[RESULT][VOTE] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-13 Thread Ron Liu
Hi, Dev I'm happy to announce that FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table[1] has been accepted with 8 approving votes (4 binding) [2]. - Xuyang - Feng Jin - Lincoln Lee(binding) - Jark Wu(binding) - Ron Liu(binding) - Shengkai Fang(binding) - Keith Lee

Re: Re: [VOTE] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-09 Thread Ron Liu
: > > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > Feng > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 7:37 PM Xuyang wrote: > > > > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > > &

Re: [VOTE] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-08 Thread Ron Liu
there is an objection or not enough votes. [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-448%3A+Introduce+Pluggable+Workflow+Scheduler+Interface+for+Materialized+Table [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/57xfo6p25rbrhcg01dhyok46zt6jc5q1 Best, Ron Ron Liu 于2024年5月9日周四 13:52写道: > Hi Dev, Thank

[VOTE] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-08 Thread Ron Liu
Hi Dev, Thank you to everyone for the feedback on FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table[1][2]. I'd like to start a vote for it. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours unless there is an objection or not enough votes. [1]

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-08 Thread Ron Liu
Hi, Dev Thank you all for joining this thread and giving your comments and suggestions, they have helped improve this proposal and I look forward to further feedback. If there are no further comments, I'd like to close the discussion and start the voting one day later. Best, Ron Ron Liu 于2024年

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-07 Thread Ron Liu
/blob/29736b8c01924b7da03d4bcbfd9c812a8e5a08b4/flink-table/flink-table-api-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/table/operations/Operation.java Best, Ron Ron Liu 于2024年5月7日周二 14:30写道: > > 4. It appears that in the section on `public interfaces`, within > `Workflow

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-07 Thread Ron Liu
ter and the caller. Best, Ron Ron Liu 于2024年5月6日周一 20:48写道: > Hi, Xuyang > > Thanks for joining this discussion > > > 1. In the sequence diagram, it appears that there is a missing step for > obtaining the refresh handler from the catalog during the suspend operation. > >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-06 Thread Ron Liu
that in the section on `public interfaces`, within > `WorkflowOperation`, `CreatePeriodicWorkflowOperation` should be changed to > > `CreateWorkflowOperation`, right? > > > > > -- > > Best! > Xuyang > > > > > > At 2024-04-22 14:41:39, "Ron L

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-05-04 Thread Ron Liu
simply wait for the PRs to come. > > > > > After discussing with Shengkai offline, there is no need for this REST > > API > > to support multiple tables to be refreshed at the same time, so it would > be > > more appropriate to put the materialized table identifier in

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-04-28 Thread Ron Liu
ache/flink/blob/b1544e4e513d2b75b350c20dbb1c17a8232c22fd/flink-table/flink-table-api-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/table/catalog/listener/CatalogModificationListener.java#L31 Best, Ron Ron Liu 于2024年4月28日周日 23:53写道: > Hi, Shengkai > > Thanks for your feedback and suggestion, it looks very useful for this > proposal

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-04-28 Thread Ron Liu
Hi, Shengkai Thanks for your feedback and suggestion, it looks very useful for this proposal, regarding your question I made the following optimization: > *WorkflowScheduler* > 1. How to get the exception details if `modifyRefreshWorkflow` fails? > 2. Could you give us an example about how to

Re: [VOTE] FLIP-445: Support dynamic parallelism inference for HiveSource

2024-04-25 Thread Ron Liu
+1(binding) Best, Ron Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> 于2024年4月26日周五 12:55写道: > +1(binding) > > Best, > Rui > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 10:26 AM Muhammet Orazov > wrote: > > > Hey Xia, > > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > Thanks and best, > > Muhammet > > > > On 2024-04-26 02:21, Xia Sun wrote: > >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-04-25 Thread Ron Liu
2. Regarding the status information of the workflow, I am wondering if it > is necessary to provide an interface to display the backend scheduling > information? This would make it more convenient to view the execution > status of backend jobs. > > > Best, > Feng > > &g

[DISCUSS] FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table

2024-04-22 Thread Ron Liu
Hi, Dev I would like to start a discussion about FLIP-448: Introduce Pluggable Workflow Scheduler Interface for Materialized Table. In FLIP-435[1], we proposed Materialized Table, which has two types of data refresh modes: Full Refresh & Continuous Refresh Mode. In Full Refresh mode, the

[RESULT][VOTE] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Materialized Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-22 Thread Ron Liu
Hi, Dev I'm happy to announce that FLIP-435: Introduce a New Materialized Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines[1] has been accepted with 13 approving votes (8 binding) [2] - Ron Liu(binding) - Feng Jin - Rui Fan(binding) - Yuepeng Pan - Ahmed Hamdy - Ferenc Csaky - Lincoln Lee(binding) - Leonard

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-445: Support dynamic parallelism inference for HiveSource

2024-04-18 Thread Ron Liu
Hi, Xia Thanks for updating, looks good to me. Best, Ron Xia Sun 于2024年4月18日周四 19:11写道: > Hi Ron, > Yes, presenting it in a table might be more intuitive. I have already added > the table in the "Public Interfaces | New Config Option" chapter of FLIP. > PTAL~ > > R

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-445: Support dynamic parallelism inference for HiveSource

2024-04-18 Thread Ron Liu
the Enum options in InferMode class. > > Best, > Xia > > Lijie Wang 于2024年4月18日周四 13:50写道: > > > Thanks for driving the discussion. > > > > +1 for the proposal and +1 for the `InferMode.NONE` option. > > > > Best, > > Lijie > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-445: Support dynamic parallelism inference for HiveSource

2024-04-17 Thread Ron liu
Hi, Xia Thanks for driving this FLIP. This proposal looks good to me overall. However, I have the following minor questions: 1. FLIP introduced `table.exec.hive.infer-source-parallelism.mode` as a new parameter, and the value is the enum class `InferMode`, I think the InferMode class should

Re: [VOTE] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Materialized Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-17 Thread Ron liu
+1(binding) Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年4月17日周三 14:27写道: > Hi Dev, > > Thank you to everyone for the feedback on FLIP-435: Introduce a New > Materialized Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines[1][2]. > > I'd like to start a vote for it. The vote will be open for at least

[VOTE] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Materialized Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-17 Thread Ron liu
Hi Dev, Thank you to everyone for the feedback on FLIP-435: Introduce a New Materialized Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines[1][2]. I'd like to start a vote for it. The vote will be open for at least 72 hours unless there is an objection or not enough votes. [1]

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Apache Flink Committer - Zakelly Lan

2024-04-14 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations! Best, Ron Yuan Mei 于2024年4月15日周一 10:51写道: > Hi everyone, > > On behalf of the PMC, I'm happy to let you know that Zakelly Lan has become > a new Flink Committer! > > Zakelly has been continuously contributing to the Flink project since 2020, > with a focus area on

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-12 Thread Ron liu
FLIP-282 [1] has also introduced Update & Delete API for modifying table. 1. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=235838061 Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年4月12日周五 19:49写道: > Hi, jgrier > > Thanks for your insightful input. > > First of all, very

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Apache Flink PMC Member - Lincoln Lee

2024-04-12 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations, Lincoln! Best, Ron Junrui Lee 于2024年4月12日周五 18:54写道: > Congratulations, Lincoln! > > Best, > Junrui > > Aleksandr Pilipenko 于2024年4月12日周五 18:29写道: > > > Congratulations, Lincoln! > > > > Best Regards > > Aleksandr > > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Apache Flink PMC Member - Jing Ge

2024-04-12 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations, Jing! Best, Ron Junrui Lee 于2024年4月12日周五 18:54写道: > Congratulations, Jing! > > Best, > Junrui > > Aleksandr Pilipenko 于2024年4月12日周五 18:28写道: > > > Congratulations, Jing! > > > > Best Regards, > > Aleksandr > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-12 Thread Ron liu
; > > > >standard, with a strong association with query, and has industry > > > > > precedents > > > > >such as Google Looker. > > > > > > > > > > 2. Live Table -> an alternative for 'dynamic table' > > > > > >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-09 Thread Ron liu
Hi, Dev My rankings are: 1. Derived Table 2. Materialized Table 3. Live Table 4. Materialized View Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年4月9日周二 20:07写道: > Hi, Dev > > After several rounds of discussion, there is currently no consensus on the > name of the new concept. Timo has proposed th

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-09 Thread Ron liu
Friday. I look forward to everyone voting on the name in this thread. Of course, we also welcome new input regarding the name. Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年4月9日周二 19:49写道: > Hi, Dev > > Sorry for my previous statement was not quite accurate. We will hold a > vote for the name within t

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-09 Thread Ron liu
Hi, Dev Sorry for my previous statement was not quite accurate. We will hold a vote for the name within this thread. Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年4月9日周二 19:29写道: > Hi, Timo > > Thanks for your reply. > > I agree with you that sometimes naming is more difficult. When no on

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-09 Thread Ron liu
gt; 2. Materialized Table -> similar to SQL materialized view but a table > 3. Live Table -> nice buzzword, but maybe still too close to dynamic > tables? > 4. Materialized View -> a bit broader than standard but still very similar > 5. Derived table -> taken by standard > >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-07 Thread Ron liu
-materialized-query [3] https://community.denodo.com/docs/html/browse/6.0/vdp/vql/materialized_tables/creating_materialized_tables/creating_materialized_tables Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年4月7日周日 15:55写道: > Hi, Lorenzo > > Thank you for your insightful input. > > >>> I think the 2 above

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-07 Thread Ron liu
ly > > prefer something like CREATE CONTINUOUS TABLE, CREATE REFRESH TABLE or > > CREATE LIVE TABLE. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Martijn > > > > [1] > > > https://docs.databricks.com/en/sql/language-manual/sql-ref-syntax-ddl-create-streaming-

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-02 Thread Ron liu
that the Refresh command and the background refresh job can be executed in parallel, with no restrictions at the framework level. 5. Convert RefreshHandler into a plug-in interface to support various workflow schedulers. Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年4月2日周二 10:28写道: > Hi, Venkata krishnan > > Thank you

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-04-01 Thread Ron liu
ontext of a bootstrap (batch) + nearline update > (streaming) case that are stateful applications? What I mean by that is, > will the state from the batch application be transferred to the nearline > application after the bootstrap execution is complete? > > Regards > Venkata krish

Re: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Paimon is graduated to Top Level Project

2024-04-01 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations! Best, Ron Jeyhun Karimov 于2024年4月1日周一 18:12写道: > Congratulations! > > Regards, > Jeyhun > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 7:43 AM Guowei Ma wrote: > > > Congratulations! > > Best, > > Guowei > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2024 at 11:15 AM Feng Jin wrote: > > > > > Congratulations! > >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-03-25 Thread Ron liu
he given query, the content cannot be changed by using DML. > > > You don’t insert, update, or delete the rows in a dynamic table. > > > > So a new term makes a lot of sense. > > > > How about using `UPDATING`? > > > > CREATE UPDATING TABLE > >

Re: Support minibatch for TopNFunction

2024-03-25 Thread Ron liu
Hi, Roman Thanks for your proposal, I intuitively feel that this optimization would be very useful to reduce the amount of message amplification for TopN operators. After briefly looking at your google docs, I have the following questions: 1. Whether you can describe in detail the principle of

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-03-25 Thread Ron liu
c Table in FLIP user story section, Dynamic Table can be referenced by downstream Dynamic Table and can also support OLAP queries. Best, Ron Ron liu 于2024年3月23日周六 10:35写道: > Hi, Feng > > Thanks for your feedback. > > > Although currently we restrict users from modifying the qu

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-03-22 Thread Ron liu
gt;>> the catalog or somewhere else. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> [1] > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/FLIP-134%3A+Batch+execution+for+the+Da

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Donation Flink CDC into Apache Flink has Completed

2024-03-20 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations! Best, Ron Jark Wu 于2024年3月21日周四 10:46写道: > Congratulations and welcome! > > Best, > Jark > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 at 10:35, Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Congratulations! > > > > Best, > > Rui > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:25 AM Hang Ruan > wrote: > > > > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Donation Flink CDC into Apache Flink has Completed

2024-03-20 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations! Best, Ron Jark Wu 于2024年3月21日周四 10:46写道: > Congratulations and welcome! > > Best, > Jark > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 at 10:35, Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Congratulations! > > > > Best, > > Rui > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:25 AM Hang Ruan > wrote: > > > > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Donation Flink CDC into Apache Flink has Completed

2024-03-20 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations! Best, Ron Jark Wu 于2024年3月21日周四 10:46写道: > Congratulations and welcome! > > Best, > Jark > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 at 10:35, Rui Fan <1996fan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Congratulations! > > > > Best, > > Rui > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:25 AM Hang Ruan > wrote: > > > > >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Flink 1.19.0 released

2024-03-18 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations Best, Ron Yanfei Lei 于2024年3月18日周一 20:01写道: > Congrats, thanks for the great work! > > Sergey Nuyanzin 于2024年3月18日周一 19:30写道: > > > > Congratulations, thanks release managers and everyone involved for the > great work! > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:15 PM Benchao Li >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Flink 1.19.0 released

2024-03-18 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations Best, Ron Yanfei Lei 于2024年3月18日周一 20:01写道: > Congrats, thanks for the great work! > > Sergey Nuyanzin 于2024年3月18日周一 19:30写道: > > > > Congratulations, thanks release managers and everyone involved for the > great work! > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:15 PM Benchao Li >

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache Flink 1.19.0 released

2024-03-18 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations Best, Ron Yanfei Lei 于2024年3月18日周一 20:01写道: > Congrats, thanks for the great work! > > Sergey Nuyanzin 于2024年3月18日周一 19:30写道: > > > > Congratulations, thanks release managers and everyone involved for the > great work! > > > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:15 PM Benchao Li >

Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-03-14 Thread Ron liu
ES`. Your proposal seems to rephrase STREAM and EMIT, > > into other keywords DYNAMIC TABLE and FRESHNESS. But the core > > functionality is still there. I'm wondering if we should widen the scope > > (maybe not part of this FLIP but a new FLIP) to follow the standard more >

Re: [VOTE] Release 1.19.0, release candidate #2

2024-03-11 Thread Ron liu
+1 (non binding) quickly verified: - verified that source distribution does not contain binaries - verified checksums - built source code successfully Best, Ron Jeyhun Karimov 于2024年3月12日周二 01:00写道: > +1 (non binding) > > - verified that source distribution does not contain binaries > -

[DISCUSS] FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines

2024-03-11 Thread Ron liu
Hi, Dev Lincoln Lee and I would like to start a discussion about FLIP-435: Introduce a New Dynamic Table for Simplifying Data Pipelines. This FLIP is designed to simplify the development of data processing pipelines. With Dynamic Tables with uniform SQL statements and freshness, users can

Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Apache Flink Committer - Jiabao Sun

2024-02-25 Thread Ron liu
Congratulations, Jiabao! Best, Ron Yun Tang 于2024年2月23日周五 19:59写道: > Congratulations, Jiabao! > > Best > Yun Tang > > From: Weihua Hu > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2024 17:29 > To: dev@flink.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] New Apache Flink Committer -

Re: Temporal join on rolling aggregate

2024-02-25 Thread Ron liu
+1, But I think this should be a more general requirement, that is, support for declaring watermarks in query, which can be declared for any type of source, such as table, view. Similar to databricks provided [1], this needs a FLIP. [1]

Re: Temporal join on rolling aggregate

2024-02-25 Thread Ron liu
+1, But I think this should be a more general requirement, that is, support for declaring watermarks in query, which can be declared for any type of source, such as table, view. Similar to databricks provided [1], this needs a FLIP. [1]

Re: Long execution of SQL query to Kafka + Hive (q77 TPC-DS)

2024-01-25 Thread Ron liu
Hi, Can you help to explain the q77 execution plan? And find which operator takes a long time in flink UI? Best Ron Вова Фролов 于2024年1月24日周三 09:09写道: > Hello, > > I am executing a heterogeneous SQL query (part of the data is in Hive > and part in Kafka. The query utilizes TPC-DS benchmark

Re: Re: [VOTE] FLIP-389: Annotate SingleThreadFetcherManager as PublicEvolving

2024-01-19 Thread Ron liu
+1(binding) Best, Ron Xuyang 于2024年1月19日周五 14:00写道: > +1 (non-binding) > > > -- > > Best! > Xuyang > > > > > > 在 2024-01-19 10:16:23,"Qingsheng Ren" 写道: > >+1 (binding) > > > >Thanks for the work, Hongshun! > > > >Best, > >Qingsheng > > > >On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 11:21 AM Leonard Xu

[Samba] Samba PDC change password issue

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[Samba] Samba-ldap-pdc questions

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