Re: Results for Voting secrecy

2022-03-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
> Please reconsider. Otherwise the project's sole alternative may be to > replace the Project Secretary. > Let me get this straight -- You (a seconder of the winning option) now believe that we need to stop and re-open discussion on a closed matter that the whole project voted on (which I

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

2021-11-04 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
I agree. I also don't know if this is something we can just do with the DPL or not. The name master isn't great, as is ftp. No one has suggested a name yet. If this was my proposal, I'd suggest the debian archive team. Why can't we just change the name without a GR between the ftpteam and DPL?

Re: General resolution: ratify https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io

2021-03-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Confirmed. On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 5:33 PM Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:16:44PM +0100, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote : > > > Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the > body > > > who

Re: My analysis of the proposals

2019-12-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
this mess. I don't think trying to comapre and contrast is helpful or even relevant to this vote at all. The technical merits are largely not in play and shouldn't factor in to the vote too much. Please can we stop this discussion and getting baited into talking about the technical merits of pid 1?

Re: Proposal: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple implementations

2019-11-30 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 4:41 PM Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Hi, > > > X< > > Title: Reaffirm our commitment to support portability and multiple > implementations > > ... so how does this help the project? We are all wasting lots of time > in discussing policy and if we want to support init and

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

2016-07-08 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 03:27:56PM +0200, Margarita Manterola wrote: > > The Debian Constitution is very well written, in a way that is almost > completely > ungendered. The only gendered word left is the Chairman of the Technical > Committee. There is no reason for this position to be

Re: Alternative proposal: reaffirm maintainers technical competence over the software they maintain

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
system for Linux in jessie stands undisturbed. However, the TC resolution is altered to add the additional text above in sections #1, #2 and #3. ** End Proposal ** Seconded. -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C

Re: [Call for seconds] The “no GR, please“ amendement.

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
policy via GR strikes me as awkward. I'd rather see the maintainers in question attempt to resolve this. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org

Re: Alternative proposal: reaffirm maintainers technical competence over the software they maintain

2014-10-20 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
]: parliamentary monitoring organization [2]: http://sunlightfoundation.com/ [3]: campaign contributions and lobbying data might do some good to try to disspell all the evil redhat is apparently buying us all off -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-16 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
need to consider adding such requirement to the policy. Getting tired of these threads :( Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http

Re: Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-10-16 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
around. Getting tired of these threads :( True that. But at least this is about an actual point. (IMHO) Word. Still on VAC-ly yours, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http

Re: Both DPL candidates: handling social conflict

2014-03-21 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
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Re: GR proposal: code of conduct

2014-03-05 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 09:38:02PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: I second Wouter's proposal and I second both these amendments by Neil. I also second Wouter's proposal and amendments by Neil. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
. As much as I disagreed, I respected the fact you always had technical grounds. Clearly such blatent politicking tarnishes that respect, and I'd imagine this is becoming a popular point of view. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
the TC decision with a GR that mentions the word init is absurd. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
in that resolution at all. Why isn't this just a standalone GR asserting a position statement about issues of the day on the coupling question? Ian's backdoor would then trigger and abort the TC decision, so he says. Bdale Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
as vacating the default init TC decision is nuts. This would be a position statement about coupling, not default init, and it seems that this is to be interpreted as triggering the clause, as noted by it's author. -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

2014-03-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-02-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 06:06:12PM +0400, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote: PS: BTW, Guillem what's a status of this GR-proposal? No seconds. Many objections. The TC has a decision. The flame is finally smoldering out. Can we move on as a project? Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul

Re: [Proposal] GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-27 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
is premature. Cheers, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt signature.asc

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

2014-01-19 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
, not for me. Thanks, Guillem Much love, Paul -- .''`. Paul Tagliamonte paul...@debian.org | Proud Debian Developer : :' : 4096R / 8F04 9AD8 2C92 066C 7352 D28A 7B58 5B30 807C 2A87 `. `'` http://people.debian.org/~paultag `- http://people.debian.org/~paultag/conduct-statement.txt

Re: [all candidates] What to do with debian-private ?

2013-03-29 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:34:08AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 03:35:40PM -0700, Don Armstrong a écrit : -private is notified so DDs are aware. How is the state of -private those days ? When I unsubscribed, it was still mixing informations that are really

[all candidates] Debian as an FSF Free Software Distribution

2013-03-14 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Hello, DPL'ers, What work will you be doing to continue Zach's efforts to negotiate with the FSF over Debian's status as a Free Software Distribution? Will you treat this issue as a priority? Can we expect continued open dialogue with the FSF on this issue? Would you be willing to help find the

to DPL candidates: How do you plan to represent Debian externally?

2013-03-10 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
I'd ask the DPL candidates to speak a bit about how they intend to represent Debian externally -- both in terms out downstream outreach, as well as upstream (or even side-stream) relations. What sort of plans do you have to collaborate with other F/OSS communities? Other distros? Realtedly, what