#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign
On Sun, May 11 2014, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted
to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so*
far down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another
language
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
On 11 May 2014 03:13, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
su does a bunch of things that are perfectly appropriate for something
that creates a new login. That's its job.
I am still a bit confused, isn't this only when you
On Sat, 10 May 2014 17:49:46 +0100, Dimitri John Ledkov
x...@debian.org wrote:
Users of sysvinit, are of two categories, those that reverted to or
wish to stay with sysvinit or those that simply use the default.
It is desired to migrate simply use the default to the new default,
systemd, if that
On Sat, 10 May 2014 11:55:19 +0200, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Marc Haber:
Will it be the norm that the binaries replacing well-used shell
scripts on early boot only implement the features that Lennart deemed
useful? That would be a major turn-off, adding to the fact that early
On Sat, 10 May 2014 15:28:34 +0200, Martin Steigerwald
mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
I did not make a technical statement about systemd. I understand the reasons
why Tech-CTTE chose it and while I am skeptical about the attitude of some
upstream and Debian developers regarding handling bug reports
On Sat, 10 May 2014 18:00:02 +0200, Laurent Bigonville
bi...@debian.org wrote:
Le Sat, 10 May 2014 16:00:39 +0200,
Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers
adopt an attitude of never break userspace like the kernel
developers do.
Sure that the attitude I don't care
On Sat, 10 May 2014 19:13:01 +0200, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages, sometimes in
subtle ways, and mostly because the code was in some way non-standard.
You don't complain about that, do you? So why is systemd different?
On Sat, 10 May 2014 20:57:28 +0100, Ben Hutchings
b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 19:53 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13:
Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages,
For end users? I don't think so.
If a
On Sat, 10 May 2014 19:47:10 +0100, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
wrote:
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote:
A couple of quotes from your mail:
I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of
almost all systemd's defenders.
You're not looking for flames? You're
On Sat, 10 May 2014 22:13:01 +0200, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
I also would not expect an end user to add su foo -c /do/whatever to
/etc/rc.local. Your opinion may differ, that's OK.
Especially people who are not as Debian-centric as we are tend to do
exactly this. Simply because
On Sat, 10 May 2014 23:11:10 -0700, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org
wrote:
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:12:08AM +1000, Brian May wrote:
The name start-stop-daemon would suggest this is inappropriate for cron
jobs, is that an invalid assumption I made?
Perhaps a better name could have been
On Sat, 10 May 2014 15:38:24 -0700, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org
wrote:
I consider it of the highest importance that the transition to systemd not
break running systems.
+1
Some of the regressions introduced are going to turn out to be bugs in
systemd. Some of them are going to turn out to
On Sat, 10 May 2014 16:27:00 +0200, Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org
wrote:
This is the part you should _NEVER_ do. It is YOUR responsibitiliy, as a
maintainer (you are the maintainer, right?), to make sure that a bug that is
reported in the wrong place gets sent to the right place. It is GOOD that
Le 11/05/2014 09:22, Marc Haber a écrit :
Systemd (as upstart) sidesteps this problem to a large degree by handling
uid switching as a native directive, avoiding the need to call out to a
separate command.
Just out of curiosity: What do I do when I convert an init script that
parses a mode
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:56:17AM +0200, Adrien Clerc wrote:
In systemd, the ExecStartPre directive can be helpful. But the
documentation doesn't say if it is executed as the user defined in the
User directive, or as root. I guess the latter is done, but I'm too lazy
right now to test it :)
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de (2014-05-11):
Just curious as the maintainer of another package using su in an init
script since 2001, how am I supposed to start a non-root process from
an init script?
start-stop-daemon has:
-c, --chuid username|uid[:group|gid]
Mraw,
KiBi.
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 08:57:29 schrieb Marc Haber:
IMVHO opening a PAM session in an initscript is a bad idea from day
one, as you don't know which modules are being called, as it can create
bogus audit trails or cause other subtile issues.
Just curious as the maintainer of another
Hi,
Marc Haber:
systemctl status tells you quite clearly what went wrong, journalctl
shows you what the program printed in case it did get started … and so on.
If the system boots.
If it does not, you cannot stick '-x' into an init script either.
I haven't yet seen a system where booting
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 21:36:42 schrieb Laurent Bigonville:
Le Sat, 10 May 2014 19:13:01 +0200,
Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de a écrit :
Hi,
[...]
Telling Go away, the bug is elsewhere is just not an approbiate
reaction for developers of a low level system component.
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 15:38:24 schrieb Steve Langasek:
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 04:00:39PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
The root cause of this bug is in the initscript of dirmngr that us using
su instead of start-stop-daemon.
su is starting a PAM session which then call
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 00:55:43 schrieb Kevin Chadwick:
previously on this list Steve Langasek contributed:
Using systemd breaks something that worked for probably a decade or
longer
before however long that su is in that init script. So on what account
do
you call calling su
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 09:13:09 schrieb Marc Haber:
On Sat, 10 May 2014 16:27:00 +0200, Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org
wrote:
This is the part you should _NEVER_ do. It is YOUR responsibitiliy, as a
maintainer (you are the maintainer, right?), to make sure that a bug that
is reported in
❦ 11 mai 2014 08:58 +0200, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de :
Mind you, I am not defending the handling of this specific bug; certainly
the systemd people's attitude is somewhat … let's call it abrasive …
at times.
And this abrasive attitude is hurting. It's hurting systemd, it's
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On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:22:02 +0200, Matthias Urlichs
matth...@urlichs.de wrote:
That is true, but it's even simpler if there's no script to stick '-x' into
in the first place, because PID1 knows perfectly well how to do it on its
own and will give you a complete status, including failed
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:04:15 +0200, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org
wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de (2014-05-11):
Just curious as the maintainer of another package using su in an init
script since 2001, how am I supposed to start a non-root process from
an init script?
On Sun, 11 May 2014 11:54:37 +0200, Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org
wrote:
? 11 mai 2014 08:58 +0200, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de :
Mind you, I am not defending the handling of this specific bug; certainly
the systemd people's attitude is somewhat … let's call it abrasive …
at
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 06:38:15PM -0700, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
I would like to solicit the opinion of the developers about the
value of adding Guile support to the default make package, at the
expense of two smallish additional dependencies.
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
On Du, 28 apr 13, 17:24:49, Anti Thesis wrote:
Package: wmfs2
Severity: wishlist
WMFS2 is a lightweight and highly configurable tiling window manager for X
written in C. wmfs2 is a free software distributed under the BSD license. it
can be drive from keyboard or
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
On Du, 28 apr 13, 17:27:34, Anti Thesis wrote:
Package: dictator
Severity: wishlist
Dictator is a program for on-screen reading of text files, developed with the
intention of making it easier to read some of the fine electronic texts
available on the net, such
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 12:53:39 schrieb Marc Haber:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:04:15 +0200, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org
wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de (2014-05-11):
Just curious as the maintainer of another package using su in an init
script since 2001, how am I
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
On Du, 28 apr 13, 17:33:32, Anti Thesis wrote:
Package: alopex
Severity: wishlist
Alopex is a tiling, tagging, window manager with status bar tabs.
License: GNU GPL
URL: https://github.com/TrilbyWhite/alopex
Alternative URL:
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: retitle -1 RFP: lxc-docker -- create lightweight, portable,
self-sufficient containers
On Mi, 21 aug 13, 13:44:53, Johannes Graumann wrote:
Package: lxc-docker
Version: 0.5.3-1
Severity: wishlist
Hello,
As per http://www.docker.io/: Docker is an
Marc Haber wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:04:15 +0200, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org
wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de (2014-05-11):
Just curious as the maintainer of another package using su in an
init script since 2001, how am I supposed to start a non-root
process from an
]] Martin Steigerwald
DESCRIPTION
The su command is used to become another user during a login
session. Invoked without a username, su defaults to becoming the
superuser. The optional argument - may be used to provide an
environment similar to what the user
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On Sb, 10 mai 14, 18:56:24, Holger Levsen wrote:
Having these bugs rott in a corner of the BTS almost nobody ever looks at is
a
disservice to our users. IMO there should be 0 bugs open against
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=
To also bring some numbers to this:
$
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On 05/11/2014 03:18 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2014 19:47:10 +0100, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
wrote:
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote:
A couple of quotes from your mail:
I find myself appalled at the rude and
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*
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org
* Package name: libpackage-constants-perl
Version : 0.04
Upstream Author : Jos Boumans
* URL : https://metacpan.org/release/Package-Constants
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+
Programming Lang:
On May 11, Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org wrote:
Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish,
since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again,
and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not
unsolvable, but messy,
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 03:47:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
This one.
The systemd package contains other dbus services that you don't want to try
to exclude from a desktop system; and libpam-systemd provides necessary
integration with policykit on those same systems.
So basically what
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Hi,
Martin Steigerwald:
Yet the su manpage clearly states that su doesn´t open a new login session.
Does not.
The manpage states that su is meant to change your UID _during_ a login session.
If there is no such thing, the fact that it creates a new session for you
should not be too surprising.
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 06:56:24PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
I believe all those bugs should be either reassigned to emacs23 (and soon 24)
or just be closed with an informal message, also offering to reopen and
reassign to emacs23/24 if applicable. [...]
Closing them would be a disservice
On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote:
Hi,
is someone processing the items on the Alioth tracker?
There are currently 184 reuqests open, some trivial requests already
since two years (like [1]).
I filed a ticket there a month ago, and still did not get any
response yet.
What is
Hi,
Marc Haber:
start-stop-daemon has:
-c, --chuid username|uid[:group|gid]
Will a script doing this be portable to other Linuxes or even BSD
Unices?
No. BSD has daemon(8). If you want portability, you probably need to check
what's available. (start-stop-daemon, daemon (on BSDs),
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On Sun, 11 May 2014 13:16:43 +0200, Martin Steigerwald
mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 12:53:39 schrieb Marc Haber:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:04:15 +0200, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org
wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de (2014-05-11):
Just curious as the
On Sun, 11 May 2014 13:47:39 +0200, Laurent Bigonville
bi...@debian.org wrote:
For other distributions (and other Unix based OS) most of (all?) the
initscripts are already different anyway.
Is it right to force that?
Greetings
Marc
--
-- !! No courtesy
On Sun, 11 May 2014 14:50:55 +0200, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
There is no way to avoid the userspace.exe blob Debian is soon made of.
To be fair, the major Linuxes will soon be made of that. Red Hat wants
it that way.
Greetings
Marc
--
-- !! No
* Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de [140511 16:09]:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 13:16:43 +0200, Martin Steigerwald
mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 12:53:39 schrieb Marc Haber:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:04:15 +0200, Cyril Brulebois k...@debian.org
wrote:
Marc Haber
* Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de [140511 16:12]:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 13:47:39 +0200, Laurent Bigonville
bi...@debian.org wrote:
For other distributions (and other Unix based OS) most of (all?) the
initscripts are already different anyway.
Is it right to force that?
This is already
Hi,
Am Sonntag, den 11.05.2014, 15:58 +0200 schrieb Daniel Pocock:
On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote:
Hi,
is someone processing the items on the Alioth tracker?
[...]
Other people have had problems with alioth too:
- write permissions on VCS directory for new projects
and by
2014-05-11 15:55 GMT+02:00 Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 14:50:55 +0200, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
There is no way to avoid the userspace.exe blob Debian is soon made of.
To be fair, the major Linuxes will soon be made of that. Red Hat wants
it that way.
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk
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Quoting Daniel Pocock (2014-05-11 15:58:50)
On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote:
is someone processing the items on the Alioth tracker?
Thanks for raising that general question here, Ole. I have been
wondering too.
Other people have had problems with alioth too:
[details snipped]
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On 05/11/2014 10:21 AM, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
2014-05-11 15:55 GMT+02:00 Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 14:50:55 +0200, Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de wrote:
There is no way to avoid the userspace.exe blob Debian is
Hello,
I wish racoon/ipsec-tools could stay for just a little longer. I'd like
some time to evaluate it, against the *SWAN implementations, for
GNU/kFreeBSD jessie. IPSEC has not been enabled yet in Debian default
kernels, but it is a personal goal to have it in the jessie release.
When I last
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org wrote:
Hi,
Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0]
can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license.
Note that lintian detect these naked (not embeded) profile by default.
Since it's something that not
]] Daniel Pocock
On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote:
What is the reason that the processing there is so slow? Is there a way
to change that?
I think it's quite clear and has been for a while that we need more
active admins for Alioth.
Other people have had problems with alioth too:
The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm writes:
Not for all eternity, but probably for as long as any significant number
of people who are in a position to observe and participate in (or at
least jump into) such a discussion have those concerns, yes.
Meanwhile, many of the nice, polite, calm, and
Marc Haber wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 13:16:43 +0200, Martin Steigerwald
mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 12:53:39 schrieb Marc Haber:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:04:15 +0200, Cyril Brulebois
k...@debian.org
wrote:
Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de (2014-05-11):
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 15:39 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 06:56:24PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
I believe all those bugs should be either reassigned to emacs23 (and soon
24)
or just be closed with an informal message, also offering to reopen and
reassign to
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 03:38:24PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
As the maintainer of the pam package in Debian, I assure you: this is a bug
in dirmngr. System services should not (must not) call interfaces that
launch pam sessions as part of their init scripts. su is one of those
interfaces.
On Sun, 11 May 2014 18:48:46 +0200, Laurent Bigonville
bi...@debian.org wrote:
Marc Haber wrote:
This will also cause double effort since Debian needs special handling
that no other distribution obviously needs.
Could you please explain me how it could cause double effort as the
initscript the
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Bastien ROUCARIES
roucaries.bast...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Jérémy Lal kapo...@melix.org wrote:
Hi,
Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0]
can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license.
Note that
previously on this list Steve Langasek contributed:
Yes. This has been the case for su in Debian since 1999, and to do
otherwise would break a variety of configurations where session setup is
required in order for, e.g., the su process to have access to the files of
the target user.
It
severity 747535 serious
thanks
Please Tollef :(
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 09:00 +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2014 20:57:28 +0100, Ben Hutchings
b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 19:53 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote:
* Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13:
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 18:48 +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
Marc Haber wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 13:16:43 +0200, Martin Steigerwald
mar...@lichtvoll.de wrote:
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 12:53:39 schrieb Marc Haber:
On Sun, 11 May 2014 10:04:15 +0200, Cyril Brulebois
k...@debian.org
previously on this list Russ Allbery contributed:
by the non-stop sniping (for *months* now) by people like Kevin Chadwick,
Well I have only responded to incorrect statements and have tried to
ignore any that are not from debian developers and may not affect the
future of debian but you can't
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed:
I haven't yet seen a system where booting with init=/bin/bash works but
booting systemd in emergency mode does not.
Have you added me to a killfile?
I mentioned such a bug as happened in Arch testing in this very thread
or do you mean a
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed:
Will a script doing this be portable to other Linuxes or even BSD
Unices?
No. BSD has daemon(8). If you want portability, you probably need to check
what's available. (start-stop-daemon, daemon (on BSDs), sudo)
I can tell you
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On 11/05/14 18:26, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Daniel Pocock
On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote:
What is the reason that the processing there is so slow? Is there a way
to change that?
I think it's quite clear and has been for a while that we need more
active admins for Alioth.
]] Daniel Pocock
On 11/05/14 18:26, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Daniel Pocock
On 08/05/14 12:27, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr wrote:
What is the reason that the processing there is so slow? Is there a way
to change that?
I think it's quite clear and has been for a while that we need more
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 06:29:22PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 15:39 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
[...]
So, the natural thing to do would be to reassign them.
I think the natural thing to do is to close with a message explaining
how to reopen and reassign if the bug
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Programming Lang: Python
Am 11.05.2014 19:37, schrieb Helmut Grohne:
I trust you to be technically right on this. Still the number of
packages getting this wrong is stunning[1]. Therefore I'd argue that
[1] http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=su+-c+path%3Adebian%2F+path%3Ainit
If I counted correctly, there are 5
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 06:56:24PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
Having these bugs rott in a corner of the BTS almost nobody ever looks at is
a
disservice to our users. IMO there should be 0 bugs open against
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=
If that's really desirable, I
Am 10.05.2014 08:06, schrieb Norbert Preining:
One of the things that systemd breaks (not checked on Debian, but
on other systems), is that screen session are killed when logging out
of the ssh session.
This is a *fundamental* change in behaviour, and does break a lot
of setups and systems.
El Sun, 11 de May 2014 a las 1:49 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org
escribió:
Am 11.05.2014 19:37, schrieb Helmut Grohne:
I trust you to be technically right on this. Still the number of
packages getting this wrong is stunning[1]. Therefore I'd argue that
[1]
Am 11.05.2014 22:49, schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 11.05.2014 19:37, schrieb Helmut Grohne:
I trust you to be technically right on this. Still the number of
packages getting this wrong is stunning[1]. Therefore I'd argue that
[1]
On Sat, 10 May 2014, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014, Rob Browning wrote:
If we can, I'd like to remove emacs23 from unstable/testing before the
freeze. To make that possible, any relevant packages will need to
migrate to emacs24, or just include support for emacs24.
Le Sun, May 11, 2014 at 03:58:50PM +0200, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
Other people have had problems with alioth too:
- write permissions on VCS directory for new projects
- mailing list creation requests waiting for admin approval
Thanks Daniel for raising the issue.
For mailing lists, I
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Le samedi 10 mai 2014 à 13:37 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit :
This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of copyright. Isn't an ICC
descriptive, rather than creative?
According to the International Color Consortium, profiles provide
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On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 21:38 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
I'm not disagreeing, I think we're providing a much poorer service level
for Alioth than what we should do. Sadly, I don't have the motivation
to spend much time there nowadays.
I have for years hosted my own projects in a minimalistic
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Russell Stuart wrote:
sourceforge is closed source.
That is no longer the case, sourceforge folks implemented a new
codebase called Allura, are running it, released it under the Apache
license and continue to develop it as an Apache Software Foundation
project.
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 08:20:33PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
Can we please separate the bugs in this thread: This one is about
dirnmgr not network-manager and gdm3 dragging in systemd as init
default, #747535.
Speaking of that, I made a suggestion that AFAIK fixes the issue, which isn't
in
On 11/05/14 09:18, Marc Haber wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2014 19:47:10 +0100, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk
wrote:
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote:
A couple of quotes from your mail:
I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of
almost all systemd's defenders.
On 10/05/14 00:50, Russ Allbery wrote:
we should also prepare for that situation
and ensure that any switch of an init system via package installation
results in a critical debconf warning so that no one is caught by
surprise.
This has the advantage of future-proofing against any later
Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez clo...@igalia.com writes:
On 10/05/14 00:50, Russ Allbery wrote:
we should also prepare for that situation and ensure that any switch of
an init system via package installation results in a critical debconf
warning so that no one is caught by surprise.
This has
Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes:
If the order of the dependencies of libpam-systemd is switched, so it
becomes systemd-shim | systemd-sysv, the result will be:
- If systemd is not installed, systemd-shim will be installed and the
original init system will continue functioning.
- If
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 08:06:14PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
One of the maintainers of systemd says that otherwise he don't thinks
this behavior is unsuitable for release: https://bugs.debian.org/747535#46
This, however, *is* the wrong way to have this discussion. Arguing over
whether
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
RC bug severity has an important function in blocking package migrations
to testing. If someone is concerned that a particular regression in
behavior is sufficiently severe that it should block the new version of
the package from testing, they
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 09:10:21AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
The plain fact:
Using systemd breaks something that worked for probably a decade or longer
before however long that su is in that init script. So on what account do
you call calling su in an init script a bug? It may not be the
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