Re: SLIP not working?

1996-08-02 Thread Andrew Howell
Karl Ferguson writes: Hi Everyone... I've compiled SLIP into the kernel (2.0.10), however I get this following message in /var/log/daemon.log: Aug 1 10:30:49 orion /sliplogin[319]: attaching slip unit sl0 for karl Aug 1 10:30:49 orion /sliplogin[319]: /etc/slip.login sl0 9600 319

Re: XF86 betas (Re: D68K: The next step...)

1996-08-02 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mr Stuart Lamble writes: annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages (dpkg barfs at the postinst and

Re: f2c-960717-0 uploaded to master

1996-08-02 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Right, I know that lapack-linux website too. Note gcc-2.7.0 and g77-0.5.17 were used, more recent ones are available. g77 got better with 0.5.18, but also slower (according to some very casual measurements I did on one piece of code). Also, Jacob Schiotz doesn't say anything about compiler

Re: POSIX 1387.2 (package-management)

1996-08-02 Thread Michael Gaertner
On Wed, 31 Jul 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 1996, Michael Gaertner wrote: Ever heard of this standard for unix-package-management? How should we deal with this? How does one get a copy? I can not help you - to get this you have to be a groupmember or you must pay for it. I

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-02 Thread Fernando
I think it would be better to change the name of the Mercury Compiler to something like mercc. The reasons are: 1) Minimal disturbance to current debian users. They now use mc to launch Midnight Comander. 2) Seniority (?). Midnight Commander took the name first (within Debian,

Re: Overwriting include files

1996-08-02 Thread David Engel
Mr Stuart Lamble writes: Ok. There is a library available, libelf (currently version 0.5.2), which is required by a program I was idly toying about with (Eli). I'm contemplating packaging up Eli, which would imply packaging up libelf as well. Go ahead and package libelf. It's been on my

Re: Quasi-free development tools

1996-08-02 Thread Sven Rudolph
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Browning [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Leland Olds [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Do we have anything the links to motif?) mosaic (NCSA Mosaic) does. I only provided a statically linked version yet. When I package a released version of Mosaic I should create both

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-02 Thread Erick Branderhorst
Not completely alone---I'd prefer prompting about /usr/local. Why? Because /usr/local on all our machines here (not just debian) is an nfs-mounted directory, and typically mounted readonly or root-squash so that I know nothing on the client machines is going to be able to diddle with it.

XF86 betas (Re: D68K: The next step...)

1996-08-02 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
llucius wrote: Actually, I've not gotten to The Next Step yet anyway. I finally bit the bullet and downloaded XFree86 (whew!), compiled it, and am now going through all the X related packages. Speaking of X, as a member of the beta team (XFree86), I have access to the source code for the

Re: Perl vs Python vs ....

1996-08-02 Thread Brian C. White
Dan Stromberg wrote: For this reason we decided that Perl would be on our base disks, and that packages could use it (well, the subset that's on the base disks) in their preinst/postrm. Packages which want something else must Depend on it and may only use it in their postinst/prerm.

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-02 Thread Warwick HARVEY
Well, it's been a while, so lets add: imap-client and imap-server to the virtual package names list. Sure thing. I'm not familiar with imap though, so could you give me a description for these to go in the list? On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest in

sudo_1.4.4-1

1996-08-02 Thread Michael Meskes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Date: 02 Aug 96 09:09 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: Michael Meskes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: sudo Version: 1.4.4-1 Binary: sudo Architecture: i386 source Description: sudo: Provides limited super user privileges to specific

Re: Perl vs Python vs ....

1996-08-02 Thread Brian C. White
I'm sure C and Assembler fit cryptic too. Just think how much further advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever been invented. And how much further would the industry be, if C had been typesafe (or if some other, typesafe language had been used)? The

Re: XF86 betas (Re: D68K: The next step...)

1996-08-02 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Mr Stuart Lamble writes: annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages (dpkg barfs at the postinst and configuration stages), or

Re: Perl vs Python vs ....

1996-08-02 Thread Dan Stromberg
Brian C. White wrote: Dan Stromberg wrote: There's clearly a place for a stronger scripting language, despite the argument posed above. It's just very sad that it should be perl. perl really fits into many people's stereotypes of unix as inherently cryptic monster, very neatly. I'm

Bug#3998: xemacs problems

1996-08-02 Thread Michael Meskes
Package: xemacs, xemacs-support, xemacs-widget Version 19.14-1 1) xemacs overwrites files from package emacs without having a 'replaces' line. 2) xemacs is not configured because it depends on xemacs-support which conflicts with emacs. Michael -- Michael Meskes |_

Bug#3999: nfs module fails to load

1996-08-02 Thread Andrew G Wood
Package: kernel Version: 2.0.6 I recently updated from debian 1.1 - kernel version 2.0.0 - to 1.1.3 by installing the new package in base/kernel-image-2.0.6_2.0.6-0.deb (plus the updated dpkg and kbd). Rebooting the machine showed that all was working apart from the nfs module failing to load

Bug#4002: base wipes out utmp wtmp

1996-08-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Package: base Version: 1.1.0-14 The installation of this package wipes out the file /var/run/utmp and creates /var/run/wtmp which really should be in /var/log. -- Debian GNU/Linux 1.1 is out! { http://www.debian.org/ } A. B = True B. A = False Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~}

Bug#4000: emacs can't initialize x window

1996-08-02 Thread Erick Branderhorst
Package: emacs Version: 19.31-2 I load hilit19.el in my .emacs but when not under X this error occurs. Loading hilit19... Error in init file: error: X windows are not in use or not initialized Erick

Bug#4001: w segfaults on empty utmp

1996-08-02 Thread Herbert Xu
Package: procps Version: 1.01a-1 This isn't really a problem as utmp usually should not be empty but still w should not segfault. The reason I stepped on this is because the base package wipes out the utmp file.

Bug#4004: procinfo breaks without modules

1996-08-02 Thread shields
Package: syslinux Version: 1.20-0 On a kernel without module support: $ procinfo can't open file /proc/modules: No such file or directory -- Shields, CrossLink.

Bug#3901: dotlock should be setgid mail

1996-08-02 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
A couple of days ago, Lars mentioned I suggest staying with rwxrwxrwt. with respect to the permissions for /var/spool/mail. Mine is: drwxrwsr-t 2 mail mail 1024 Jul 31 13:08 /var/spool/mail/ I couldn't find the debian package that installed this directory, so I couldn't figure

Bug#4003: minor typo in dchanges

1996-08-02 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Package: dchanges Version: 3.4 If dchanges finds an old style file name, it gives the following messages: Deb file ok: libelf-dev_0.5.2-1_i386.deb Deb file ok: libelf_0.5.2-1_i386.deb WARNING: old style file name: libelf-0.5.2-1.tar.gz should be: libelf_0.5.2-1.deb WARNING: old style

Bug#3996: rdate.8 refers to adjtime(2)

1996-08-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Package: netstd Version: 2.05-1 It should refer to adjtimex(2), I believe.

Bug#3984: NIS writes error message to STDERR

1996-08-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Brian C. White) wrote: Package: nis Version: 1.20-1 I having problems with cron reporting the following error should the NIS server be unavailable. yp_first: clnt_call: RPC: Remote system error This is very annoying as I will get mail every minute or two when cron tries to

Bug#3989: `w' produces corrupted output

1996-08-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Package: procps Version: 1.01a-1 -chiark:~ w 2:13pm up 17 days, 12:23, 12 users, load average: 0.31, 0.20, 0.14 USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT richard ttyp0mojave.elmail.co 9:24am 26.00s 0.65s 0.65s -bash pjb1008 ttyp2ash.eng:0.0

Bug#3994: ae won't deinstall

1996-08-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Package: base Version: 1.1.0-14 I'd like to be able to remove `ae', but it won't deinstall. It should be possible to remove ANY package if I really want to. I don't like it when I'm treated like a child by the packaging system.

Bug#3990: xdm-errors location not what FSSTND says

1996-08-02 Thread Michael Gaertner
Package: xbase Version: 3.1.2-9 FSSTND R1.2 writes in chap. 5.3.5 to place xdm-errors in /var/lib/xdm/. This is not the location xdm-errors get logged by default in above package. Suggestion: change /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config in line DisplayManager.errorLogFile: to DisplayManager.errorLogFile:

Bug#3986: inconsistency between base and sysvinit packages!

1996-08-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Carlos Carvalho) wrote: The newer base packages create /dev/tty* with permission rw-rw. This causes an error when you try to open an xterm/rxvt window. They quit with couldn't open a pseudo-terminal msg. I don't know whose fault it is. However, the newest sysvinit has this command

Bug#3991: dselect has confusing and bizarre interface

1996-08-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Package: dselect Version: 1.12.2 dselect is more complicated than it needs to be. Anyone who has used the package selector for RedHat can understand why people like it so much. I like having a versatile interface such as the one dselect offers, but it shouldn't be so incompatible keystroke-wise

Bug#3995: perl docs are unreadable

1996-08-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Package: perl Version: 5.003-2 /usr/doc/examples/perl total 32 drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 1024 Jul 23 02:09 . drwxr-xr-x 27 root root 1024 Jul 26 12:13 .. -r--r- 1 root root 192 Jul 1 14:23 ADB.gz -r--r- 1 root root 567 Jul 1 14:23

Bug#3993: users can't umount user mounts

1996-08-02 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Package: mount Version: 2.5j-1 The transcript should explain the problem pretty well. I believe the problem is the different between the options line in the fstab and the options listed by `mount', but I haven't had any time to examine the problem further. There is also a 2.5k version of mount.

Re: New virtual packages suggestion (make)

1996-08-02 Thread Warwick HARVEY
Brian C. White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose to add the following virtual packages: - gnu-makeuseful for packages like kernel-package and my new compress-package (not yet released) that *need* a GNU make to be used. Do we have (or

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-02 Thread Warwick HARVEY
It seems obvious from the responses I've had, that one of the programs needs to be renamed (no other solutions were presented, and, frankly, I can't really think of one that won't cause problems). If we assume this is the case, it is fairly obvious which one should be renamed: the Mercury one.

Re: Perl vs Python vs ....

1996-08-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
You (Dan Stromberg) wrote: Ian Jackson wrote: sh is not suitable for many of the things Perl gets used for - consider update-inetd, update-info c. Actually, a /bin/sh script to add inetd.conf entries, and another to remove entries keyed off the service field, was unmentionably simple

Bug#4005: Resubmitting Bug#3875, Lynx *.deb problem.

1996-08-02 Thread Eddie Maddox
Package: lynx Version: 2.5 and 2.4-FM-960316 OS: Debian 1.1, 17 JUN 96, with dpkg 1.2.11elf Bug: Lynx thinks *.deb files are text/plain, rather than binary. Therefor downloads corrupt *.deb files. -- NOTE: Please

uploaded babel 3.6-4 to master

1996-08-02 Thread Erick Branderhorst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Date: 02 Aug 96 11:49 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: babel Version: 3.6-4 Binary: babel Architecture: all source Description: babel: Support for multilingual typesetting with

fileutils 3.13 on master

1996-08-02 Thread Erick Branderhorst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Date: 02 Aug 96 11:32 UT Format: 1.6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: Low Maintainer: Erick Branderhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: fileutils Version: 3.13-3 Binary: fileutils Architecture: i386 source Description: fileutils: GNU file management utilities.

Re: Bug#3987: octave needs libg++

1996-08-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, marc hoffmann wrote: Package: Octave Version: 1.1.1-3 After installing octave it won't run and giving a message like: can't find /lib/libg++ (I don't remember exactly). After installing libg++27 elf version (version 2.7.1-2), everything worked fine. Octave had no

gmp-1.3.2-3 uploaded to master.

1996-08-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
This fixes the architectural problems in the source. Date: 02 Aug 96 13:36 UT Format: 1.5 Distribution: unstable Priority: Low Maintainer: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: gmp Version: 1.3.2-3 Binary: gmp Architecture: i386 source Description: gmp: Multiprecision arithmetic library

Re: /usr/doc/copyright/package - /usr/doc/package/copyright ?

1996-08-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Guy Maor: I don't think we should move the copyright file. Most people don't ever need to look at them, so it's simpler if they're out of the way. aolI agree, because of this, and because there are packages that only have and need a copyright file, but not their own directory below

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Warwick HARVEY: Are there packages that depend on having an editor, Without trying, I think of vipw, vigr, mail, elm, rcs (and thus cvs), trn, tin, and nn. I grant that all but vipw and vigr can be used without an editor -- if you only read mail and news and never check anything in. I don't

Bug#4000: emacs can't initialize x window

1996-08-02 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Erick Package: emacs Erick Version: 19.31-2 Erick Erick I load hilit19.el in my .emacs but when not under X this error Erick occurs. Erick Erick Loading hilit19... Error in init file: error: X windows are not in Erick use or not initialized That is your fault, not emacs.

Bug#3997: perl examples should be visible in /usr/doc/perl

1996-08-02 Thread Erick Branderhorst
There should be a link or note in /usr/doc/perl about /usr/doc/examples/perl. This is standard on debian, I don't see why a link is needed. Erick

Bug#3994: ae won't deinstall

1996-08-02 Thread Erick Branderhorst
I'd like to be able to remove `ae', but it won't deinstall. I can do it: dpkg --force-remove-essential --remove ae It should be possible to remove ANY package if I really want to. But you have to do a little extra for it. I don't like it when I'm treated like a child by the packaging

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Warwick HARVEY wrote: On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and others as well). What would it be used for? Are there packages that depend on having an editor, or

conffiles question

1996-08-02 Thread Erick Branderhorst
I 'm busy with mflib and thought that it might be useful to have the weekly script run daily by cron because a daily run will have a bigger chance to be run on systems which are on and off (like mine at home). Therefore I would need to remove the conffigurationfile /etc/cron.weekly/mflib from

Re: uploaded babel 3.6-4 to master

1996-08-02 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Erick * added latin1.sty: Michael Meskens requested See the documentation in /usr/doc/latex/ltnews0[23].tex.gz, this is no longer needed since about last June. I used to use latin1, but now prefer \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} % Umlaute -- Dirk Eddelbuttel

Re: libident-0.17-2 uploaded to master.

1996-08-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
This fixes the description bug. Date: 02 Aug 96 13:34 UT Format: 1.5 Distribution: unstable Priority: Low Maintainer: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: libident Version: 0.17-2 Binary: libident Architecture: i386 source Description: libident: a simple RFC1413 client library Changes: This

diff-2.7-11 uploaded to master.

1996-08-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
This repairs the architecture bug reported against this package. Date: 02 Aug 96 16:44 UT Format: 1.5 Distribution: unstable Priority: Low Maintainer: Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Source: diff Version: 2.7-11 Binary: diff Architecture: i386 source Description: diff: File comparison

Bug#4006: Fileutils has /usr/libexec directory

1996-08-02 Thread David Engel
Package: fileutils Version: 3.13-2 The fileutils package has an empty /usr/libexec directory in the .deb file. I don't think the FSSTND supports libexec yet, so the directory should be removed. David -- David EngelOptical Data Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

elm problems

1996-08-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
I just tried to build elm from the debian source package with the thought that I might be able to maintain it. So far the verdict is not in. The build target in debian.rules is really very simple: make make documentation touch build However, if I try debian.rules build I

Re: Perl vs Python vs ....

1996-08-02 Thread Brian C. White
I'm sure C and Assembler fit cryptic too. Just think how much further advanced the computer industry would be if neither of those had ever been invented. As to assembler, there are lots of _very_ different styles of writing it; there is no one Assembler language. It's quite impossible

Re: Name clash in prospective package

1996-08-02 Thread Emilio Lopes
BCW == Brian C White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BCW I don't see a problem with packages creating directories and BCW other necessary framework in /usr/local. In some cases, this can BCW be quite complex and without which it isn't possible for there to BCW be local extensions. Besides, it let the

Bug#4008: CVS texinfo docs won't format correctly with TeX

1996-08-02 Thread Rob Browning
Package: cvs Version: 1.8.1-1 The initial format fails because it can't find the file `CVSvn.texi'. (760) tex cvs.texinfo This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1) (cvs.texinfo Hyphenation patterns for british, english, french, german, spanish, loaded. (/usr/lib/texmf/tex/misc/texinfo.tex

Bug#4007: identd doesn't seem to be correctly configured

1996-08-02 Thread Scott K. Ellis
Package: netstd Version: 2.05-1 The configuration of identd in inetd.conf is incorrect. The incorrect line is: ident stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/identdidentd -i with the correct line being: authstream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/identdidentd -i --