On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
What about the task of running a short program for a brief duration, e.g.
from cron scripts? Is using su considered acceptable?
e.g. /etc/cron.daily/spamassassin on wheezy has numerous references to su.
There are two reasons
El Mon, 12 de May 2014 a las 10:53 PM, Brian May
br...@microcomaustralia.com.au escribió:
On 13 May 2014 15:44, Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com wrote:
I found another use of su that may need to be added to your list.
rabbitmq (oddly) wraps itself up in a shell script,
On 13 May 2014 16:15, Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com wrote:
It looks like it already does this. I assume the user running the command
manually would not hurt anything, correct?
I think the user running the command manually would have the same problems.
Especially as it is a daemon.
Hi!
On Mon, 2014-05-12 at 22:50:39 -0700, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
There are two reasons I use su in /etc/cron.daily/spamassassin. One is
to change uid/gid, and the other is to reset the shell environment to a
base state. The need for this was highlighted in bug 738951. I doubt
that this is a
On Mon, 12 May 2014, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
What about the task of running a short program for a brief duration, e.g.
from cron scripts? Is using su considered acceptable?
I thought s-s-d is for starting dæmons, not for things
Le 13 mai 2014 03:01, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org a =C3=A9crit :
Am 13.05.2014 02:54, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Yeah, that's just what I was thinking. Any software that doesn't
honor an invoke-rc.d policy is RC-buggy anyway, and it would be good
to catch and fix that.
Could you also open a
Le 13 mai 2014 17:42, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org a écrit :
Le 13 mai 2014 03:01, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org a =C3=A9crit :
Am 13.05.2014 02:54, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Yeah, that's just what I was thinking. Any software that doesn't
honor an invoke-rc.d policy is RC-buggy anyway,
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:11:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
The name start-stop-daemon would suggest this is inappropriate for cron
jobs, is that an invalid assumption I made?
Perhaps a better name could have been chosen, in
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 01:21:08AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:11:10PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
The name start-stop-daemon would suggest this is inappropriate for cron
jobs, is that an invalid
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
AFAIK, d-i disabling of s-s-d is a historical workaround for packages
not using invoke-rc.d (back in the days before it was a Policy must).
Maybe it's time to drop this diversion of s-s-d?
Yeah, that's just what I was thinking. Any software that
Am 13.05.2014 02:54, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
AFAIK, d-i disabling of s-s-d is a historical workaround for packages
not using invoke-rc.d (back in the days before it was a Policy must).
Maybe it's time to drop this diversion of s-s-d?
Yeah, that's
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 03:01:10AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
Am 13.05.2014 02:54, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
AFAIK, d-i disabling of s-s-d is a historical workaround for packages
not using invoke-rc.d (back in the days before it was a Policy must).
El Mon, 12 de May 2014 a las 6:01 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org
escribió:
Am 13.05.2014 02:54, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
AFAIK, d-i disabling of s-s-d is a historical workaround for
packages
not using invoke-rc.d (back in the days before it was a
On 13 May 2014 15:44, Cameron Norman camerontnor...@gmail.com wrote:
I found another use of su that may need to be added to your list. rabbitmq
(oddly) wraps itself up in a shell script, /usr/sbin/rabbitmq-server, which
asserts the user is root or rabbitmq, and drops down to rabbitmq if it is
Le 13 mai 2014 03:01, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org a écrit :
Am 13.05.2014 02:54, schrieb Russ Allbery:
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
AFAIK, d-i disabling of s-s-d is a historical workaround for packages
not using invoke-rc.d (back in the days before it was a Policy must).
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
On 11 May 2014 03:13, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
su does a bunch of things that are perfectly appropriate for something
that creates a new login. That's its job.
I am still a bit confused, isn't this only when you
On Sat, 10 May 2014 23:11:10 -0700, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org
wrote:
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
The name start-stop-daemon would suggest this is inappropriate for cron
jobs, is that an invalid assumption I made?
Perhaps a better name could have been
Le 11/05/2014 09:22, Marc Haber a écrit :
Systemd (as upstart) sidesteps this problem to a large degree by handling
uid switching as a native directive, avoiding the need to call out to a
separate command.
Just out of curiosity: What do I do when I convert an init script that
parses a mode
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:56:17AM +0200, Adrien Clerc wrote:
In systemd, the ExecStartPre directive can be helpful. But the
documentation doesn't say if it is executed as the user defined in the
User directive, or as root. I guess the latter is done, but I'm too lazy
right now to test it :)
previously on this list Steve Langasek contributed:
Yes. This has been the case for su in Debian since 1999, and to do
otherwise would break a variety of configurations where session setup is
required in order for, e.g., the su process to have access to the files of
the target user.
It
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