Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-11-02 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: I gave this another go after reading Robin's report of success and (embarassed face) I managed to send an email using the fastmail smtp service That's good news. No idea what was different; all I can think is I hit on some permutation I didn't try

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-31 Thread David Matthews
As a side note. When i select TLS, i'm not sure it's being saved. If i recall correctly, the qtopiamail config file just said I believe it does get saved - you have to watch out when you edit via the gui, the encryption setting for IMAP does not get loaded from the file, so you have to set

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-31 Thread robin
hi, just as it was mentioned in this thread before I can confirm that with the web.de server which stores my mail only certain combinations of the login worked to give me the option to actually send my message (I think it took me about 20mins to figure out which ones...) br robin

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-30 Thread David Matthews
Hi Brian GTA04 over wifi, connecting to my IMAP server with TLS. Thunderbird on my laptop works, and Mutt on the gta04 works, but qtopiamail doesn't. I get this error message: new Qtopia: socketError: 13 : Error during SSL handshake: error:14094410:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-30 Thread Brian DeRocher
Dave and all, If qtopiamail uses libssl, we should brace ourselves for crappy error messages :) I forgot to mention that my IMAP server uses a certificate signed by cacert.org. The signing certificate cert is in the ca-certificates package. I verified the certificate using a command like

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-30 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 03:58:33 AM Brian DeRocher wrote: I can dive into some source code. Can someone point me to some directions on getting a qtmoko environment set up to compile packages? If qtmoko follows normal debian conventions, i should be able to diagnose some stuff. Hi,

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-29 Thread Brian DeRocher
Neil, I wanted to share my email issues, even if they are semi-related to this thread. On 10/24/2012 08:05 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: It would be good to have some more data points. Can anyone else report success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on - Freerunner - GTA04 on 2G-only (the default)

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-27 Thread dmatthews.org
I gave this another go after reading Robin's report of success and (embarassed face) I managed to send an email using the fastmail smtp service No idea what was different; all I can think is I hit on some permutation I didn't try before - I am using different encryption type and authentication

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-25 Thread David Matthews
Hi Boudewijn From memory the config file is /home/root/Trolltech/qtopiamail.conf - something like that any way. The issue I have is not with imap - which works fine, rather with sending mail - I have no GTAO4, so this is on a freerunner. I beleive Neil does not have the problem on the GTAO4 -

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-25 Thread robin
this is qtmoko v48, freerunner, email via encrypted WPA wifi: imap acount (imap.web.de) with port 993 and encryption ssl and smtp (smtp.web.de) with port 25 and encryption none + auth = plain Retrieving is straight forward. sending somehow only works if I go to the message in my outbox and then

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-25 Thread David Matthews
the message in my outbox and then press send message again. otherwise it wont leave the phone. Interesting - it sounds like you've been a bit more persistent than me - at least tangentially. I do believe I've always given up at the first fail - I'll give it another look. Would you agree the

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-25 Thread robin
I haven't tried earlier versions so I have no idea if there is a change in how the mail program behaves. all in all I am not using it that often as it is quite cumbersome to use. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org writes: You say that you can't duplicate the issue - by that do you mean you *can* send email from a freerunner on qtmoko v48? - I had the impression you were more involved on the GTA04 and may not have a freerunner any longer. FYI I was running my GTA04 on

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread David Matthews
I didn't investigate the details very closely, but perhaps this is a clue - i.e. that the email problem you see with v48 on Freerunner is to do with the low 2G data rate. Neil, nope. all the testing I did was using my home adsl either by wifi or routing through the desktop machine over usb

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org writes: I didn't investigate the details very closely, but perhaps this is a clue - i.e. that the email problem you see with v48 on Freerunner is to do with the low 2G data rate. Neil, nope. all the testing I did was using my home adsl either by wifi or

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Boudewijn
On Wednesday 24 October 2012 14:21:23 David Matthews wrote: It would be good to have some more data points. Can anyone else report success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on - Freerunner - GTA04 on 2G-only (the default) - GTA04 on 3G (requires patching to change AT_OPSYS=0,2 Yes

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Neil Jerram
Boudewijn wankelwan...@yahoo.com writes: On Wednesday 24 October 2012 14:21:23 David Matthews wrote: It would be good to have some more data points. Can anyone else report success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on - Freerunner - GTA04 on 2G-only (the default) - GTA04 on 3G

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-24 Thread Boudewijn
On Wednesday 24 October 2012 23:07:37 Neil Jerram wrote: Boudewijn wankelwan...@yahoo.com writes: On Wednesday 24 October 2012 14:21:23 David Matthews wrote: It would be good to have some more data points. Can anyone else report success/failure with QtMoko v48 email, on - Freerunner

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-08 Thread David Matthews
Hi Neil Try next? To be honest I've given up - I'm only mentioning the issue on the basis someone might want to fix it. You say that you can't duplicate the issue - by that do you mean you *can* send email from a freerunner on qtmoko v48? - I had the impression you were more involved on the

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-07 Thread Neil Jerram
Prompted by David Matthews' reports, I've improved my understanding of SMTP authentication mechanisms. Little of this is specific to QtMoko or even smartphones, but I think it's worth covering anyway in the context of this thread. When you want to send email via an SMTP server that isn't in your

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-07 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP : Auth: sent: AUTH LOGIN Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP : response: 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6 Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP : AuthUser: sent: ZG1hdHRoZXdzQGluYm94Lmx2 I notice (by decoding this) that you've

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-07 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neal I pretty much agree with what you say When you want to send email via an SMTP server that isn't in your own immediate network, the client needs to authenticate itself to the server. Otherwise that server would be an open relay, which is a big but you neglected the option to allow

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-07 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neal - In the next window “Account name” You must write in your username, for example, if your e-mail address is supp...@inbox.lv then Your “Account name” will be “support”. Could that be the problem? I.e. your ID should be just dmatthews? No - although I'm pretty sure

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-07 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: The nub is that from v2x up to v35 - that's all it ever required - minimal fiddling at the most. I'm pretty sure this is not a PEBKAC - there's some change somtime since v35 that has introduced a problem :-) Fair enough. What would you like to try

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-03 Thread dmatthews.org
On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:07:32 +0100 Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: Thanks - interesting thought, but it doesn't do the trick, although I suspect it was part of the problem - the errors no longer include moans about certifcates. Not sure if v35 included the ca-certificates - but I

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-10-03 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 10/1/12, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Sunday, September 30, 2012 05:21:43 PM Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: I have big problems starting booting up proper. After finally attaching the debug cable, I noticed that the kernel is 3.4.0-gta04 but under /lib/modules/ there is only

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-02 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: Here's some more smtp debugging - I'm now using the mail.inbox.lv server which supports unencrypted and TLS access Trying port 587 with TLS:- Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-STARTTLS^M Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN^M Sep 24

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-10-01 Thread Radek Polak
On Sunday, September 30, 2012 05:21:43 PM Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: I have big problems starting booting up proper. After finally attaching the debug cable, I noticed that the kernel is 3.4.0-gta04 but under /lib/modules/ there is only 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48. Do I need to first boot

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-24 Thread dmatthews.org
Here's some more smtp debugging - I'm now using the mail.inbox.lv server which supports unencrypted and TLS access Trying port 587 with TLS:- Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-STARTTLS^M Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN^M Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES^M Sep

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-23 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil, Radek However, I think that point is not far above the raw SMTP level, so I wonder if it would help to enable SMTP logging and see what that shows? To do that, go into Home, Settings, Logging; choose YES twice; then choose Categories... from the context menu, and check SMTP; then

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-23 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: 3) Finally I attempt unencrypted access to the fastmail server - this is what definitely works in v35 (I tried it just a few days ago):- Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP : newConnection Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP : Open SMTP connection Sep

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-20 Thread David Matthews
Hi Neil Thanks - I will give that a try. It occurred to me also that since the fastmail smtp server offers a choice of ssl, tls and unencrypted logins on various ports, it will be easy to try the options other than ssl. I'll also do that. Regards More likely errorOccurred, I guess.

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-20 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil However, I think that point is not far above the raw SMTP level, so I wonder if it would help to enable SMTP logging and see what that shows? To do that, go into Home, Settings, Logging; choose YES twice; then choose Categories... from the context menu, and check SMTP; then back all

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-19 Thread David Matthews
Hi Neil For the mail sending problem, what exactly are the diagnostics? For example, what is it that makes you write Socket error above? That's part of the error the neo reports when I try to send mail. I've had a further thought though - that I'm running the original flawed version of v48

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-19 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 09:55:11 AM David Matthews wrote: Hi Neil For the mail sending problem, what exactly are the diagnostics? For example, what is it that makes you write Socket error above? That's part of the error the neo reports when I try to send mail. I've had a

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-19 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil, Radek I spent some time on what I believe are the email issues. First thing I did to ensure I'm not going mad is the flash back to v35. As I remembered, I can create an account without bothering with correct settings, put the qtopiamail.conf in place and everything works. Next I

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-19 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: Hi Neil, Radek I spent some time on what I believe are the email issues. First thing I did to ensure I'm not going mad is the flash back to v35. As I remembered, I can create an account without bothering with correct settings, put the

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-18 Thread David Matthews
For me, on GTA04, email is working almost perfectly; I'm also using IMAP. maybe this is just a problem on GTA02? anyone else confirm? For sending, can you ping your SMTP server from the Freerunner? yes For Get all mail, note that this is visible only on the Email page, not on the parent

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-18 Thread robin
thanks as always for the work! I have one issue with the new alarm turning into vibrate only after 60 secs: If I put an alarm and turn the phone completely oft (GTA02 SD-card version) the phone starts nicely to boot at the right time, but now the boot time is about 75 secs, so once everything

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-18 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:33:46 PM robin wrote: thanks as always for the work! I have one issue with the new alarm turning into vibrate only after 60 secs: If I put an alarm and turn the phone completely oft (GTA02 SD-card version) the phone starts nicely to boot at the right

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-18 Thread robin
hi radek, thanks for the quick answer. Can one easily manually edit the file where you put in the ringing timeout after 60 secs? regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-18 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 01:57:15 PM robin wrote: hi radek, thanks for the quick answer. Can one easily manually edit the file where you put in the ringing timeout after 60 secs? It's not configurable yet... It has to be implemented. Regards Radek

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-18 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi I found a single area with (what appears to me to be) regressions - email I have a copy of a known good qtopiamail.conf which I just put into place after a slapdash account creation. I can retrieve the folder list, but the Fetch all mail option only sporadically appears so the imap inbox is

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-18 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: 2. Socket error on trying to send mail - I was pretty certain this was failing too quickly to actually be going out and trying to authenticate. I have generally used the fastmail.fm smtp server on the phone - not sure why, although possibly because it

Re: QtMoko v48 - fixed SMS sending

2012-09-17 Thread Griera
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 09:42:59 +0200 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Thanks a lot!! Regards. Hi, you can download new tarbals with fixed SMS sending bug, or you can install just the updated packages: For freerunner: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/debian/qtmoko-neo_48-1_armel.deb

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-17 Thread Radek Polak
On Sunday, September 16, 2012 08:41:14 PM francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: FBreader doesn't work properly, when I launch it I see two messages on screen: Upgrading to the new version and then Loading book, Please wait. After that, the FBreader main screen appears for less then a second and

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-17 Thread dmatthews.org
I've not used qtmoko or the neo for some while, maybe this feedback is helpful. Overall v48 seems pretty good, stable, reasonable battery life and most of the core stuff works pretty well (great work Radek!):- *send and receive phone calls - call quality ok *send and receive sms *connect to

Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-17 Thread Neil Jerram
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org writes: I found a single area with (what appears to me to be) regressions - email I have a copy of a known good qtopiamail.conf which I just put into place after a slapdash account creation. I can retrieve the folder list, but the Fetch all mail option only

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-16 Thread francesco . devita
Hi FBreader doesn't work properly, when I launch it I see two messages on screen: Upgrading to the new version and then Loading book, Please wait. After that, the FBreader main screen appears for less then a second and it disappears to the QtMoko homescreen. FBreader does not close but

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-15 Thread Frank
Am 12.09.2012 20:38, schrieb Radek Polak: Hi, QtMoko v48 is out now, ... * mokofaen is now default theme (credits to Joif for this nice theme) Hi, many thanks to Radek. I just updated my GTA02 from V47 to V48-1. Maybe I found a little bug: - click house (left, second from top) -

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-14 Thread Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani
Hello Joif, all, Hi I upgraded from v47 to v48 on my GTA02 and now I'm experiencing a grave problem. if I send a sms, it does not arrive to the recipient. Also, after sending the sms I lose all the phone functionalities, i.e. I can't even make or receive a call. I had to restart the neo

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-14 Thread David Matthews
Hi Radek I just installed the v48 (not upgraded from v47) on the uSD, I confirm the problem with the sms. Hi, i have reverted commit that made the problem [1]. You can download rebuilt libraries to fix the problem here [2]. I'm guessing those are for GTA04? Is there somewhere we can

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-14 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday, September 14, 2012 11:55:59 AM David Matthews wrote: I'm guessing those are for GTA04? They should be quite the same, but maybe not... Is there somewhere we can get the version 47 tarball for freerunner? I guess we can just use the files from there? I am now rebuilding the

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-14 Thread francesco . devita
By the way, what does the four symbols below he calendar on the home of mokofaen stand for? * provider * ?/? (number over number) * consumption * ? (empty) * provider * GSM cell location, the number has to be correlated to some name, it is a function not yet developed * consumption *

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread Griera
On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 20:38:38 +0200 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, QtMoko v48 is out now, you can download images for Freerunner and GTA04 from here [1][2]. For more info about QtMoko please visit our homepage [3]. Thanks!!! This release is mainly bug fix release. Here is list

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread francesco . devita
Hi I upgraded from v47 to v48 on my GTA02 and now I'm experiencing a grave problem. if I send a sms, it does not arrive to the recipient. Also, after sending the sms I lose all the phone functionalities, i.e. I can't even make or receive a call. I had to restart the neo but the issue persists

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread francesco . devita
Hi I upgraded from v47 to v48 on my GTA02 and now I'm experiencing a grave problem. if I send a sms, it does not arrive to the recipient. Also, after sending the sms I lose all the phone functionalities, i.e. I can't even make or receive a call. I had to restart the neo but the issue

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread Griera
On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:49:44 +0200 francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Hi I upgraded from v47 to v48 on my GTA02 and now I'm experiencing a grave problem. if I send a sms, it does not arrive to the recipient. Also, after sending the sms I lose all the phone functionalities, i.e. I

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread Radek Polak
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 03:49:44 PM francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: I just installed the v48 (not upgraded from v47) on the uSD, I confirm the problem with the sms. The problem is also present on GTA04. In v47 it is working so it will be probably one of v48 commits... Trying to

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread Radek Polak
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 03:49:44 PM francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: I just installed the v48 (not upgraded from v47) on the uSD, I confirm the problem with the sms. Hi, i have reverted commit that made the problem [1]. You can download rebuilt libraries to fix the problem here [2].

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Radek scp-ing those two replacement libs into /opt/qtmoko/lib/ reliably breaks an install onto freerunner nand - qtmoko immediately freezes and if you reboot will not restart. I tried this 3 times - reflashing the rootfs, then I realized that the system is up (you can ssh in) but no

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread Peter Viskup
I just did the same and I'm stuck with frozen device. Would be probably good to make v47 available for downloading. Hopefully I have v47 on my laptop -- Peter On 09/13/2012 11:24 PM, dmatthews.org wrote: Hi Radek scp-ing those two replacement libs into /opt/qtmoko/lib/ reliably breaks

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread Neil Jerram
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz writes: i have reverted commit that made the problem [1]. [1] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/commit/b98287747b785bb72954edc76105592d6c9404d4 Well, sorry everyone if it was my DTMF-related change that caused this regression. But, Radek, did you notice that

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread Radek Polak
On Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:54:40 PM Neil Jerram wrote: Well, sorry everyone if it was my DTMF-related change that caused this regression. No problem, everyone makes bugs. But, Radek, did you notice that there were some other QSerialPort changes that got included somehow in that

Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-12 Thread francesco . devita
Il 12/09/2012 20:38, Radek Polak ha scritto: Hi, QtMoko v48 is out now, you can download images for Freerunner and GTA04 from here [1][2]. For more info about QtMoko please visit our homepage [3]. This release is mainly bug fix release. Here is list of changes since v47: * working alarm