Re: Dev model questions (Was Re: ASF Slack for community?)

2020-07-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 7/17/2020 11:44 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: On 7/17/20 2:37 PM, Armstrong Foundjem wrote: Hello ASF community members: I am a research student on FOSS, and currently, I am looking into the Apache ecosystem to understand the release mechanisms that ASF projects follow/use. However, it’s not

Re: Survey meeting to gather feedback

2019-10-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/21/2019 3:58 AM, Katia Rojas wrote: Hello folks, Sorry for the delay in the answer, we were working non stop until now to get you the meeting minutes and prepare ourselves for the second contribution period. Again, thank you so much for your time and help! All your comments were

Re: Survey meeting to gather feedback

2019-10-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/21/2019 3:58 AM, Katia Rojas wrote: Hello folks, Sorry for the delay in the answer, we were working non stop until now to get you the meeting minutes and prepare ourselves for the second contribution period. Again, thank you so much for your time and help! All your comments were valuable

Re: New board report wizard, feedback welcome!

2019-08-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 8/1/2019 11:32 PM, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 8/1/19 6:23 PM, Joan Touzet wrote: I've seen wizards that would present all the info on a single page, but collapse each section as it loses focus / scroll is done / "next" button is pressed. Users could manually expand each section, or press a

Re: New board report wizard, feedback welcome!

2019-08-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I've tried out the tool. I can see it being useful for some projects, and should be available as a choice. However, I would not use it as it is, and hope the existing reporter gets upgraded, not replaced by the wizard. I much prefer to view the whole report as a unit, not just as a series of

Re: [Discuss] Attributing contributions to commercial vendors investing in projects

2019-04-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/17/2019 11:27 AM, Griselda Cuevas wrote: It brings clarity to project roadmap and dependencies. Knowing what companies are investing in a given area, allows users & contributors know who to contact to move their own contributions faster and gives companies the ability to

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-04-02 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 4/2/2019 8:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ... It's just that the comdev PMC is responsible for oversight and reporting on those new initiatives, and it keeps things simple for now. That is exactly what troubles me about making the new initiative part of ComDev. There seems to me to be

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-22 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/22/2019 6:56 AM, Shawn McKinney wrote: On Mar 22, 2019, at 2:03 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: It would be very important to come up with a replacement that is as effective as what we're trying to replace. Frankly, I don't know a single candidate. Does anyone? Here are some, can’t say

Re: Request for Participation in University of Cincinnati - Open Source Survey

2018-10-16 Thread Patricia Shanahan
It also excludes retired and unemployed people. I believe people like me, retirees who do not want the stress of a senior technical leader job but enjoy programming, will be an increasing source of open source programming in the future. The results will have to be interpreted very carefully due

Re: Business Cards Getting Started Info

2018-01-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Thanks for putting this together. Can I use the MOO design but get them printed locally? If so, what is the procedure? On 1/5/2018 2:47 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: Hi Everyone I've put together some information on the wiki, about the business cards that I hope provides a basic guide for how to

Re: New reporter UI

2017-06-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Not a response to this message in particular, but to the whole thread. I have an uneasy feeling that "What format should the web page be?" is going to be the 21st Century version of "What form should the bike shed take?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_triviality On 6/18/2017 1:52 AM,

Re: Proposed: (Bi?)monthly committer newsletter

2017-03-31 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 3/31/2017 6:07 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: As you probably know, I have been pondering a (bi?)monthly community newsletter for some time. The goal is to increase the connection between projects/committers and the larger Apache Software Foundation. As we grow larger, it becomes harder and harder

Re: Apache and Java

2017-03-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Java is a good language choice if you want object orientated programming support and are targeting multiple platforms. That is likely to be the case for many Apache projects. Apache OpenOffice is mainly C++. It has an unpleasantly complicated configuration process and multiple sets of build

Re: Profile photos and ASF values

2017-02-01 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I use an acm.org forwarding address as my main e-mail address, and I do write and send e-mail with it as the "From" address. I use my ISP's SMTP server, but specify the e-mail address for the account as "p...@acm.org". The "p...@apache.org" address works the same way, except I use it less

Re: Encouraging Diversity - Update 6

2016-11-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
That should be "example of undesirable behavior". One could obviously write a rule that prohibits using words with more than three syllables in e-mails. On 11/15/2016 8:56 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: What I am looking for is an example of behavior that is permitted by the cu

Re: Encouraging Diversity - Update 6

2016-11-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
point about what we should or should not do re policy, only to refute Niclas's nonsense idea that "safety" is not a word we should be using. On Tue, 15 Nov 2016 at 16:58 Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote: On 11/15/2016 6:48 AM, Noah Slater wrote: ... You want some sort of &

Re: Encouraging Diversity - Update 6

2016-11-15 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 11/15/2016 6:48 AM, Noah Slater wrote: ... You want some sort of "record" to consume. Is a person, on a mailing list, saying "hey this place was so bad for me I had to take a break" not evidence enough for you that something might be wrong? As for the rest of it, this org keeps records of

Re: Hipchat Room for Apache Women?

2016-06-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
short fast dialogues, so I'm not sure how well it would work. (The main idea behind my original suggestion was to use it more like a meeting place, and not so much a discussion one.) Thanks Sharan On 2016-06-14 13:26 (+0200), Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org> wrote: How do you feel about

Re: Hipchat Room for Apache Women?

2016-06-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
wrote: On 06/13/2016 06:17 AM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 6/13/2016 4:45 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: Hi Everyone I discovered Hipchat last week (well I knew Infra were using it!) but found it to be quite a nice informal online environment. I was wondering whether this could be a good way to

Re: Hipchat Room for Apache Women?

2016-06-13 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 6/13/2016 4:45 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: Hi Everyone I discovered Hipchat last week (well I knew Infra were using it!) but found it to be quite a nice informal online environment. I was wondering whether this could be a good way to bring together our existing community of women so that they

Re: Encouraging More Women to Participate on Apache Projects?

2016-05-23 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Systers, http://anitaborg.org/get-involved/systers/ More generally, the Wikipedia article on "Women in Computing", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing, has some possible resources. On 5/23/2016 3:45 AM, Sharan Foga wrote: Hi All Just a quick update. I've sent out an email to

Re: Base for presentation

2016-05-22 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/21/2016 10:31 PM, Alex Harui wrote: On 5/21/16, 4:29 PM, "Patricia Shanahan" <p...@acm.org> wrote: Good points. Unfortunately, the projects in which I'm currently active are not very beginner-friendly. Could people suggest a few projects that would benefit from, an

Re: Base for presentation

2016-05-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/21/2016 2:50 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 21 05 2016, at 11:19, Shane Curcuru <a...@shanecurcuru.org> wrote: Patricia Shanahan wrote on 5/21/16 9:41 AM: In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate in Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk

Base for presentation

2016-05-21 Thread Patricia Shanahan
In connection with the "Encouraging More Women into Participate in Apache Projects?" I am going to try to talk to some student groups, especially a WIC chapter, about Apache. Part of the presentation will be directly related to why women do fine in ASF, including my personal experiences. That

Re: Help Wanted! (it's a title, not a request!)

2016-02-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I like! One suggestion that does not add complexity, but just a little bit of text. Try to quantify the Difficulty levels. Is "Journeyman" harder or easier than "Intermediate"? Similarly, how do "Advanced" and "Expert" compare? I suggest fewer Difficulty options, with a one sentence

Re: Guiding volunteers

2016-02-04 Thread Patricia Shanahan
An alternative approach would be a help-wanted page, organized according to skills, maintained on the same sort of system as the board agenda. Each PMC chair whose project is looking for volunteers would supply information about their needs. The result would be a public web page potential

Re: Want a Mentor

2016-01-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Have you read http://www.apache.org/dev/contributors? On 1/14/2016 11:59 AM, Kapil Jain wrote: Still struggling to find a project and take my first step. Looking for mentor who can just help me in getting started. On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Kapil Jain wrote:

Re: Want a Mentor

2016-01-14 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Kapil Jain wrote: Yes, at a high level - however its providing details about version controlling. feedback/ bugs reporting etc. I'm looking for a suitable project for me I can start understanding it and then contributing to it. On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Patricia Shanahan <p...@acm.org&g

Re: [ASSISTANCE NEEDED] for OSCON

2015-07-11 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I am retired, so no conflicting job responsibilities, but would need to travel from San Diego. There should be someone closer. On 7/11/2015 3:42 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Hi Melissa! First of all -- I wish you best of luck with the surgery and quickest possible recovery! We'll surely miss

Re: What might an open source class look like?

2015-05-07 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 5/7/2015 12:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ... In my experience students didn't care much about licenses and open source vs. proprietary legal/business aspects, what made them tick was realizing that they can be active actors in open source as opposed to just being told what to do with