Re: Sons of Abraham (was: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines)

According to the genealogy of bahai-library, I SUPPOSE Krishna and Buddha possibly descent from Japheth (Aryan people) son of Noah. And Zoroaster, from Keturah Jokshan DedanPatti Goebel [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi:

Re: Sons of Abraham (was: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines)

Interesting question. I guess Keturah's children might get little mention because it doesn't seem like promises are associated with them in the same way. Also, I've heard that in some rabbinic commentaries Keturah actually *is* Hagar. Basically the idea is that Hagar was a concubine when she had

Sons of Abraham (was: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines)

Does that need to be understood literally? I think the common Baha'i belief that Zoroaster, Buddha and Krishna are from the seed of Abraham is probably a myth. warmest, Susan Susan, With so much focus on Issac and Ishmael many people sometimes forget (or never hear about) the other children of

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

If the Manifestation can convince so wicked and spiritually blind a man as the Sultan in ten minutes; surely the next Manifestation will be able to prove His or Her mission to the House of Justice. Brent, If, as some might interpret it to, the Tablet of the Holy Mariner, at least on one level,

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - be proud

Dear Susan, I said I don't know. But this quotes says "Prophets":'Abdu'l-Bah, in one of His Tablets, has given to, and the emphasis He has placed upon, the hereditary principle and the law of primogeniture as having been upheld by the Prophets of the past (Shoghi Effendi, The World

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Dear Hasan,I was speaking of the Manifestation to come. Will there be false claimants? There might be. If a claimant comes to light who bases his claim solely upon a genealogy then I would refrain from following him unless I was convinced his words proved his station. The best proof of the

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I showed you evidence for my claims about your beliefs which was also another option which you offered. Gilberto, I specifically asked you to show me where *I* said anything like that about the Jews. You did not do so. But in addition I also made a statement which constituted an apology.

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I sent it again, my message ddidn't arriveI give less positivism and more credit to traditions and genetic lines, Shoghi Effendi and Nabil liked to draw Holy trees on religion and monarchs trees, explaining much times meanings within (the Bible contains a lot).Personally, I like to

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I am not trying to upset you. I am not joking. Think of it this way: In the future someone appears CLAIMING to be the next Manifestation and produces a family tree showing he is descended from Baha`u'llah. Dear Scott, A family tree showing he is a descendent from Baha'u'llah would

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Dear Gilberto, Khazeh persuaded me to rethink my position and accept what you felt to be an apology. You're welcome to stay. Susan The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to

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I see your point and agree, but would point out that we have accepted Shoghi Effendi before we read his family tree. In the future when a false claimant might arise, why should we accept his "genealogy as "true", when it could have been forged?Its just a document, and we all know documents can

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Well, I think it would be neutral in effect. We do not, after all, believe in original sin. I think we will see any number of descendants of covenant breakers come to the faith over the next centuries. Is their forebear's sin there's as well?Regards, Scott[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I don't know Scott I suppose next Prophet will be from Bah'u'llh's line, but nothing is written so far I think.Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi:I see your point and agree, but would point out that we have accepted Shoghi Effendi before we read his family tree. In the future

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

We don't have any basis of decision other than the spiritual decision when it comes down to it. We made the decision to follow Baha`u'llah because our spirit recognized Him, in the future that wil be the answer for anyone else as well.Regards, ScottHasan Elias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I see your point and agree, but would point out that we have accepted Shoghi Effendi before we read his family tree. In the future when a false claimant might arise, why should we accept his genealogy as true, when it could have been forged? Where does Baha'u'llah indicate that acceptance

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Well, I think it would be neutral in effect. We do not, after all, believe in original sin. If that's the case then what difference should it make if the next Manifestation descends from Baha'u'llah or not? The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail)

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It doesn't, Susan. We will be faced with the same choice that we all had - the reliance on our own rational soul to choose the truth and follow it.Regards, Scott[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see your point and agree, but would point out that we have accepted Shoghi Effendi before we read his

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Susan,I don't think it is necessary at all. I think He will be descended from Abraham, but then I am probably descended from Abraham and you too, as you have pointed out. A geneaology is no proof at all - the only proof could be spiritual, the only means of decision would be on perceived

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Scott, you may know 'Abdu'l-Bah mentioned four ways to get the truth (senses, reason, traditions, inspiration or faith), but He says the only "infallible" way is through the Holy Ghost. I know most of them are subjective, but...You wrote: "A geneaology is no proof at all"That

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

"That was a special indication (among others) from Siyyid Kazim Rashti to recognize the Qaim remember?" Dear Hasan, Indeed I do. But that was the Manifestation before this One. We are talking about She who is to come. "Just curious: Do you thinkImanate is not "a proof at all"

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? She?

In the letter David Bowie sent, the House call next Prophet "Him", but I don't know "He" is generic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi: But that was the Manifestation before this One. We are talking about She who is to come. The information contained in this e-mail and any

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - be proud

I don't know, really. But, I wonder if a no-descendant could attain that "hereditary principle" which sustains the law of God as the Master said.Susan, why a man or woman has to be shamed because of their ancestry of covenant-breaking? Why not (if he/she is a good person) to be

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I'm talking about the proof that Imams are descendants of the Prophet, because they claimed authority and you know they were, indeed, the legitimate successors of Muhammad. Nobody never confirm scientifically ADN's chains. Dear Hasan, Ali was an Imam even though he was not a

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? She?

? In the letter David Bowie sent, the House call next Prophet Him, but I don't know He is generic. Dear Hasan, Yes, the House consistently uses the male form for the generic when it writes in English. Persian, however, has no gender. warmest, Susan The information contained in

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - be proud

I don't know, really. But, I wonder if a no-descendant could attain that hereditary principle which sustains the law of God as the Master said. How about Ali and Peter? Susan, why a man or woman has to be shamed because of their ancestry of covenant-breaking? Why not (if

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - be proud

I don't know, really. But, I wonder if a no-descendant could attain that "hereditary principle" which "sustains the law of God" as the Master said.This whole heredity issue becomes irrelevant after a few hundred years because, as others have said, everyone is related to everyone

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

the Covenant was also crystal clear about a continuing line of Guardians, so I don't think that really addresses Hasan's question about badaa. The Will and Testament is clear about how future Guardians were to be chosen, but that document does not guarantee that there will always be a

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I am curious about the purpose of discussing this topic, given that none of us will be around in 900 years to see what happens.If in a discussion, someone raises the possibility that the House of Justice might lose its infallibility after the thousand years have passed, how does that

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Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi:I am curious about the purpose of discussing this topic, given that none of us will be around in 900 years to see what happens. Hi Tim,To talk about Four and Seven Valleys, doesnt actually means that any of us could reach the last valleys? (At

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

Sunday, January 29, 2006, 11 Sultán 162 BE In 1997 a friend of mine wrote to the House of Justice about the recognition (or not) of the next Manifestation. He received this reply. David MESSAGE: The Universal House of Justice has received your email message of 24 May 1997 inquiring

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or peharps 1511 or 2001. ;-}///Hey Susan, good point, most of Shaykhs and Azalis (about Ghiyath 1511) confine the interpret! ation of their respective messianic prophecies into intrinsic numerological tricks to reject the Bb and Bahullh respectively. A

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I am curious about the purpose of discussing this topic, given that none of us will be around in 900 years to see what happens. Dear Tim, Well, it didn't start with speculation about what would happen in a thousand years. It started with Hasan's questions as to whether, given the doctrine

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

Hey David, this letter is splendid, thanks for quoting it here; you saved much much time quoting it!!!I hope many of us follow this noble action, quoting letters we receive from the House with absolute detachment.As to the letter,

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

Dear Susan,Bah'u'llh forbids us to interpret the holy verse of the Aqdas about 1000 or more years the next Coming.I wonder if this BADAH (the possibility of a Prophet before 1000 years) is broking that command.[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi: I am curious about the purpose of

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

A scholar said me that in Tablets not yet translated, Bahá'u'lláh links Mustaghath and its number 2001 with the numbers 9 and 19. I know great scholar Stephen Lambden (http://www.hurqalya.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/BAHA'-ALLAH/L- Khalil%20Shirazi.htm) explains about this issue, saying this could

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

Bahá'u'lláh forbids us to interpret the holy verse of the Aqdas about 1000 or more years the next Coming. I wonder if this BADAH (the possibility of a Prophet before 1000 years) is broking that command. Dear Hasan, Except what you are actually asking is not if the verse in question

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Maybe I'm exaggerated about the importance of genetic lines, but I would like to follow the Muhammad, the Bb and Bah'u'llh genetic lines. From Adan to Shoghi Effendi, there is a continuous blood line, that is why I ask about the importance of "spiritual genes".[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi:

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

From Adan to Shoghi Effendi, there is a continuous blood line, that is why I ask about the importance of spiritual genes. Dear Hasan, It is not a blood line that can really be traced historically. Give a few hundred years and everyone is related to everyone else anyhow. warmest, Susan

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Susan, do you think next Prophet will be a descendent of Abraham through Aghsán or Afnán lines?If the answer is ‘yes’, then how can we sure He/She is? Historically, Siyyid Kazim said the Qaim (the Báb) was of pure lineage, people can easy recognize it because of ‘siyyid’s denomination.If

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

Dear Susan, do you know any text on whichtheCentral Figures or the Guardian mention the word badaa/badah? I would like to see the context/meaning of this word. [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi: Bah'u'llh forbids us to interpret the holy verse of the Aqdas about 1000 or more years the next

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Possibly from past lines. I don't think you would like, but we can do this for Afnán and Aghsán. Dear Hasan, I expect in a few hundred years everyone will have some Afnan blood in their veins. As for those who descend from Covenant breakers, they are more likely to want to hide their

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Susan, do you think next Prophet will be a descendent of Abraham through Aghsán or Afnán lines? If the answer is ?yes?, then how can we sure He/She is? Dear Hasan, As a historian I can't even be sure that Abraham ever existed. But if He did then I expect everyone will be a

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

I think that this is one of the instances of bada'a in the Writings. Here is is translated as creation: . . . the Beauty of the Unseen hath shone forth above the horizon of creation Prayers and Meditations p. 311. Khazeh Fananapazir once said that bada'a is from the same root as Badi’. I

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

10. QUESTION: Shaving the head hath been forbidden in the Kitáb-i-Aqdas but enjoined in the Suriy-i-Hajj. ANSWER: All are charged with obedience to the Kitáb-i-Aqdas; whatsoever is revealed therein is the Law of God amid His servants. The injunction on pilgrims to the sacred House to shave the

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

Khazeh Fananapazir once said that bada'a is from the same root as Badi’. Dear Brent, My recollection is that he said they had a different root. Unfortunately, we can't access the archives any more to check. Khazeh jan, are you out there? warmest, Susan The information contained

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

My understanding is that this badAA concept/doctrine is a Shi`ii thing. I don't know if Sunni Muslims have a particular emphasis on it. For Shi`ah Muslims badAA is when God chnages His mind. The successor the the Shi`ah 6th Imam (Imam J`afar the Truthful) was supposed to be his son Ismael

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? Guardians' line

Yes, I think the cut of Guardians line is about badaa, maybe because unworthiness of humans, and this unworthiness because we dont reach the high standard. If a hypothetically future living Guardian could easily recognize next Prophet, it will be ate bread (pan comido), humanity, thus wont

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I'm not sure.[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi: Possibly from past lines. I don't think you would like, but we can do this for Afnn and Aghsn. Dear Hasan, I expect in a few hundred years everyone will have some Afnan blood in their veins. As for those who descend from Covenant breakers, they are

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi: As a historian I can't even be sure that Abraham ever existed. But if He did then I expect everyone will be a descendent from Abraham by the time the next Manifestation arrives. That is just the way demographics work. /For you a historian is the

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

So who do we dig up to get the DNA baseline? The Bab, since we have no direct descendants left, for sure - we need both his "Y" Chromosome DNA and his matrilineal mitochondrial material. Then we'll need the same for the line of Baha`u'llah - so we'll need to disinter either Bahas`u'llah or Abdu'l

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too extreme no? you must be kidding,I thougtht there was another way like follow genealogical family tree but never desecrate holy tombs!...Scott Saylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi:So who do we dig up to get the DNA baseline? The Bab, since we have no direct descendants left, for sure

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Family trees are proof of nothing, really. They are at best a "contention". No, desecrating a tomb is not an answer, and getting actually genetic proof of anything is not going to be a possibility. The choice will have to be what it has always been, a spiritual decision, reached by taking free

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

You still joke? If family trees are nothing for you, then the hereditary principle (including our beloved Guardian in it) should be nothing but NOTHING for you until you check it in a laboratory! The same for the Imanate until you be sure or desecrate Imams holy tombs. The glorious lineage

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

I am not trying to upset you. I am not joking.Think of it this way: In the future someone appears CLAIMING to be the next Manifestation and produces a family tree showing he is descended from Baha`u'llah. Why can that family tree NOT be falsified? So, in that instance, it would prove nothing by

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

At 11:52 AM -0600 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Adan to Shoghi Effendi, there is a continuous blood line, that is why I ask about the importance of spiritual genes. Dear Hasan, It is not a blood line that can really be traced historically. Give a few hundred years and everyone is

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

On 1/29/06, Hasan Elias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, do you think next Prophet will be a descendent of Abraham through Aghsán or Afnán lines? If the answer is 'yes', then how can we sure He/She is? Historically, Siyyid Kazim said the Qaim (the Báb) was of pure lineage, people can easy

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

Gilberto, Did I miss your post apologizing to me, or did I not make it clear that you are not welcome here without one? Susan The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

He used to say that in Baha'i theology, badAA simply means that a every 1000 years or so, a new manifestation of God comes and changes/abrogates some Divine laws of the preceding Manifestaion of God. To me, this has always made a lot of sense. BadAA is nothing but Progressive Revelation.

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

Regardless of how you spell it, badaa or bada, the list vowel is a long"A" as in "fAther". You can trasliterate it badA or badAA, or badaa, orbada, or whatever. The second letter is a short "a" as in "bad". But I should have deferred to our very erudite Khazeh ... Iskandar Dear

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years? - genetic lines

On 1/30/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilberto, Did I miss your post apologizing to me, or did I not make it clear that you are not welcome here without one? I showed you evidence for my claims about your beliefs which was also another option which you offered. But in

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

*/[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* escribió: ...badaa signifies a change in the Divine Will. So theoretically it would be possible. But given the strong language Baha'u'llah used in that regard, I think it about as likely as God changing the law of gravity (which

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Is Badaa related Bidaa (Inovation)? Just curious. Dear Rich, They have a slightly different root. warmest, Susan The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential

A Prophet before one thousand years?

The quotes the Guardian gathered in the Dispensation state as explicitly as any subject in the Baha'i Writings that it will be not less than 1000 years before the next Manifestation. The Covenant, unlike other subjects in the Faith (like the mystical teachings) are not hidden and waiting to be

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

The quotes the Guardian gathered in the Dispensation state as explicitly as any subject in the Baha'i Writings that it will be not less than 1000 years before the next Manifestation. The Covenant, unlike other subjects in the Faith (like the mystical teachings) are not hidden and waiting to be

Re: A Prophet before one thousand years?

The Covenant is absolutely crystal- clear, in explicit verses. Not only Baha'u'llah's written Covenant to turn to the Master; and the Master's Covenant to turn to the House and the Guardian; but in addition Baha'u'llah's Covenant regarding the appearance of the next Manifestation.

badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Can anyone explain what "badaa" means? Is it that the will of God can change anytime? In other forum one said because of this badaa, the nextProphet may come BEFORE one thousand years. I think it is not possible. If yes: why yes?, if not: why not? Thanks, Hasan The information

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Yes, I believe this is the explanation the Hands gave for the ending of the Guardianship. Marleen Hasan Elias wrote: Can anyone explain what "badaa" means? Is it that the will of God can change anytime? The information contained in this e-mail and any

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Can anyone explain what badaa means? Is it that the will of God can change anytime? In other forum one said because of this badaa, the next Prophet may come BEFORE one thousand years. I think it is not possible. If yes: why yes?, if not: why not? Dear Hasan, I suppose you could say it

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Susan, thanks for answer. I think it is NOT possible (not because God is not able to do that, but because of His Will); I have other personal reasons, but they are not scholar reasons, they are very "mine". Anyway, your reasoning of responsibility is pretty valid for me. Also, I would like

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

I didn't know,what was that explanation based on badaa???M Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi: Yes, I believe this is the explanation the Hands gave for the ending of the Guardianship. MarleenHasan Elias wrote: Can anyone explain what "badaa" means? Is it that the will of God can

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Yes, I believe this is the explanation the Hands gave for the ending of the Guardianship. Marleen Dear Marleen, Actually they never did, though that would have been a logical explanation. The Remeyites claim that the Hands declared the Guardianship badaa, but they were not in the

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Susan, thanks for answer. I think it is NOT possible (not because God is not able to do that, but because of His Will); Dear Badi, Except badaa signifies a change in the Divine Will. So theoretically it would be possible. But given the strong language Baha'u'llah used in that regard, I

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

I hope that the Baha'is of the time will accept Him whenever He appears. Richard. I suppose you could say it was possible, but then we could not be held responsible for failing to follow Him given the fact that we were told to regard anyone who appeared before that time as a lying imposter.

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

They may not have said this publicly, but multiple Hands, including Ruhiyyih Khanum, seem to have accepted this explanation, and I believe some Persian Bahais were aware of this, but I cannot cite any Persian sources. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about Persian sources can comment. Is

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

) (Compilations, The Compilation of Compilations vol. I, p. 123) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:53 PM Subject: Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years? Yes, I believe this is the explanation

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

By the light of the surprising clarity of this prophecy, then: what would be the difficulty for people (most of them bahá'ís) in the year 2852-53? In another quote Bahá'u'lláh lamented about the next Prophet's sufferings. Dear Hasan, Saying that a prophet will not appear until the

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

So far I know the House said nothing about badaa (they said it was legally impossible to them designate another Guardian, according to 'Abdu'l-Bahá's Will and their own powers). That's correct. I personally think that the end of the line of living Guardians was a case of Badaa just as

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

They may not have said this publicly, but multiple Hands, including Ruhiyyih Khanum, seem to have accepted this explanation, and I believe some Persian Bahais were aware of this, but I cannot cite any Persian sources. Dear Marleen, Although we have no documentation on this it

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Dear Susan, you call "She" with capital S! uhmmm... you hope next Prophet be a woman?"She" or "He" whatever, I have no problems with it (but according to religious history, itcould be not a woman)my logic sense sayme that people will have many problems in one thousand years (about this

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

What a perfect example! ;-) Jeanine Hasan Elias wrote: Dear Susan, you call "She" with capital S! uhmmm... you hope next Prophet be a woman? "She" or "He" whatever, I have no problems with it (but according to religious history, itcould be not a woman)...

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

At 4:27 PM -0600 1/27/06, Hasan Elias wrote: By the light of the surprising clarity of this prophecy, then: what would be the difficulty for people (most of them bahá'ís) in the year 2852-53? In general terms, it will be just like previous times - people, including 'good Baha'is', will

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

In all past dispensations (the prophetic cycle), there were many signs, prophecies, indications, etc.,concerning the One to come at the time of the end, including where and how He would appear. He has come. I have found very littlethe Writings concerning the One followin notless than

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

At 10:22 PM -0500 1/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then, too, this is the day that shall not be followed by night. Yeah, but as theologian Nels Ferre has suggested, when the Sun gets too bright, we put up umbrellas. The guidance will be there (Universal House of Justice), but that

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Dear Susan, you call She with capital S! uhmmm... you hope next Prophet be a woman? LOL. Well, it would certainly explain the next Manifestation's suffering! She or He whatever, I have no problems with it (but according to religious history, it could be not a woman) Religious

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I thought it would make my point. ;-} What a perfect example! ;-) Jeanine Hasan Elias wrote: Dear Susan, you call She with capital S! uhmmm... you hope next Prophet be a woman? The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the

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The guidance will be there (Universal House of Justice), but that doesn't mean we'll follow it Dear Don, I'm not sure if the Universal House of Justice would maintain its authority once the next Manifestation appears. When Abdu'l-Baha was asked about the meaning of whoso layeth a claim to

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Maybe not all will follow it because they know the guidance will be there "until" the next Revelation, if I'm not wrong after that event, the House will be fallible. But, as the quote indicates the unity of followers is assured.All agreein that time it wont be easy for people to

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Dear Susan dont you think I believe women can't do the job.The women in Bah' Faith are the example of excellence, for instance we had Bahyyih Khanm who was at the headship of the Guardians affairs for almost a year (a perfect job!). [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi: Religious history is

Re: badaa: a Prophet before one thousand years?

Dear Susan, 1000 B.E. is only 2844 AD,the Aqdas's notes says we have to count from Islamic year nine = 15 October 1852 which match the period when Bah'u'llh was at Siyah-Chal. For solar years is from 15 October 2852 or from Ramadan 10th 2299 AH. Convert dates here: