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Hi Steve, others,
About that 8GB micro-SD card (which someone confusingly called a miniSD
card earlier in this thread), steve wrote once upon a time:
| I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
| Actually Michael tests and I say
On 18 Apr 2008, at 23:12, Shawn Rutledge wrote:
I would like to see future devices using a 3.5mm jack. IMO the
important thing is high-quality music, whereas if you just want to
talk on the phone, Bluetooth headsets are more popular these days.
I haven't found a bluetooth headset which
Stroller wrote:
On 13 Apr 2008, at 17:44, steve wrote:
Not sure I understand what you mean by final Inventory.
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add
some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
Many people have voiced there opinion to me
On 14 Apr 2008, at 19:09, steve wrote:
...
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors.
Yellow blue!!
Stroller.
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On 13 Apr 2008, at 17:44, steve wrote:
Not sure I understand what you mean by final Inventory.
The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add
some
other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
Many
On 4/18/08, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 14 Apr 2008, at 19:09, steve wrote:
...
Well I apologize for killing the orange/white model. When I
get to place where I can figure what colors everyone wants and in what
ratios, then I can easily add colors.
Yellow blue!!
: Monday, April 14, 2008 3:49 PM
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steve wrote:
USB cable is in.
Hello all,
Sorry to keep that up but I see three kind of potential cables and I'm
not sure which one you're talking about
We all? At least not me.
There are a bunch of wired headsets, headphones, I never used one of it.
I also haven't ever seen somebody walking around with a wired headset in the
last 3 years.
Imho that's one of the most useless accesoires that comes with mobiles.
If I want to listen to music, I'll
On 4/18/08, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We all? At least not me.
There are a bunch of wired headsets, headphones, I never used one of it.
I also haven't ever seen somebody walking around with a wired headset in
the last 3 years.
Imho that's one of the most useless accesoires that comes
thomasg wrote:
We all? At least not me.
There are a bunch of wired headsets, headphones, I never used one of it.
I also haven't ever seen somebody walking around with a wired headset in
the last 3 years.
Imho that's one of the most useless accesoires that comes with mobiles.
If I want to
A headset is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to me.
I need to be able to talk whilst I drive sometimes.
Of course, if you make it an optional accessory I will (reluctantly) pay
extra to purchase it, but a headset has been included in my last 3 phone
purchases.
You do realize the cost of the
What you wrote, Gilles, is a problem. I can't imagine, that FIC produced
headsets that would fit for the neo only (why should they?), so I strongly
assume that the headset is a standard device. Maybe you should describe what
exactly didn't work, so we can try to figure out what the problem is.
I
thomasg wrote:
What you wrote, Gilles, is a problem. I can't imagine, that FIC produced
headsets that would fit for the neo only (why should they?), so I
strongly assume that the headset is a standard device. Maybe you should
describe what exactly didn't work, so we can try to figure out what
I noticed only one headphone getting sound when I was using a 3.5-2.5
adapter with a motorola phone a while ago. I would just jiggle the
connection or reinsert the 3.5 slowly and it would work. Maybe you're
experiencing the same thing from a similar crappy adapter.
On Apr 18, 2008, at
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Richard Reichenbacher
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I noticed only one headphone getting sound when I was using a 3.5-2.5
adapter with a motorola phone a while ago. I would just jiggle the
connection or reinsert the 3.5 slowly and it would work. Maybe you're
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Hi Gilles,
i got a headset with 2,5mm with my HTC SDA2 (SDAII). Probably you might
find one when searching with this.
For example here: http://www.mygift.com/htc/htc-SDA-headset.html
Greetings Bastian
Gilles Casse schrieb:
| thomasg wrote:
|
mini usb to USB.
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Hi.
Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) -- usb (pc
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steve wrote:
USB cable is in.
Hello all,
Sorry to keep that up but I see three kind of potential cables and I'm
not sure which one you're talking about :
- First is male USB A = freerunner (USB mini AB, I believe
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Mark Arvidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, but will it blend?
Ahah :)
for those who didn't get it... : http://www.willitblend.com/
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:05:10PM +0200, David Samblas Martinez wrote:
Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being
able to customice your case as a lot of comercial
moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female
work college has his laptop, movile phone and mp3 all
in
Hey
there is nothing more dearly than a happy developer
dancing after a successfull test. :)
Regarding colors, maybe in the massmarket phase being
able to customice your case as a lot of comercial
moviles will be a plus to fashion victims ( My female
work college has his laptop, movile phone and
Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and
start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors.
Bastian Muck pravi:
What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and
cut them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 06:32:09PM +0200, Peter Kraker wrote:
Someone with a knack for business should simply grab those CAD files and
start manufacturing replacement cases in gazillion different colors.
I thought the same. So I've picked an injection moulding firm more
or less at random,
For the one off, you could check out http://www.emachineshop.com
They do injection molding of various plastics in many colors.
I'm not sure if you could make a profit by having them make a ton of
cases and then reselling them or not.
-Steven
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Hugo Mills [EMAIL
>From the involvement I've had with injection molding the costs of
material (ie the plastic) per piece it not very expensive, it's the
mold tool that is the expensive part.. For one project I'm involved in
I think the mold tool was something like $10KUSD.. This is a production
quality (read
Hmm in this goal, why not Openmoko.com to sell blank case, non finished
ones, witout any painting, just to be customized/adapted later ?
I don't think only with painting, but integrate an eye cam or other
expansion pack, or wifi external connectors for example...
Even one water proof why not :)
I guess people could get it airbrushed if it was a matte plastic case,
maybe shipped with primer already painted on it.
Seems like a lot of work, but it would really fit well with the whole
customization thing.
Maybe FIC could start selling DIY at-home plastic injection molding kits, too ;)
On
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From the involvement I've had with injection molding the costs of material
(ie the plastic) per piece it not very expensive, it's the mold tool
steve wrote:
One goal of freeing the CAD , freeing the flesh of the phone, was to
enable others to seize these opportunities.
So, the CAD files for the FreeRunner are out there, before it has even
shipped. I think this decision is
underappreciated.
The per piece cost of plastic is small. Go
This is EXACTLY why we freed the CAD files
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Hmm in this goal, why not Openmoko.com to sell blank case, non finished
ones, witout any painting, just to be customized/adapted later ?
I don't think only with painting
Davey
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From the involvement I've had with injection molding the costs of material
(ie the plastic) per piece it not very expensive, it's the mold tool
Pricing and PVT update
I've never used emachineshop, but I will ask around. Perhaps some of my
friends have.
Michael
steve wrote:
I love emachineshop.
I thought of approaching them to do some kinda co promotion. Maybe
Michael Shiloh can weigh in here.
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Thanks Lon.
Good comment.
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For quite a while now I've been reading
- The second is a female USB A = freerunner. It's used for host
mode (for example, plugging a usb key or keyboard to the neo. I've
got no idea if it is easy to find that one in a shop.
i want this cable so that i can plug in a MIDI interface and use my
neo as a sequencing platform.
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
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|
| Is this the mini-usb (on OM side) -- usb (pc side), or the Y usb cable
| for usb host?
Last I heard it is miniUSB - USB A plug only.
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USB cable is in.
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My opinion:
+ USB-cable
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)
2008/4
Of Ortwin Regel
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One
The Openmoko Freerunner: MacGyver Edition
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:21 AM, clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The pouch is very nice and closes securely with its drawstring.
Inside it I put a piece of vinyl floor tile; and face the Neo1973
screen to the tile, so that sharp or hard items in my
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Ivo Anjo wrote:
Finally, the miniSD card, DEFINITELY leave it off,
unless you
: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:55 AM
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
Still, poor Freerunners... :'(
On 4/14/08, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One minute
, 2008 1:33 PM
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| My daughter requests pink.
|
| Maybe the only one.
|
| I suggest we make them all white and include a pack of magic markers, so
| you can color them any color you wish, or decorate
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maybe mokoninja could get behind the scenes and snap some pics or vids..
On 15/04/2008, nickd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi first post :) i don't suppose as part of the open nature of the
production that the few sick people (myself included
it's a cool idea.
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Calling it a snuff video is a little disturbing, but I too would like
and PVT update
I wanna see a video of that happy dance xD
--- steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
Actually Michael tests and I say wow and great and then do the happy
dance.
He'll be back soon. We will revert on this.
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I wanna see a video of that happy dance xD
--- steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
Actually Michael tests and I say wow and great and then do the happy
dance.
He'll be back soon
In a harlequin pattern no doubt.
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I do! Well, actually I probably
On 4/15/08, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Happy dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypnlOJjC368
Stop that, I've been Rick Rolled enough these days... :P
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has somebody eaten a clown this morning at breakfast? ;-)
Of course noone really wants a pink freerunner, does someone?
I do! :D (just kidding)
I recently was at a dinner with former colleagues. The subject turned
to OpenMoko
what you guys actually want to see me dance?
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wtf?
This is an hocky movie
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:49 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what you guys actually want to see me dance?
Oh hm... YES! xD
and also some of my female (and even male) friends asked about
coloring: the preferred ones:
-red
-pink (yes, really)
-blue
-kiwi-green
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On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has somebody eaten a clown this morning at breakfast? ;-)
Of course noone really wants a pink freerunner, does someone?
I do! :D (just kidding)
I recently
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What about colored stickers? I think it could be cheap to design and cut
them to fit at the neo. I guess this could be a solution to many whishes
for special colors. But this feature could be sold by a thirdparty-shop.
And I guess, that it would
charge me.
|
|
|
|
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| My daughter requests pink.
|
| Maybe
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My daughter is sitting right next to me and says yes, she absolutely wants
one in pink. She also wants one multicolored. See, the white-and-markers
idea isn't such a bad one, eh?
Michael
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I wanna see a video of that happy dance xD
--- steve escribió:
I think Michael and I were supposed to test the 8GB version.
Actually
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
My daughter is sitting right next to me and says yes, she absolutely
wants
one in pink. She also wants one multicolored. See, the white-and-
markers
idea isn't such a bad one, eh?
Michael
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2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
let me know what you think. My inclination is Open accessories.
I agree to Open accessories.
Thinks I would like to see in the box:
- Charger
- USB-Cable
- Headset
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
- Pouch
-
On Monday 14 April 2008 00:13, steve wrote:
There will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10. ( in 850 and 900 versions of
course)
This seems like an odd decision to me, is it just a limitation of the store
software you are using? Even OS Commerce can handle price breaks.
The same thing happens
Robin Paulson wrote:
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
personally, i'd want:
*a modified charger (if one is made)
*a pouch
included, and that's it
I think for a phone that's heavily touch-based, a stylus is a must-have.
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impedances,
which made it sound like many standard headsets would not give good audio,
because they have
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote:
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a
normal
I think I'm going to have to completely disagree on this one. I RARELY plug
anything into a computer to simply charge it. I'd venture almost never.
The idea that I HAVE to plug a device into a computer to charge it is
completely ridiculous to me. I'd bet my experience as a product marketer
that
if it could work with Weston UM2 :) or any Shure ;)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on
Reading your email I wonder if there is a misunderstanding here. A USB
charger is not a device that gets plugged into a computer but it is
simply a device that supplies power on a USB-like plug. It can be a wall
charger or a car charger.
If you go to ebay and type in usb charger you get plenty
That's really great news!
And by the way, Steve, thank you for the constant updates (and the
whole bunch of updates of today), it feels great beeing informed!
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Christ van Willegen
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Steve, all,
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:01 AM, steve
Hi,
I spoke to my wife (typical end user).
She expects a
- computer independent charger
- headset
- pouch
Best regards
Dirk
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I agree
I love to buy my NEO soon, lets hope they don't break them xD
ramsesoriginal skrev:
That's really great news!
And by the way, Steve, thank you for the constant updates (and the
whole bunch of updates of today), it feels great beeing informed!
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Christ
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
to it),
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
to it), I think it should be included.
I also agree with including the charger.
Hi,
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:56:10 +0100
Ivo Anjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:36 +0200, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
to it), I
count on my vote on this one, Y cable must be a must
;)
--- ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
escribió:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Ivo Anjo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for
powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is
Well, you'll get used to it :)
USB-Charging is fine. You can use a standard usb-wallcharger as well as any
mini-usb cable or usb-carchargers and so on.
I have some devices that can only be loaded over usb and some who can also
use a proprietary charger. I mostly use usb, because I have a dozend
2008/4/14, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[...] the
great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger.
I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that
you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it
works. There is a small program out there
Ivo Anjo wrote:
Finally, the miniSD card, DEFINITELY leave it off, unless you get a
really really really good deal, because you can buy very high-capacity
nowadays, so it doesn't make much sense to pay for 512mb or such on the
neo, and then buy a multi-gb one (I am definitely getting one of
steve wrote:
[...] your feedback
Here are my 2 cents:
Must have:
Neo ;)
Stylus
Optional:
Charger (Would be useful, at least for end user, so he's sure he doesn't
stress a normal usb charger too much (500mA))
Not want:
Headset (Most of them are crap and I don't even open the plastic bag
I would say that it must have:
- the phone
- the fancy stylus
- headset
Optionally:
- extra battery
- Y-cable
Not:
- SD card
- charger
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IIRC, the custom cable is actually part of the charger, i.e. charger
and cable is one unit.
If you think about it, this makes sense: If the cable were a separate
unit, you might plug the cable by accident into a charger (or worse,
your laptop) that could not deliver 1 Amp, the phone would
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But is the software going to depend on a stylus? If so, it should be
made very clear when purchasing that the customer will need to get one.
Even better would be to include
I think the only thing in that list I would want with the Freerunner
is the USB cable (as I don't have many mini-USB cables). I already
have a nice bluetooth headset and MicroSD card. Any of those included
with the Freerunner would be useless for me and would seem a waste of
money to me,
One minute of silence for the dead freerunner, death to ensure a product
free of defects :)
2008/4/14, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The last of DVT testing is I think complete. These are destructive
tests.
Where we try to break the phone.
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Not providing SD card could take off taxes about private copy or other
bullshits like that from RIAA and friends... as I said in a previous mail.
To me charger should be provided, with stylus, headset and pouch at least.
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On ma, 2008-04-14 at 13:29 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
I agree, I'll buy one soon too, but what's the maximum capacity actually
supported (I've seen the wiki, but there are no so much tests)? I'd like
to buy an 8Gb Mini-SD card...
I have a 8 GB one (Sandisk) in my Neo right now.
On Mon Apr 14 12:58:04 CEST 2008 Jay Vaughan wrote:
But you still have to hack up a cable to make it work. Thus, it
should be included in the Freeruner, in my opinion ..
It is not necessary to modify a cable to fast charge the device. All
that is needed is something like [1] (which costs US$3)
It is not necessary to modify a cable to fast charge the device. All
that is needed is something like [1] (which costs US$3) and the
software from [2] and you have fast charging without modifying a cable
or relying upon the folks from OpenMoko to get into the accessory
business.
I want this
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk about the software release
late Next week and let you all know what made it into the first
I totally agree with you, Marco!
But I would like to add two important things:
-The Pouch is more important than needed for me, it's essential. It
will always be there, when I'm not using it, I also don't want a
no-name pouch, because I like that one with the word openmoko on it,
because it is
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:47:38 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on
after
this, but the image we commit is one we will stick with for a while.
Don't ask me what a while is. I'll talk
I am one of those crazy people who use the neo 1973 as their everyday phone,
and I NEVER use the pouch. Does any current every day user use the pouch or
lanyard?
I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant or
something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back
My opinion:
+ USB-cable is essentially! I think the nice FreeRunner won't look nice
with a self-made cable...
+ pouch
+ lanyard (this is something Moko-specific like the pouch...)
- no stylus
- no SD-card (1/2 GByte are too small, more are too expensive)
- no headset (some want big ones, others
I think my main concern is I see USB Cable and USB Charger used
interchangeably in these messages. They are not one and the same. So which
is that we are talking about?
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:29 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Reading your email I wonder if there is a
Hi,
I think you are right.
There are two main opinions on getting the phone.
The geek way and the end user way.
Geeks have other needs or wishes than end users have.
What about addon packs to a basic phone with charger?
Dirk
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On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:02 PM, NeoSleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:47:38 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
steve wrote:
1. A final release of software to the factory. Bug Fixing will go on
after
this, but the image we commit
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 10:33 -0500, Bobby Martin wrote:
I lost the stylus (it's way too cool; if you forget it at a restaurant
or something, you don't get a call asking if you want it back :-)
They are $3 a piece w/ shipping included if you take ten.
For example this one here:
I'm in the same position as Bobby. I use my Neo as my primary phone as
well as my digital media player. I haven't touched the lanyard or the
pouch since I took them out of the box.
But I also don't use my stylus. My stylus was neat in the beginning,
because I could use it to play with my cats,
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To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
On Monday 14 April 2008 00:13, steve wrote:
There will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10. ( in 850 and 900 versions of
course)
This seems like
discussion
Subject: Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
let me know what you think. My inclination is Open accessories.
I agree to Open accessories.
Thinks I would like to see in the box:
- Charger
- USB-Cable
- Headset
I also would like
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