Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-23 Thread Vasilij Schneidermann
Hello Matt, > But, here we are, over 10 years later and IUP is still not available > as an official Debian package and it is a burden to deploy. It is also > still not supported on Mac. The last I've heard on the topic was that the project has support for the latest Ubuntu rather than Debian,

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-23 Thread Thomas Chust
Hello, wxWidgets seems to be slowly dying these days. Support for anything else than the classic desktop platforms is virtually non-existent and even things like subpixel scaling support are flaky at best. Creating bindings for a large C++ codebase like wxWidgets also seems like a major

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-23 Thread Thomas Chust
Hello, nothing is "wrong" with Tk, I guess — different UI toolkits just have different strength 路 Combining Tcl/Tk with CHICKEN is a complex deployment scenario, and I think it works best on desktop platforms with nice package managers. If that's what you are targetting, the Tcl/Tk look and feel

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-23 Thread Matt Welland
Thanks for the suggestion elf. More than ever I recognize how important it is to make these decisions carefully and I appreciate input from the list. I'll sketch out an analysis of my decision and then gauge wx in that light. Maybe this will be of use to others, if not, my apologies for the email

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-23 Thread elf
Perhaps something more like wx would be better? Excellent cross-platform support, including all necessary support structures, and iirc it can give you lower-level graphics access too? Plus, of course, there are already bindings for a large num of languages, and a guide to writing new bindings,

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-23 Thread Matt Welland
Tk is great, no doubt about it. I still miss Eric Gallesio's STk. The reasons I decided against tk include: 1. Clunky 1980's look and feel. (i) 2. No IOS or Android support. (ii) 3. I seemed to fight the widget layout model a lot when I used it. (iii) 4. Two of the projects I'm

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-22 Thread elf
Erm, what's wrong with the tk bindings, which should work everywhere already? -elf On 23 March 2023 02:36:43 GMT+02:00, Matt Welland wrote: >That would be great Thomas. For my part, I'll start working on my project >using what I can, learning Godot along the way. When you get to working on

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-22 Thread Matt Welland
That would be great Thomas. For my part, I'll start working on my project using what I can, learning Godot along the way. When you get to working on this please let me know how I can help. Regarding the approach, I like the tooling to generate a loadable module idea. I figure leverage as much of

Re: Need GUI (again), gauging interest in an alternative approach.

2023-03-22 Thread Thomas Chust
Hello, a combination of CHICKEN and Godot sounds very interesting! I've been meaning to experiment more with that engine for a while, and with Godot 4.0 just out the door the time is probably perfect to try out the new extension APIs. I'm not completely sure how the CHICKEN/Godot hybrid should