 minutes + 5 minute breaks.  The overwhelming
 consensus was that this was a serious mistake.  Something like what zack
 is proposing (45+15) would have been much better.
 
 In addition to the good arguments zack made, i'll add one more:
 
  * time for the video team to actually take a bit of a break, rather
 than scrambling continuously between talks.

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Re: separate discussion and development lists

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:10:45AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 21:21:02 (CEST), Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
  Is/was DeMuDi a derivative work like debian-multimedia?  If so I agree
  it is easiest to avoid it.
 
  If DeMuDi is/was a Debian-internal initiative similar to debian-edu, or
  those active in it are/was interested in passing it on to Debian, then I
  still find it interesting to consider using that name as I believe it is
  well known also outside Debian.
 
 Quoting wikipedia:
 
 DeMuDi was developed by the AGNULA Project, a European Union funded
 project to improve access to multimedia software, and was also known as
 A/DeMuDi, with A standing for Agnula.  When funding ceased volunteers
 continued to work on the project for a short time, but it has now been
 completely absorbed into the Debian Multimedia Project.
 
 not sure about the last part, but it seems it was some kind of
 derivative work. What about turning it into a Debian-internal
 initiative? The name might be dead, but we can still revive it as a
 Debian Blend, can't we?

Sorry for jumping into the middle of a thread without reading all of
what came before and after. In case it hasn't been said, aiui DeMuDi was
implemented as a CDD. Free was frequently to be read saying something
like think of it as a custom way of installing Debian to get a well
working audio workstation.

After the end of the funded period ended all, or nearly all, of the work
was merged back into Debian proper.

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Re: separate discussion and development lists

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:08:20PM -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
 On 17/08/10 11:58, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
  On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 20:15:40 (CEST), Andreas Tille wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:10:45AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
  I've had a small private followup conversation with Andreas about
  this. He basically came up with the suggestion to turn
  debian-multime...@lists.debian.org from a *development* oriented mailing
  list to a *user* focused list. This way users can share their thoughts,
  concerns and kudos.
 I thought this was the idea the whole time?
  While I don't think that this will significantly lower the amount of
  traffic (well, we actually widen the set of topics), I still think that
  it will be benefitial for pkg-multimedia, because:
  
   - we get more contact with our actual users
   - we learn what's pressing and bugging them
   - we hopefully get more potential and real contributors, ideally even
 new developers
  
  WDYT?
 
 Every time I think about it, I like it more. I think we should do that.
 And announce it to the world via d-d-a.

I also think this is a good idea.

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Re: separate discussion and development lists

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 06:30:11PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 05:58:43PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
  I've had a small private followup conversation with Andreas about
  this. He basically came up with the suggestion to turn
  debian-multime...@lists.debian.org from a *development* oriented mailing
  list to a *user* focused list. This way users can share their thoughts,
  concerns and kudos.
 
 Sounds good to me.
 
 I also digged out some mails from the archive with subject closing down
 debian-multimedia alioth project and l.d.o list, dating back to April
 2009.

I think I started that thread. At the time the team was pretty small.
Just to be clear, I like the new plan to re-purpose it as a user support
list better than my previous idea of closing it down.

 I'm not entirely sure the release team is happy if we'll upload 17
 packages just because of a maintainer's email address change, but given
 the long release cycle, I see no other way if we want to use
 debian-multime...@l.d.o, unless it's acceptable to see a bug reports now
 and then on this list.
 
 BTW: Many of these packages are pretty old, e.g. no new upload since
 2007 for hexter. They are also not available on git.debian.org. It might
 be a good first step for beginners to get some experience with git,
 git-buildpackage, team guidelines (multiline fields) and housekeeping in
 general to help with these 17 packages. WDYT? ;)

I would like to work on those. I've been meaning to work on packaging and
becoming a DD for many years ... I really wanted to be more involved
this year, but life and DebConf sort of got in the way.

So, I'll try to get caught up on the rest of this thread to see what
others think and have decided. But, if it's still thought to be ok to
keep these packages around, I would like to work on them as a learning
exercise.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Bug#592170: please add debconf delegates to intro/organisation

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 05:19:56PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 On 08/09/2010 05:05 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
  I've just gotten home and am probably going afk for some relaxation
  soon. But, I wanted to point out that only a few members of the DC10
  localteam were active in the debian vs debconf discussion (event 658).
  I hope that more of them can and will contribute to the September
  discussion.
 
 I haven't yet watched any video of the BoF, as i'm currently taking care
 of other work.  Could someone tell me where to find info on what i
 should be paying attention to in september?

I think the idea is to have a more complete and thorough discussion of
the relationship between debian and debconf on list(s) in September. I
was in the room ... but, somehow too tired and emotionally overwrought
to participate in or process much of what was said. I'll need to watch
the video to get a better idea. So, the details of which list(s) and who
will start and frame the discussion are not clear to me.

My main memory is that there were a lot of non-local people there and
only Pablo and Brian speaking from localteam. Jeremy and I were there,
too, but both of us remained silent.

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Re: [Debconf-video] Fixing broken audio in 1078 and 1079

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:32:10PM +0200, Adrian Knoth wrote:
 Hi!
 
 As you might know, two (or more) videos have problems with sound, the
 pitch isn't correct:
 
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/Videoteam/ReportBug
 
 The most likely reason is a sample rate mismatch, that is, data that's
 actually 44100Hz is presented and played back as 48000Hz. As with tapes
 or vinyl running at the wrong speed, this alters the pitch.

snipped lots of useful and interesting stuff

We have the DV files. We should be able to apply a similar fix to those
and rerun the trancodings from the fixed DV. 

Thanks for working on this Adrian.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Blog on O'Reilly site about Debconf

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 02:27:59PM -0400, Andy Oram wrote:
 You are probably all pretty exhausted by now. Unfortunately, I could 
 spend only a few days at the conference. But I wrote up a big report:
 
 http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2010/08/report-from-debian-conference.html
 
 I got a couple people to do a sanity check, but I can make changes if 
 anyone on this list sees huge bloopers. For minor comments, feel free to 
 get an account and post a comment. I hope I remembered all the right 
 people to thank.
 
 Great job!

Hi Andy,

Thanks for this! and thanks for mentioning the videoteam. :)

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Re: Ffmpeg : experimental to unstable

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 03:12:30PM +0200, Brent Clark wrote:
 On 05/08/2010 14:58, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
 I've talked to the release managers on tuesday about this, and we more
 or less agreed that it's too late for squeeze.

 I've tried, but it's no longer in my hands.


 Thanks for replying and trying.

For what it's worth, DebConf10 videoteam is using the experimental
ffmpeg packages backported to a squeeze snapshot. dvswitch and
ffmpeg2theora both use ffmpeg libraries. Everything is working well. So,
it might be feasible to provide backports more broadly.

Far from ideal, but, at least it's an option.

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Re: [Debconf-team] hacklab and davis networking changes to benefit video team

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 09:29:38AM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
lots of useful and helpful reports of fixes

Thank you for taking care of this.

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Re: [Debconf-team] available video camera

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 05:38:03PM -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
 Holger Levsen wrote:
  Hi Michael,
  
  On Donnerstag, 29. Juli 2010, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
   I have a consumer MiniDV camera I can bring.  I arrive in New York on
   Saturday evening.
  
  you're staying til the very end, right? if so, please bring it!
 
 My flight home is early August 8.  I'll be sure to bring my camera.

That's great. Thank you very much.

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Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf10-localteam] please review (signing up for volunteering to help with talks)

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:06:06PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 On 07/28/2010 07:23 PM, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Yes, that's true.  edrz rightly points out the elevator as a potential
 source of problems.  do we have access to the northern stairwell near
 interschool?  a few flights of stairs between talks will help people
 work up some body heat to combat the chill :p

Aiui, Richard's earlier investigations revealed that the stairs are only
available for emergency egress. i.e. you can't go up them and going down
them sets off fire alarms.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Pollen in NYC

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:58:26PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Now there are some Debian folk on the ground in NYC, I hope somebody can
 give an idea of what pollen levels are actually like, rather than relying
 on weather report readings.
 
 My hayfever is particularly bad here at the moment, but I'm hoping it will
 be better in the city and especially with A/C, so if it's not terrible I
 shan't bother dragging all my various medication with me.

I use pollen.com for myself during the high seasons at home in the DC
metro area. It covers NYC, too.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Pollen in NYC

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 06:23:09PM -0400, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 09:58:26PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Now there are some Debian folk on the ground in NYC, I hope somebody can
  give an idea of what pollen levels are actually like, rather than relying
  on weather report readings.
  
  My hayfever is particularly bad here at the moment, but I'm hoping it will
  be better in the city and especially with A/C, so if it's not terrible I
  shan't bother dragging all my various medication with me.
 
 I'm not having much problems ATM; but then my worst period is usually
 around may-june rather than now, anyway.

The worst times in USA (maybe elsewhere) are spring when the trees are
pollinating (oaks being among the worst) and fall/harvest time when it
more weeds and grasses.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Security certificate for our website

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:59:55PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:02:29 -0400, Gabriella Coleman bie...@nyu.edu wrote:
  I would like to send out the debconf schedule to some interested
  parties, especially to get folks to come to our more general talks,
  especially the one by Eben Moglen.
  
  The problem is that folks visiting our schedule will still get the
  security warning page and might not proceed to visit the page. Is there
  any way we can just pay for another certificate so this does not
  happen??
 
 Point them at this, perhaps?
 
   http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/index.en.html

I think she means the ssl cert. not the penta login.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Missing a meeting

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 09:48:38PM -0400, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
 I'll miss today's meeting, my cuzin is having a mini party since it's his
 birthday today. If you end up having the transcript of a meeting I'd be most
 greatful.
 
 Adnan

there is just this: http://whiteboard.debian.net/29379a.txt

i'll try to get a moment to fill in more details ...

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Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf10-localteam] Local jobs organization and some questions

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Did we fill in these roles with specific people?

(sorry for top posting) -edrz

On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 01:44:56PM -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
 
 
  We'd like to request people to head these categories:
  - Arrivals Coordinator
  - Volunteer Coordinator (biella?)
  - Arrival weekend food coordinator
  - DebCamp food coordinator (only if we do something different here)
  - John Jay food coordinator (jeremy?)
  - Schwag: t-shirts, sponsor bags, banners, and so on
 
 Hi folks,
 
 So I think breaking this down is a really good idea and I am down for
 doing the volunteer coordinator if we break it down and have one person
 also in charge of the various sub-categories where we need volunteers. I
 can take one of the sub-categories, as well as be in charge of the big
 picture. I am also going to start trying to corral folks to volunteer in
 the first place.
 
 If there are not enough folks do to this, then there should be at least
 two folks doing the volunteer coordination because it is the largest job
 up there (at least I think it is, but perhaps I am mistaken).
 
 Currently we need volunteers to do the following tasks, although I have
 questions for many of them.
 
 
 1. TalkMeister: Help coordinate talks (make sure they start/end on time,
 make sure equipment works, though video team can help, and help with Q
 and A).
   * Past organizers: how was this handled in past debconfs?
 
 
 2. Front Desk: Make sure that we have the Front Desked Manned and
 Wommaned at all times. We might want to have locals always doing this as
 they can give advice about NY stuff as well.
 
 3. Cleaning: I am still not clear as to whether we will be spending so
 much money on this that we won't need to do this or whether we will
 indeed need a handful of folks to help tidy up 2x a day in the hacklab
 annd lounges.
   * Mr Beige: Can you update us on this?
 
 4. Tee-Shirt Sales: Sell tee shirts.
   * Past Organizers: how was this (successful) handled in the past? 
 Did
 you do this everyday? Most days? Part of the day?
 
 5. Building access: As with the cleaning, I am not sure whether we will
 need volunteers to take care of this or what this even entails.
   * Mr Beinge: Can you update us on this?
 
 We also need volunteers to stuff attendee bags but I am going to suggest
 that a whole lot of us do that together while we chat about other things.
 
 There were a few other categories but they are taken care of by other
 teams (outreach, for example) or were collapsed into one.
 
 Biella
 
 
 
 
 
 Gabriella Coleman, Assistant Professor
 Department of Media, Culture,  Communication
 New York University
 239 Greene St, 7th floor
 NY NY 10003
 212-992-7696
 http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/faculty_bios/view/Gabriella_Coleman
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[Debconf-team] talk rooms, keys, etc.

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Richard delegated talk room access to me yesterday. Which means I have
the key for Interschool Lab and Davis Auditorium.

I went to check on Davis just after the hacklab opened. The room was
unlocked and the lights were on.

I'm going back to my room briefly to drop off some things and find my
camera. I'll take pictures to document the before state of the rooms
before starting to unpack, inventory and set up videoteam gear.

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Re: [Debconf-team] Please move Debconf video training to beginning

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 01:54:00PM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 On 07/20/2010 01:31 PM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
  My thought was mainly to have them in a schedule somewhere. It didn't
  occur to me that penta wouldn't allow the same event to have multiple
  instances. I'll put in several training sessions to be scheduled during
  DebCamp. 
 
 Thanks.  please mark them with the DebCamp track so that they're
 easier to find.

I created 676 and scheduled it for Tuesday the 27th in Interschool.
However, it shows up neither in the logged-in nor the exported versions
of the schedule. I can create the others (Thursday in Davis ... maybe
one other). But, there's not much point if they don't show up, I guess.

https://penta.debconf.org/penta/schedule/dc10/track/DebCamp/index.en.html
(the logo and index on ^this^ version are messed up)

https://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/track/DebCamp/index.en.html

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Re: [Debconf-team] Please move Debconf video training to beginning

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:27:48AM -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
 On 07/23/2010 08:55 AM, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
  I created 676 and scheduled it for Tuesday the 27th in Interschool.
 
 Thanks for doing this, Eric.
 
  However, it shows up neither in the logged-in nor the exported versions
  of the schedule. I can create the others (Thursday in Davis ... maybe
  one other). But, there's not much point if they don't show up, I guess.
 
 I just checked the Public event box on the scheduling tab.  it seems
 to be showing up now.
 
 If you could create and schedule the other video-team training event(s)
 that would be great.

Doh! thanks. sorry about that. I've added 677 as well now.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] More questions regarding what to bring for DebConf10 (and other stuff)

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 01:52:53PM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I am resending this (with another question appended at the end) because
 I think that my messages are not getting through.
 
 On Jul 22 2010, Rogério Brito wrote:
  Hi there, people.
  
  As a continuation of what one should bring when coming to this
  year's Debconf, I have some questions:
  
  1 - What type of mains outlets will we use? I faintly remember having
  read this one, but can't find it again.  An A plug? B plug? [1][2]
  Any other? And the voltage? 127V?
  
  [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_plug.jpg
  [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Domestic_AC_Type_B_USA.jpg

This and other useful info is available here:
http://debconf10.debconf.org/practicalinfo.xhtml

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