Re: According to one update package

2019-11-28 Thread Chris Knadle
particular updates don't come from Debian; I think the one you want is this one from security.debian.org: http://security-cdn.debian.org/debian-security/pool/main/s/sudo/sudo_1.8.10p3-1+deb8u6_amd64.deb -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: Installer: 32 vs. 64 bit

2018-11-08 Thread Chris Knadle
Paul Wise: > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 1:32 PM Chris Knadle wrote: > >> A logical place to check or the lack of BIOS virtualization features and >> show an >> error message for this would be within the .postinst script for the >> virtualbox >> package

Re: Installer: 32 vs. 64 bit

2018-11-08 Thread Chris Knadle
neither AFAICT.] Filing a bug on src:virtualbox with severity 'wishlist' or 'normal' for this issue to discuss it with the maintainer of the virtualbox package(s) seems a logical thing to do. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: PHP Support in Debian

2018-10-19 Thread Chris Knadle
urces.list file and add an apt Pin-Priority in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ for that repository (of say priority 150) such that any installed packages from the additional repository get updated, but any not-already-installed packages from the additional repository aren't automatically used for upgrades. See '

Re: Problem sending my key to keyring.debian.org

2018-10-03 Thread Chris Knadle
nd now "feels similar" to the error you're receiving. If by chance you've run into the same issue, that would be interesting. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: Let's start salvaging packages!

2018-09-26 Thread Chris Knadle
ore this process there wasn't a known path of how to deal with that. Matter of fact that's how I started getting into Debian development in the first place. It is unfortunately not uncommon to find a package [un|under]maintained such that the pacakge in Debian needs salvaging. I hope thi

Re: Let's start salvaging packages!

2018-09-26 Thread Chris Knadle
ve reviewed the resulting document sections and it looks great to me. Thanks very much. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: init script, installed but not activated

2015-10-07 Thread Chris Knadle
real start, thereby being able to evaluate what code to run in the shell script, but nobody likes doing that. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: GNU IceCat?

2015-09-13 Thread Chris Knadle
um after checking a replacement .md5sum file that comes with the overlay package. [This idea comes from exploits on local Debian packages that I've heard about, BTW.] The catch is that there'd need to be some way of triggering a re-installation of the overlay if the package that the overlay is for is reinstalled. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: Facilitating external repositories

2015-06-06 Thread Chris Knadle
that GPG keys installed by eid-archive are signed by a DD or DM. As the debian-keyring package would come from the main archive, that would at least have a trust path to the signing key of the main distribution repository. That's what I can think of at the moment anyway. -- Chris -- Chris

Re: Bug#739997: ITA: mumble -- Low latency VoIP client

2014-02-27 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:12:52 Patrick Matthäi wrote: Am 24.02.2014 20:50, schrieb Chris Knadle: Package: wnpp Severity: normal X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org This package hasn't been orphaned, but there hasn't been any activity from the maintainer

ITA: mumble -- Low latency VoIP client

2014-02-25 Thread Chris Knadle
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Bug#739997: ITA: mumble -- Low latency VoIP client

2014-02-24 Thread Chris Knadle
with maintaining this package -- I put together the current 1.2.4-0.2 package in sid and jessie. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: Bug#727708: Linux Security, Red Hat and Systemd Conspiracy

2014-02-21 Thread Chris Knadle
]. I don't personally think this was because of malice or conspiracy -- it's far more likely to be some kind of technical misunderstanding or a design issue than anything else. [1]: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/303 [2]: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484 -- Chris -- Chris Knadle

Re: Packaging of stunnel / MIA for Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, February 07, 2014 17:09:27 Ian Jackson wrote: Chris Knadle writes (Re: Packaging of stunnel / MIA for Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz): ... Well, here's the typical scenario: - maintainer stops maintaining a package, for whatever reason, and doesn't respond to communication

Re: Packaging of stunnel / MIA for Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Knadle
recommend requesting a new version via a 'wishlist' bug, then releasing a new version as a -0.1 NMU. Others (myself included) have done this successfully. As always, thanks for your continued work in Debian. ;-) -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us signature.asc Description

Re: Packaging of stunnel / MIA for Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Knadle
Adding Gregor Herrmann to this because he and I were looking to work on #672198 but we both were swamped with other work. On Friday, February 07, 2014 00:02:16 Sebastian Reichel wrote: On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 03:27:51PM -0500, Chris Knadle wrote: On Thursday, February 06, 2014 13:59:59

Re: Packaging of stunnel / MIA for Luis Rodrigo Gallardo Cruz

2014-02-06 Thread Chris Knadle
Leaving off the MIA team on this reply, mainly because I don't think this is news to them per se and I'd rather not spam them. On Friday, February 07, 2014 02:54:09 Sebastian Reichel wrote: On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 06:56:04PM -0500, Chris Knadle wrote: I know; I agree with you and I think

Re: default MTA

2013-06-14 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, June 14, 2013 02:31:45, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:42:15 -0400, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote: So right now I think that I probably just didn't know that this had been fixed, because I haven't been using the split file configuration for along time. I

Re: default MTA

2013-06-13 Thread Chris Knadle
of the fix doesn't matter much -- what matters is that it's fixed. ;-) -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: default MTA

2013-06-13 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, June 13, 2013 08:16:02, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:25:34 -0400, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote: On Thursday, June 13, 2013 06:41:16, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:17:11 +0100, Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk wrote: I've just tried

Re: default MTA

2013-06-12 Thread Chris Knadle
-, but this funtionality might be able to be added to the run_parts() function that cat_parts() uses. On servers I'm still using the abstraction via the single config method, but I've repeatedly been tempted to use a straight exim4.conf file. [I probably should.] -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:35:14, Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote: On Sunday, June 02, 2013 17:10:02, Marc Haber wrote: Exim's default in the packages is not to send authentication data over a non-encrypted connection

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, June 06, 2013 13:18:39, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us [130606 14:53]: I'm glad you asked this, because it prompted me to investigate further. This was something I was told was commonly done, but it looks now like it might be a misnomer. I'm

Re: default MTA

2013-06-06 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, June 06, 2013 16:30:48, Roger Lynn wrote: On 06/06/13 14:00, Chris Knadle wrote: On Wednesday, June 05, 2013 15:35:14, Marc Haber wrote: On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:53:59 -0400, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote: Attempting to use an FQDN is also troublesome, because

Re: question about build a package

2013-06-04 Thread Chris Knadle
On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 06:31:37, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On 04-06-13 04:48, Chris Knadle wrote: Unfortunately no: the Postfix source package looks like it's in 1.0 format, so there aren't any quilt patches. That's not necessarily true as a result of it being a 1.0 format package

Re: question about build a package

2013-06-04 Thread Chris Knadle
On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 13:40:56, Russ Allbery wrote: Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us writes: On Tuesday, June 04, 2013 06:31:37, Wouter Verhelst wrote: That's not necessarily true as a result of it being a 1.0 format package (there were ways to use quilt patches with the 1.0 format

Re: question about build a package

2013-06-03 Thread Chris Knadle
Hi Pol, probably you should patch the package using quilt. Unfortunately no: the Postfix source package looks like it's in 1.0 format, so there aren't any quilt patches. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: question about build a package

2013-06-03 Thread Chris Knadle
-files ... [many other files patched] The last set of lines above list the upstream postfix files that got patched. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: default MTA

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, June 02, 2013 17:10:02, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 15:06:40 -0400, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote: I can understand why one would want this, but I can also understand why it hasn't been done. Without first setting up TLS, this would involve passing

Re: default MTA

2013-06-01 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, May 31, 2013 07:15:36, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:51:04 -0400, Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us wrote: For Exim, the one thing I would want to change would be to ship a configuration that by default created an SSL certificate and enabled MAIN_TLS_ENABLE

Re: default MTA

2013-06-01 Thread Chris Knadle
the pony. Or an otter, I like otters. Otters are pretty cute looking. They remind me of gophers. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: default MTA

2013-06-01 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 20:02:42, Russ Allbery wrote: Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us writes: On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 15:46:15, Russ Allbery wrote: That's exactly the point, and is why I would prefer not to write those notifications into a file that no one ever looks at. (Which

Re: default MTA

2013-05-30 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 05:11:06, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us [130529 08:29]: - Exim configuration is more human readable than Postifx's, IMHO. Postfix configuration is concise but terse, and there are typically blocks of options

Re: default MTA

2013-05-30 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 15:48:14, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: On 29/05/13 08:18, Chris Knadle wrote: On Monday, May 27, 2013 21:02:22, Marco d'Itri wrote: Now that we are done with systemd for the time being, can we have the flame war about replacing Exim with Postfix

Re: default MTA

2013-05-30 Thread Chris Knadle
divide that ends up causing an electronic communications divide. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: default MTA

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Knadle
preferred solution here is to increase the local storage enough to run exim4-daemon-light, because that's been reliable for me. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: default MTA

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Knadle
to itself repeatedly which makes it more difficult to grep the logs for a complete transaction. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: default MTA

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Knadle
this to 'no' will also disable queueruns from /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/exim4 QUEUERUNNER='combined' The 'queueonly' option has a daemon that processes the queue for mail sent locally via 'sendmail', yet has no listening port at all. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R

Re: default MTA

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Knadle
appealing, since the average desktop user is never going to look there either.) Somehow this problem reminds me of the event log used on a popular operating system. Most users don't read that log either. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chris Knadle
is interactive interface. Am I right? Yes. aptitude has an interactive interface available, apt-get does not. I think the point of the note in the release-notes is to point users to aptitude for an interactive terminal package manager, rather than dselect. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chris Knadle
can understand why you do. It can sometimes be tricky to work around package conflicts. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Bug#688772: [CTTE #688772] Dependency of meta-gnome on network-manager

2013-03-12 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 07:39:44, Michael Biebl wrote: On 27.02.2013 00:50, Chris Knadle wrote: When this was brought up in the bug report, the response was network-manager can be installed, then disabled, but how to do that wasn't documented anywhere in the network-manager package

Re: Bug#688772: [CTTE #688772] Dependency of meta-gnome on network-manager

2013-02-27 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 07:39:44, Michael Biebl wrote: On 27.02.2013 00:50, Chris Knadle wrote: When this was brought up in the bug report, the response was network-manager can be installed, then disabled, but how to do that wasn't documented anywhere in the network-manager package

Re: Bug#688772: [CTTE #688772] Dependency of meta-gnome on network-manager

2013-02-26 Thread Chris Knadle
/releases/testing/amd64/install.txt.en -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Discarding uploaded binary packages

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Knadle
built via a buildd rather than on a DD's local machine? -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: Discarding uploaded binary packages

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:45:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:28:14PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 05:04:55, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org [2012.10.16.0945 +0200]: We have not cared enough

Re: where is the DNSSEC root key?

2012-10-05 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, October 04, 2012 10:44:10 PM Philipp Kern wrote: On Thu, Oct 04, 2012 at 03:10:01PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: Last I looked into this [which has admittedly been a while], Bind 9 was the only DNS server that had actually implemented DNSSEC, and the others I looked

Re: where is the DNSSEC root key?

2012-10-04 Thread Chris Knadle
://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-alternatives.html -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-20 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, August 20, 2012 03:29:05, Stephan Seitz wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 07:59:00PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: Related note: I likewise repeatedly have confusion over how to deal with testing Network Status from within shell scripts for doing operations that require network access

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Chris Knadle
/events/953.en.html -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: can we (fully) fix/integrate NetworkManager (preferred) or release-goal its decommissioning

2012-08-19 Thread Chris Knadle
think is worth watching.) Finally, I want to make it clear that none of the above is meant as criticism of any kind -- it's meant purely as an attempt to help. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serenity_Prayer [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhgtGFPTeMY -- Chris -- Chris Knadle

Re: choice in core infrastructure decisions (Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism)

2012-08-11 Thread Chris Knadle
* what will be the *default* init system. Just that we are open to a new alternative. If and when there are Debian packages available for OpenRC I'd like to try it. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: choice in core infrastructure decisions (Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism)

2012-08-11 Thread Chris Knadle
On Saturday, August 11, 2012 18:02:04, Matthias Klumpp wrote: On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 03:38:25PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: systemd may seem better in /most/ cases because it does have some nice features, but I don't think it's better in *all* cases. systemd doesn't allow shutdown/reboot

Re: why do people introduce stup^Wstrange changes to quilt 3.0 format

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Knadle
, so these seem like they'd be important to track rather than something to ignore. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: why do people introduce stup^Wstrange changes to quilt 3.0 format

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:52:02, Gergely Nagy wrote: Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us writes: On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 06:38:49, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:10:28AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 03:17:17PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote

Re: why do people introduce stup^Wstrange changes to quilt 3.0 format

2012-05-17 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:54:15, Jon Dowland wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:41:37AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: I'm confused concerning the above; the point of a VCS in this context is to track changes to the source package, and the patches are themselves important changes

Re: Version for a returning package

2012-05-13 Thread Chris Knadle
and obsolete Debian distro releases. Just to let you know: debian-multimedia.org has just switched domain names to deb-multimedia.org I think this was done to comply with Debian's policy on domain name usage. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

2012-05-13 Thread Chris Knadle
were new. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Version for a returning package

2012-05-13 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, May 13, 2012 13:41:13, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 12-05-13 at 10:51am, Chris Knadle wrote: On Sunday, May 13, 2012 06:28:03, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 12-05-13 at 11:49am, Samuel Thibault wrote: Mike Hommey, le Sun 13 May 2012 11:16:13 +0200, a écrit : The versions

Re: Making -devel discussions more viable

2012-05-06 Thread Chris Knadle
that works in most cases shouldn't be terribly hard to implement. People abusing the shortcomings of the solution can still be banned on a case-by-case basis. It's always a judgement call. Not all judgements are going to be correct. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key

Re: Making -devel discussions more viable

2012-05-06 Thread Chris Knadle
-private: Private discussions among developers and this list is not archived. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-03 Thread Chris Knadle
as they drive around. The rigs used in cars likely aren't running a Linux OS, but the base station nodes that receive and report the APRS traffic probably are, and as Debian has been friendly to hams it's one of the more likely to be used there. -- Chris, KB2IQN -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-03 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, May 03, 2012 17:28:29, Patrick Ouellette wrote: On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 05:13:09PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: Drat. I forgot about APRS. APRS has become fairly popular among hams, so much so that it now comes built-in to several radios, and even HTs (Handy-Talkies). APRS

Re: Removing the MTA from the default install

2012-05-02 Thread Chris Knadle
in getting DMA to send mail using SMTP AUTH over TLS to port 587. [The only snag was that I had to reconfigure Mutt to set envelope_from=yes, otherwise the sending email address was invalid, but this isn't DMA's fault. :-P] -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Knadle
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 04:53:03, Philipp Kern wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: I think it would be useful to describe what issue(s) there are concerning 8BITMIME and why this is important. I've found some information [1] about this, but it isn't clear

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-01 Thread Chris Knadle
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 11:55:20, Riku Voipio wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 12:48:10AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: ... The quoted 2010 survey [2] showed Exim was the most popular MTA (which I found surprising), deployment of Exim growing just slightly faster than Postfix, and everything

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-04-30 Thread Chris Knadle
, and to notify the sender on a permanent failure. Thusfar I've only been able to find all of that in a full-fledged MTA. [1] http://cr.yp.to/smtp/8bitmime.html [2] http://www.securityspace.com/s_survey/data/man.201007/mxsurvey.html -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-04-28 Thread Chris Knadle
were also slow. [The early 90's is when I was doing packet radio.] [1] http://www.timewave.com/support/PK-232/PK232DSP.html -- Chris -- Chris Knadle, KB2IQN chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, April 27, 2012 03:54:51, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 05:18:35AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: This is getting OT and a better question for debian-user, so this will be my last post regarding this issue. On 27.04.2012 04:34, Chris Knadle wrote: AFAICT I really

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-26 Thread Chris Knadle
://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/openrc.git [4] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/openrc/ -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-26 Thread Chris Knadle
the 'quiet' option is used, however the startup messages don't seem to be the same as when 'quiet' is turned off, even when also passing 'systemd.log_color=true'. I'll investigate this further when I don't have something more pressing to do. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-26 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 16:45:08, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Chris Knadle The default of passing 'quiet' to the kernel is also apparently picked up by systemd, which then suppresses the daemon startup messages. If 'quiet' is removed, systemd gives colorized daemon startup messages

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-26 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 20:39:56, Michael Biebl wrote: On 27.04.2012 02:29, Chris Knadle wrote: Specifically I'm looking to see the daemon startup console *text* messages, but without verbose kernel bootup noise that is gotten if the 'quiet' option is removed. echo kernel.printk = 3

Re: RFC: OpenRC as Init System for Debian

2012-04-26 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 23:18:35, Michael Biebl wrote: This is getting OT and a better question for debian-user, so this will be my last post regarding this issue. Agreed. Same. On 27.04.2012 04:34, Chris Knadle wrote: AFAICT I really want the 'quiet' linux command line parameter

Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking? (was: wine-unstable in Debian)

2012-04-23 Thread Chris Knadle
it contains. For starters I'm going to email this suggestion to the Developer's Reference Team. Thanks very much. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/04/msg00486.html -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description

Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking? (was: wine-unstable in Debian)

2012-04-18 Thread Chris Knadle
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Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking? (was: wine-unstable in Debian)

2012-04-18 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 10:21:45, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:00:43AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: Debian has NMUs (Non-Maintainer Uploads) -- however this is mainly meant for uploading critical bug fixes without having to resort to hijacking the package

Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking? (was: wine-unstable in Debian)

2012-04-18 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:42:33, Jon Dowland wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:28:33AM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: The way section 5.11 is written, it implies NMUs are for bug fixes only. It literally states Fixing cosmetic issues or changing the packaging style in NMUs is discouraged

Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking?

2012-04-18 Thread Chris Knadle
that is currently working on the package(s) and notifiying the current maintainer(s) that this has been done seems reasonable. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us GPG Key: 4096R/0x1E759A726A9FDD74 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking?

2012-04-18 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 04:04:49 PM Russ Allbery wrote: Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us writes: I think the above is reasonable and fits the Debian do-acracy methodology. At the same time, I also understand that this is a tough call to make. Removing the current maintainer

Re: wine-unstable in Debian

2012-04-17 Thread Chris Knadle
for someone motivated, and likely to be longer. I believe that timeframe makes the assumption that the work is correct, i.e. meets the QA/multiarch/backportability requirements. My personal conclusion to all this is simply something's gotta give. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: wine-unstable in Debian

2012-04-15 Thread Chris Knadle
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Re: The future of non-dependency-based boot

2012-04-11 Thread Chris Knadle
On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 05:14:34, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 04/11/2012 06:12 AM, Chris Knadle wrote: - if the init script left behind was part of a Debian package, deleting the init script means removing part of the configuration from the Debian pacakge, yet not purging the package

Re: The future of non-dependency-based boot

2012-04-10 Thread Chris Knadle
of whether the init script can be deleted has a satisfactory answer, but an answer of 'no' will presumably cause an issue for dependency-based bootup. Any thoughts on the above? -- -- Chris Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

[OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread Chris Knadle
a custom-built kernel (and have been for a long time). Any idea why wicd would prevent your laptop from suspending? The best first guess I have is perhaps a bug with the wireless card driver or firmware such that it won't enter the suspend state. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Chris Knadle
, (because hijacking an ITP is just rude) before working through debian-mentors to get a sponsored upload. This isn't simply theoretical, as a package I've been slowly working on is in this very situation. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Knadle
it best during one of the talks during DebConf10: Debian is software, and software can be changed. i.e there's no reason to fear, regardless of which direction is chosen. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, March 23, 2012 18:26:37, Michael Biebl wrote: On 23.03.2012 20:07, Chris Knadle wrote: Right now the situation may be somewhat reversed, because in the general case, daemons need to be patched to work correctly with systemd. This is simply not true. Only if you want to use

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, March 23, 2012 19:06:48, Michael Biebl wrote: On 23.03.2012 23:59, Chris Knadle wrote: Lennart Pottering during his talk said that daemons needed to be patched to fully work with systemd, but didn't say specifically what they needed to be patched for. If he had qualified it, I

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, March 23, 2012 19:23:11, Michael Banck wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 06:59:52PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Friday, March 23, 2012 18:26:37, Michael Biebl wrote: On 23.03.2012 20:07, Chris Knadle wrote: Right now the situation may be somewhat reversed, because

Re: test /etc/init.d/MyPackage start before shipping, please

2012-03-23 Thread Chris Knadle
AFAIK. The bottom line is that even though it sounds like a reasonable idea in theory, it's probably not practical to do in practice. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-22 Thread Chris Knadle
it again repeatedly to no avail. [I have not yet tried systemd to test for this kind of behavior -- if someone knows how systemd would behave in this case I'd be interested to know.] -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-22 Thread Chris Knadle
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Re: thoughts on blocking and downgrade attacks agains secure APT

2012-03-19 Thread Chris Knadle
root access, and at the point an attacker has local root access security is already moot. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 04:51:10, Reinhard Tartler wrote: On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us writes: On Saturday, March 17, 2012 21:53:18, Russ Allbery wrote: Hence the Debian patent policy. We can't just ignore

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 13:23:13, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 03/18/2012 09:50 PM, Chris Knadle wrote: Some public discussion with the repository maintainer about this might be warranted. Such would be worhwhile even if the outcome is not what is desired, because at least

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, March 18, 2012 17:13:55, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: On 12-03-18 at 04:48pm, Chris Knadle wrote: On Sunday, March 18, 2012 13:23:13, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 03/18/2012 09:50 PM, Chris Knadle wrote: Some public discussion with the repository maintainer about this might

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-17 Thread Chris Knadle
with project goals. The above explains the whole reason d-m.o exists. However perhaps it also might explain the tenuous relationship d.o has with d-m.o because d.o may need to distance itself from the work d-m.o does. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful

2012-03-16 Thread Chris Knadle
On Friday, March 16, 2012 13:13:30, Patrick Ouellette wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 08:20:22PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: On Thursday, March 15, 2012 16:11:00, Patrick Ouellette wrote: On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 09:48:02AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Why so? If I make a copy for backup

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