[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
USB floopies are not general purpose devices. They have a fixed number of formats that work, and the rest do not. Warner On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 2:44 PM Wayne S via cctalk wrote: > Your troubles with USB floppy drives reinforces my own experiences. They > seem to work okay in windows using a

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Your troubles with USB floppy drives reinforces my own experiences. They seem to work okay in windows using a Microsoft written utility but not too well in dos or user written programs. It’s hit or miss as to if the program will see the usb floppy. However, using a builtin floppy always seems

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Hi Henry! You wanted a SETUP disk for a Deskpro/XE system, right?  Like SP1363 as listed here https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=76542 ?  I was able to do this in Dosbox-X no problem: mount the local directory with

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 14:54, Henry Bent wrote: > On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 17:12, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > >> So I'm working on restoring a Compaq DeskPro/XE system to allow me to >> use the 5.25 floppy to copy files from my 3.5 floppies which will come >> from my Windows 10 system so

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 at 17:12, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > So I'm working on restoring a Compaq DeskPro/XE system to allow me to > use the 5.25 floppy to copy files from my 3.5 floppies which will come > from my Windows 10 system so that I can extract on the Deskpro/XE using > teledisk the

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Install DOS and Format.exe on a 3.5 floppy Fire it up and when running QRST try selecting the "B" drive. That used to (on a single disk system) prompt you to switch floppies back and forth which *might* work, allowing me to write the image on

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
QRST does run without issues on DOSBOX, the problem is it can't see the concept of the "A" drive which seems to be a mapped share as opposed to a "physical dopey DMA device". The floppy controller on PC's was always weird as hell, I do remember that. CZ On 2/25/2023 7:29 PM, Wayne S wrote:

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Thank you! I'd appreciate it if it comes to that, but I'll give myself a week to find a solution here. All I need is a .img file or something I can burn to floppy with dd. And I have to replace that battery on the motherboard. Looks to be welded in, we'll see CZ On 2/25/2023 7:23 PM,

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Linux would be fine, however there doesn't seem to be a DOS emulator that emulates the ISA bus A: drive. I suppose Linux on a PC with that hardware might work, however the hardware in question is stuck at the "need to configure" which does require a DOS disk which can only be extracted by QRST

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Win 10 comes with cmd so do you need to use dosbox? Windows 10 does not have a 16 bit subsystem anymore. Doesn't work. As for creating a DOS bootable disk, I think the problem is that the low level disk access QRST wants is not availible on a USB floppy drive. So you need a "real" floppy and

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-26 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Feb 25, 2023, at 5:11 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > So I'm working on restoring a Compaq DeskPro/XE system to allow me to use the > 5.25 floppy to copy files from my 3.5 floppies which will come from my > Windows 10 system so that I can extract on the Deskpro/XE using

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-25 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Since, allowing for snail mail, it will probably be a week, i have a question. Can you run the qrst.exe program at all? Was thinking that it might be possible to extract the image to hard disk then use an image burning prog to write to the floppy eith needing 16 bit drivers. Sent from my

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-25 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Btw… here’s the link to the Qrst info… http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/Quick_Release_Sector_Transfer Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2023, at 16:23, Wayne S wrote: Yep. I can probably burn a floppy for you if you put the programs and data software somewhere i can get to it. I’ll try

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-25 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Yep. I can probably burn a floppy for you if you put the programs and data software somewhere i can get to it. I’ll try and then you can tell me where to send the floppies. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2023, at 16:17, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > >  >> >> I read that Qrst was

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-25 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I read that Qrst was just a file format. To quote The QRST disc image format was used by Compaq to distribute disk images of diagnostic software. The file QRST.EXE or QRST5.EXE would be supplied with the disc images to write them to a floppy drive. -So do you have the QRST programs available?

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-25 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
I read that Qrst was just a file format. To quote The QRST disc image format was used by Compaq to distribute disk images of diagnostic software. The file QRST.EXE or QRST5.EXE would be supplied with the disc images to write them to a floppy drive. -So do you have the QRST programs available?

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-25 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Also you might just create a dos 6 bootable floppy and boos dos from the “A” drive. Would thst work? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2023, at 15:17, Wayne S wrote: > > “ QRST under DOSBOX on Windows10 can't properly access a floppy even if > "mounted" with a -t floppy extension.” > It is a

[cctalk] Re: Getting QRST files onto a floppy (sigh)

2023-02-25 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
“ QRST under DOSBOX on Windows10 can't properly access a floppy even if "mounted" with a -t floppy extension.” It is a dosbox thing really? Win 10 comes with cmd so do you need to use dosbox? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 25, 2023, at 14:12, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > So I'm