Tim,
At 08:21 PM 1/20/2005, you wrote:
I think anyone can have a study circle, you don't need anyone's permission or
approval. It may be that such an unofficial study circle will not count,
but so what?
Whether they count is not, IMO, the major problem. It is the fact that Ruhi
has been
Susan,
I maintain that it is a job. And that the lsa is a
body who has to decide who is qualified and who is
not.
i have known qualified teachers, who could not teach.
Could not control a group. yet they were hired as a
teacher.
to me, personally, whether someone has done book 3 or
has a
It sometimes seems to me that the fundamental purpose of
study circles, namely spiritual transformation and
development of human resources, is lost in the concern
about whether a study circle counts.
Dear Tim,
I agree. But one is ineligible for certain institute courses if one has not
taken
I maintain that it is a job. And that the lsa is a
body who has to decide who is qualified and who is
not.
Dear Janine,
If what you are trying to say is that an LSA can establish any prerequisite
it wishes, I would agree. But when Ruhi books are made prerequisites for
certain types of service
It has not yet reached that level here in Ireland, as
far as I am aware. What things is one not eligible for
in the USA atthe moment if one has not done a certain
ruhi book?
much love,
janine
--- Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It sometimes seems to me that the fundamental
purpose of
It has not yet reached that level here in Ireland, as
far as I am aware. What things is one not eligible for
in the USA atthe moment if one has not done a certain
ruhi book?
Dear Janine,
I only know of two things that Ruhi was made a requirement for. One was was
homefront pioneering and the
Anybody can set up a study circle. We can always refer back to the UHJ letters to bakc that up.
To be a recognised ruhi facillitator, one has to do book 7 and in some countries, Ireland for example, this one cannot do before one has done book 1,2,3,4,6.
but to set up any study circle one which
Dear janine,
Thanks again for your reply. Talking about Adib Taherzadeh, I would like to
comment that I do admire him. I had an opportunity to meet him during my
pilgrimage in 1996 and I really did enjoy talking with him and listening to
him. In fact I should say that I have met quite a
Anybody can set up a study circle. We can always refer back to the UHJ
letters to bakc that up.
Dear Janine,
I know that, but it won't get counted as fulfilling any goals.
So if Ruhi is not working in the USA, and counsellors go around telling
things which are not based in truth, like that Ruhi
Janine:
You may be right that you might not be considered qualified to give
childrens classes if you have not done book 3. And that is a perfectly
legitimate decision of any LSA to make.
Dear Janine,
Here I cannot agree with you. There have been and there are excellent
children class teachers who
In a message dated 1/19/2005 10:37:21 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear Janine,Here I cannot agree with you. There have been and there are excellent children class teachers who have been doing a great job. To me it shows stupidity of a decision by an LSA to require all
Firouz,
I am sorry for your experiences. They do not seem to
be good.
A couple of years ago (2 I think) there was a
counsellor from Russia over in Ireland to attend a
non-Bahai conference. She told us that in her town the
LSA decided to offer the Ruhi book 1 as a personal
development course to
Dear Firouz,
Yes, time is a big thing. And talk about taking the
words of an ABM or Counsellor for holy... (sigh).
the first time I ever went to summer school, before
becoming Bahai, Adib Taherzadeh was there and he was a
counsellor. Most of us were camping. Every day Adib
woudl walk the
It can be very lonely being a Bahai.
I wish you much strength and love,
Janine van rooij
To be LONELY is almost essential in being a Bahai
Thou seest this Wronged One LONELY in exile: Where are the hosts of the
heaven of Thy Command, O Sovereign of the worlds?
(Baha'u'llah:
I would like to add a few of my personal observations about Ruhi in
Thailand. The emphasis during last 5 years or so have been on Ruhi Study
Circles, devotional meetings, and children classes here in Thailand
(specially Ruhi SC). In Yasothan in North East of Thailand where a Baha'i
school
But personally I did not enjoy the SC method of Teaching the
Faith.
Dear Firouz,
Don't confuse Ruhi with Study Circles per se. Ruhi is just the curriculum
which has been adopted in most areas for Study Circles.
Once when I disagreed about a given comment in one of the Ruhi books,
I was sort of
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