Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-04-05 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Apr 06, 2024 at 12:14:01AM +0530, Sruthi Chandran wrote: >On 28/03/24 05:56, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Greetings candidates, > > QUESTION TO THE CANDIDATES: what are your quantitative diversity goals > and metrics, and what are the rationales behind those goals and metrics? >

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-04-05 Thread Sruthi Chandran
On 28/03/24 05:56, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Greetings candidates, QUESTION TO THE CANDIDATES: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics, and what are the rationales behind those goals and metrics? Sorry, I do not wish to put a quantitative value to solve a social issue. Some

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-30 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 17183 March 1977, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: I am also the original author of packages, and since I am told that salsa is only for debian and upstream projects are not supposed to be there, for me it is easier to keep packaging and development on a single repository. Which of course can't

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 11:28:33 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > The reason for asking the question in the first place is because the > statements made by the candidates demand some level of quantification. > What, precisely, is the problem with asking for a quantitative > description of a

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 02:10:07PM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner: > Does anyone have a link to the information Margerita shared or information > from other sources about the number of women contributing to Debian compared > to Free Software in general? Having specific numbers is a helpful first

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Friday, March 29, 2024 1:56:46 PM MST Andreas Tille wrote: > Interestingly, this issue may be more relevant than you assume. At > DebConf15, Margerita Manterola shed light on pertinent statistics, > revealing that the representation of women in Free Software lags behind > that of the broader IT

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Soren, Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 01:00:36PM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner: > Personally, I am one of only two Debian Developers that I know of living in > Arizona. So, from a local geographic diversity perspective, I would like to > see a few more Debian Developers that I could meet up with

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Thursday, March 28, 2024 6:53:19 PM MST Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > So, I repeat my question to the candidates: what are your quantitative > diversity goals and metrics, and what are the rationales behind those > goals and metrics? I would just like to add my support to Roberto for asking this

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Louis-Philippe, Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 02:41:44PM -0400 schrieb Louis-Philippe Véronneau: > We're getting a little sidetracked here, but that's not the case: While its sidetracked from the original question I'm happy that this came up here and I learned two good arguments (from Russ and

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
On 2024-03-29 4 h 49 a.m., Salvo Tomaselli wrote: I am told that salsa is only for debian and upstream projects are not supposed to be there We're getting a little sidetracked here, but that's not the case: "4. What can be hosted on salsa? The answer is simple: As long as it is opensource

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Sven Mueller
I apologize for misunderstanding your reason.Am 29.03.2024 16:28 schrieb "Roberto C. Sánchez" :Hi Sven, On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 03:57:57PM +0100, Sven Mueller wrote: >    Hi Roberto. >    Most of the reason you are asking here so persistently is that Andreas >    chose to say "over

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > Without a clear statement of the goal, desired, or preferred diversity > mix it is not possible to have a discussion about whether any particular > proposed policy or program is likely to be beneficial or detrimental. This statement is obviously false. One can have

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Hi Sven, On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 03:57:57PM +0100, Sven Mueller wrote: >Hi Roberto. >Most of the reason you are asking here so persistently is that Andreas >chose to say "over representation of white males" instead of "under >representation of some other group" (be it females,

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Sven Mueller
Hi Roberto.Most of the reason you are asking here so persistently is that Andreas chose to say "over representation of white males" instead of "under representation of some other group" (be it females, POC, ...).I'd like to point out three things about this:1) it is clear from current numbers that

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Salvo Tomaselli writes: > I am also the original author of packages, and since I am told that > salsa is only for debian and upstream projects are not supposed to be > there, for me it is easier to keep packaging and development on a single > repository. Which of course can't be salsa. The

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Salvo, Am Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 09:49:24AM +0100 schrieb Salvo Tomaselli: > I am also the original author of packages, and since I am told that salsa is > only for debian and upstream projects are not supposed to be there, for me it > is easier to keep packaging and development on a single

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Hi Andreas, On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 06:57:33AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Am Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 07:30:51AM -0400 schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: > > ... > > In any event, rather than infer what you might believe, I thought it > > more respectful and helpful to ask you give some

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Robert, Am Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 07:30:51AM -0400 schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: > ... > In any event, rather than infer what you might believe, I thought it > more respectful and helpful to ask you give some insight into how you > shaped your view so that those who consider voting for you might >

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-28 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 03:59:13PM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Roberto" == Roberto C Sánchez writes: > Roberto> I can infer that you likely view the current ratio of around 3% > women > Roberto> (33/1004) and around 96% men ((1004-33)/1004) [0] (and, yes, I > recognize >

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-28 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Roberto" == Roberto C Sánchez writes: Roberto> I can infer that you likely view the current ratio of around 3% women Roberto> (33/1004) and around 96% men ((1004-33)/1004) [0] (and, yes, I recognize Roberto> that this does not account for gender minority individuals, but I

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-28 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Hi Andreas, Thank you for responding to my question. On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 07:28:52AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > > We are all aware of the issue you are eloquently illustrating. I will > not make false promises and give any metrics I intend to reach as DPL. > The reason behind the

Re: Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Roberto, Am Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 08:26:06PM -0400 schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: > QUESTION TO THE CANDIDATES: what are your quantitative diversity goals > and metrics, and what are the rationales behind those goals and metrics? > > Some context: > ... > In the last GR there were 1004 voting

Question to candidates: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics?

2024-03-27 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Greetings candidates, QUESTION TO THE CANDIDATES: what are your quantitative diversity goals and metrics, and what are the rationales behind those goals and metrics? Some context: Both platforms cite imbalances in the areas of gender and geography as concerns contributing to each candidate's