Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Shane Curcuru
Christofer Dutz wrote on 6/30/23 3:49 AM: ...snip... So in general, I would like to change the defaults used by the GitHub tooling to the ones I proposed in https://community.apache.org/contributors/mailing-lists.html#configuring-the-subject-lines-of-the-emails-being-sent . Quite a number of

Re: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Daniel Gruno
On 2023-06-30 19:41, rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On Fri, 2023-06-30 at 13:55 +, Christofer Dutz wrote:   *   About breaking automation projects might have set up: I would absolutely doubt there is even a single Apache project that has setup automation based on these emails. I could imagine

Re: AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread rbowen
On Fri, 2023-06-30 at 13:55 +, Christofer Dutz wrote: >   *   About breaking automation projects might have set up: I would > absolutely doubt there is even a single Apache project that has setup > automation based on these emails. I could imagine that there is a > hand full of companies

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, Aggregating responses to multiple emails: * Sending an Email ahead of time with a code-snippet that allows keeping the old defaults (If a project wants to keep the old, all they need to do is copy that to their .asf.yaml-file and nothing will change) * About different

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Dave Fisher
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2023, at 2:14 AM, Christofer Dutz > wrote: > > Hi Bertrand, > > In general, I would agree, but the problem is that we currently have a very > large number of unreadable lists. > This is what I’m generally trying to fix. Some projects responded with “If >

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Gary Gregory
I read a lot emails on my phone, so shorts subjects are good. If each subject becomes [PROJECT][DISCUSSION][PR 123] then it's worse than now IMO. Gary On Fri, Jun 30, 2023, 04:20 Christopher wrote: > I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] > topics, though. I

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Chris, On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 11:14 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...In general, I would agree, but the problem is that we currently have a very > large number of unreadable lists Fixing this is a valid goal, but breaking automation that projects might have setup is very bad. I guess

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi Bertrand, In general, I would agree, but the problem is that we currently have a very large number of unreadable lists. This is what I’m generally trying to fix. Some projects responded with “If the defaults are the ways they are, they probably are for a reason … we’ll stick with the

AW: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, well, I removed the issue numbers, as I thought that they only bring very limited value to the reader and the title itself gives way more context. Of course, could we add them, but then I would recommend to add them at the end (just like the repository name). And the reason I chose the

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Jarek Potiuk
Big +1 on that one. There were cases in the past that some "breaking" changes in GitHub integration were introduced already for various reasons. Given some warnings and explanations why we are doing it (basically to better fulfill our mission) it's a change that is pretty easily actionable for

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 9:50 AM Christofer Dutz wrote: > ...I had many discussions with folks at infra about changing the defaults, > but generally > met opposition. The general argument was, that there would be bots that > automatically > consume these emails and these would be confused

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread sebb
Mostly agree, though I wonder why the numbers have been dropped from the shorter titles. [D] could be [DISCUSS] or [RFC] perhaps. On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 at 09:20, Christopher wrote: > > I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] > topics, though. I think I'd rather

Re: Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christopher
I think this would be really great. I'm not a big fan of the [I] and [D] topics, though. I think I'd rather see [ISSUE] and [DISCUSSION], but either way, the ability to group emails is a big improvement. I'd also prefer to always include [GH] as a topic tag, so for example, [GH][ISSUE], so if

Changing the defaults for GitHub generated email titles?

2023-06-30 Thread Christofer Dutz
Hi all, So, we have made it possible to “integrate” GitHub PRs, Issues and now even Discussions by having infra auto-generate emails. However, is the default setting for these just completely useless (in my opinion). Without taking action currently there are only the following options: *