Dear Brent,
Your wrote:
Ron, it's clear from your last word, where you have been reading.
Just as critical thinking is an important part of examination of revealed
religious truth, so is evaluation of what others write about religion. Where
exactly are they leading you? To where they
-- Original Message --
From: Brent Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Baha'i Studies bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:17:32 -
Let's face it, we can discuss this stuff for centuries, but it all comes
down to this. To anyone who
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:35:26 -0800, Ronald Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark, I was a Christian. There is no doubt in may mind than you are right on
this. To a Christian, who reads his Bible the same way as a Baha'i reads
our Writings, then
I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No
Gilberto,
At 03:19 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
Christians who focus on the above phrase no one comes to the father except
through me tend to be exclusivists. They believe that in all of history,
Jesus, in some form or another, is the only way to God.
They could be either exclusivists
Ron,
At 02:35 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
Let's face it, we can discuss this stuff for centuries, but it all comes down
to this. To anyone who reads the Bible the way we Baha'is read our Writings,
then Islam is false. To anyone who reads the Quran the way we Baha'is read
our Writings, it is clear
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 16:34:51 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ANYONE who believes in God, the Last Day and does righteous deeds, will
surely meet with their reward. They have no reason to fear and neither will
they grieve.
Your liberal interpretation of this concept,
Let's face it, we can discuss this stuff for centuries, but it all comes down
to this. To anyone who reads the Bible the way we Baha'is read our Writings,
then Islam is false. To anyone who reads the Quran the way we Baha'is read
our Writings, it is clear that Baha'u'llah is false. It can be
Gilberto,
At 05:22 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
Even non-liberal Muslims would agree that in other times and places people
got into heaven through believing in Moses, Jesus, Abraham, Noah, etc. and
not just Muhammad. Even non-liberal orthodox Muslims (like the Asharis for
instance) would say that
It seems to be suggesting that with God, God's speech exists in a form
beyond human language, but when God reveals that word to a particular
culture it comes out with particular sounds and letters in the form of
the scriptures we are familiar with.
Which to me suggest that on some level the Torah
Let's face it, we can discuss this stuff for centuries, but it all comes
down to this. To anyone who reads the Bible the way we Baha'is read our
Writings, then Islam is false.
Yet, if one is as fortunate, as was I, to read the Bible for understanding
without reference to what people have
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:17:10 -0600, Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto,
At 05:22 PM 1/13/2005, you wrote:
Even non-liberal Muslims would agree that in other times and places
people got into heaven through believing in Moses, Jesus, Abraham, Noah,
etc. and not just Muhammad.
I'm not sure exactly which point you are trying to make.
J: Forget it. Pretend I never wrote it.
Some of what is written doesn't necessarily ring true for me, and I'm not certainwhat other assumptions you might be making.
J:No other assumptions. Everything was layed out in the two emails.
I
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 04:25:26 -0800 (PST), JS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto:
I think there are many different differences of opinion between the typical
Christian and the typical Muslim and I honestly don't think that the typical
Christian's
biggest objection to Islam is the idea of
Gilberto,
At 12:06 PM 1/12/2005, you wrote:
I'm not blaming them. I'm describing them. All I'm saying is that the concept
of finality of revelation is not as essential, or emphasized, or as clear in
Christianity as it is in Islam. It's not the most common argument Christians
have against
In the Kitab-i-Iqan (pp. 83-84), Baha'u'llah makes a powerful and highly insightful proclamation. He states that if one were to ask a Muslim why the Christian failed to accept the Prophet Muhammad, the Muslim would respond that Muhammad did not fulfill the criteria of the Bible (i.e. verse Luke
I'm not sure exactly which point you are trying to make. Some of what
is written doesn't necessarily ring true for me, and I'm not certain
what other assumptions you might be making. I think there are many
different differences of opinion between the typical Christian and the
typical Muslim and I
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