Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-24 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Fariborz, However, taken as a general mandate, one can interpret whosoever ariseth for the triumph of My cause can be interpreted as fellow believers as well. I would agree with this. Again, with the qualification of encouragement and support rather than serve. To be more explicit: we

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-24 Thread Evolvinghuman
Thank you. It's getting clearer. Explain to me the nuances of "serve" as compared to "encourage, support". I always understood service as a baha'i as to help/assist an endeavor. This ,of course, IMO, can take a lot of different forms including physically serving, financially aiding, morally

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-24 Thread Patti Goebel
As you can see you have some literal phrases in here... first duty... and serve those that have recognized. In my subsequent responses I've responded to what I thought was your interpretation of the found passage. Which does not, in fact, combine those two phrases of first duty or serve

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-24 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 11/24/2004 2:58:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Explain to me the nuances of "serve" as compared to "encourage, support". I always understood service as a baha'i as to help/assist an endeavor. This ,of course, IMO, can take a lot of different forms

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-24 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 11/24/2004 6:44:32 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was something to the effect that if someone (i.e.another believer) asked a Baha'i to do a service for the cause if is as ifBaha'u'llah (or maybe it was 'Abdul-Baha) Himself asked them to do it.

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-23 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Fariborz, Knowing how frustrating it can be to retrieve a special quote, I'm happy this is what you were looking for. However, if I may, I'd like to point out - in consideration of language barriers - And, without doubt you are much further advanced than I in mastering languages... To:

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-23 Thread Evolvinghuman
Dearest Sandra, Thanks for taking time out to look at this in detail. 1)I do agree that in the context of the address to a king it does not make sense to generalize it. However, taken as a general mandate, one can interpret whosoever ariseth for the triumph of My cause can be interpreted as

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-21 Thread Evolvinghuman
Is there a line somewhere in Aqdas or elsewhere that says after the Recognition one should serve those that believe? Fariborz __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-21 Thread Smaneck
In a message dated 11/21/2004 2:26:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a line somewhere in Aqdas or elsewhere that says after the Recognition one should serve those that believe? Not to my knowledge. Obedience to the Laws comes after recognition, not obedience to

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-21 Thread Sandra Chamberlain
Dear Fariborz, Personally, I cannot recall a phrase which implies ...after the Recognition one should serve those that believe... The closest would be directives to the Institutions to serve the servants. Otherwise, those references to serve that I've located seem to address the willingness

Re: posting question about Recognition Manifestation

2004-11-21 Thread Don Calkins
At 5:26 PM -0500 11/21/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a line somewhere in Aqdas or elsewhere that says after the Recognition one should serve those that believe? Fariborz __ The only thing I am aware of that ties recognition of the