Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch > > wrote: > > > I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this > > > particular case, > > > but the push towards (upstream) Flatpaks is

Anitya [release-monitoring.org] 1.7.0

2023-01-26 Thread Michal Konecny
Hi everyone, the new version of Anitya [0] (1.7.0) is deployed on production. The major change in this version is the migration to Bootstrap 5 [1], this means that there is a new design of Anitya. It also helped to unify the page design in Anitya. The reason to move to Bootstrap 5 was the

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 01. 23 v 14:55 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a): Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400: On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Maybe we can start by filtering out the most outrageous applications: anything that uses --filesystem=home, --filesystem=host, or unfiltered session bus access. That still leaves plenty of possible sandbox holes, but it's better than nothing. We could do this just in GNOME Software and KDE

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Robert Marcano via devel
On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch wrote: I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this particular case, but the push towards

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Neal Gompa píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 07:51 -0500: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jiri Eischmann > wrote: > > > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > > > > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch > > > > > > > >

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400: > On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > > > > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch > > > > > > > > wrote: > >

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 26/01/2023 13:42, Jiri Eischmann wrote: I maintain both packages in Fedora and flatpaks on Flathub, so I can compare. The review to get an app to Flathub was as thorough as Fedora package review. In some ways even stricter. It's not like "it builds, it runs, you're good to go". They care

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Vít Ondruch píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 15:37 +0100: > > Dne 26. 01. 23 v 14:55 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a): > > Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400: > > > On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > > > > Dne 25. 01.

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 5:56 AM Vít Ondruch > > > wrote: > > > > I am not user of Bottles so I won't complain about this > > > >

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 8:25 AM Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > Neal Gompa píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 07:51 -0500: > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:43 AM Jiri Eischmann > > wrote: > > > > > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > > > > > > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > >

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jan 26 2023 at 09:23:35 AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: But we know that people don't read those. We also know that ISVs cannot generally be trusted with regards to the permissions they set for their own apps. This is literally why Android and iOS changed their model. If you want to

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

2023-01-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 01. 23 4:51, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On Tue, 2023-01-24 at 15:55 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages should be retired from Fedora 38 approximately one week before branching. 5 weekly reminders are required, hence the

Re: (Fixed) Re: Most OCaml packages have broken deps now

2023-01-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 02:36:56PM -0700, Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 2:43 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > I think we're fixed now. Here is the side tag & Bodhi update: > > Thank you for taking care of that. > > > - I have added support for rpmautospec > > That's great. > >

Re: Release monitoring for stable releases only

2023-01-26 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 1:09 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:02 AM Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > it seems Anitya correctly distinguishes stable and pre-release > > releases but where to set that I want Fedora bugs only for the stable > > releases? IIRC Pagure

Re: Bootstrapping package with circular dependencies in koji

2023-01-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25. 01. 23 v 19:34 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 03:45:35PM +0100, Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 12:13 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 25. 01. 23 11:50, Vít Ondruch wrote: Reading the thread, I was afraid this will be the end result. Nevertheless, given

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2023-01-26 Thread sgallagh
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: ELN SIG on 2023-01-27 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10133/ ___ devel

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230126.n.0 changes

2023-01-26 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230125.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230126.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:5 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 8 Dropped packages:1 Upgraded packages: 287 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 9.18 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Some heads-ups for Rawhide users: python3-ptyprocess and systemd issues

2023-01-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 09:29:22AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 19:53 Adam Williamson napsal(a): > > On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 10:30 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > The second issue is that systems that update to systemd-253~rc1-1.fc38 > > > seem to get stuck on boot. With

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Adam Williamson wrote: > OTOH, it's not reasonable to dictate to the person maintaining a Fedora > package whether they should think that's a reasonable use of their time > or not. The current maintainers of Bottles decided they trust the > upstream developers to distribute their software

Re: Some heads-ups for Rawhide users: python3-ptyprocess and systemd issues

2023-01-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Adam Williamson: > 6 (__libc_message.cold+0x5) [0x7fbae3c2560f] > Jan 25 13:38:47 fedora /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1040]: (EE) 6: > /lib64/libc.so.6 (malloc_printerr+0x15) [0x7fbae3c96a05] > Jan 25 13:38:47 fedora /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1040]: (EE) 7: > /lib64/libc.so.6 (_int_free+0x9e5)

Re: Release monitoring for stable releases only

2023-01-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 7:02 AM Jaroslav Skarvada wrote: > > Hi, > > it seems Anitya correctly distinguishes stable and pre-release > releases but where to set that I want Fedora bugs only for the stable > releases? IIRC Pagure had a switch for it, but I am unable to find it > on the

Re: Some heads-ups for Rawhide users: python3-ptyprocess and systemd issues

2023-01-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 25. 01. 23 v 19:53 Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Wed, 2023-01-25 at 10:30 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: The second issue is that systems that update to systemd-253~rc1-1.fc38 seem to get stuck on boot. With Plymouth enabled you just see the splash screen. With it disabled (or by pressing

[Test-Announce] Fedora 38 Rawhide 20230126.n.0 nightly compose nominated for testing

2023-01-26 Thread rawhide
Announcing the creation of a new nightly release validation test event for Fedora 38 Rawhide 20230126.n.0. Please help run some tests for this nightly compose if you have time. For more information on nightly release validation testing, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Release monitoring for stable releases only

2023-01-26 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
Hi, it seems Anitya correctly distinguishes stable and pre-release releases but where to set that I want Fedora bugs only for the stable releases? IIRC Pagure had a switch for it, but I am unable to find it on the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/. There is only "No-Monitoring", "Monitoring",

Re: Fedora 38 mass rebuild is finished

2023-01-26 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 22:53, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 7:29 AM Jeff Law wrote: > > > On 1/24/23 00:16, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > > See > > > https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-13/porting_to.html#header-dep-changes > > > Some libstdc++ headers included in older versions > > >

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Maxwell G via devel
On Tue Jan 24, 2023 at 22:44 +0100, Sandro wrote: > Development of Bottles is moving fast and we have been struggling to > keep up with upstream releases, especially since the introduction of > Rust components. What (rust) dependencies are missing? Is it just python-orjson? I worked on

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jan 26 2023 at 03:49:55 PM -, Patrick Griffis via devel wrote: How is an orphan package a good service to users? It will just become outdated and degrade over time. Either (a) somebody else will take the package after it has been orphaned, or else (b) the package will be retired

Delayed openQA test execution

2023-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks! Wanted to send a note out for any maintainers who may be waiting on openQA test results for critical path updates etc. Tests are currently taking much longer than usual to be completed because there's a large backlog. The Rawhide mass rebuild, plus the three critical bugs

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 14:55 +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400: > > On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > > > > > > > Dne 25. 01. 23 v 15:59 Josh Boyer napsal(a): > > > > > On

Re: Release monitoring for stable releases only

2023-01-26 Thread Michal Konecny
This feature is implemented in hotness, which is commenting in Bugzilla. It's already implemented in dist-git and Pagure as well. This is now waiting for new version of Pagure to be available in Fedora infra, dist-git with the changes is already available. :-) You can look at the upcoming

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Patrick Griffis via devel
> IMHO, retiring a Fedora package in favor of an upstream binary of whatever > kind (Flatpak, Snap, AppImage, RPM, binary tarball, whatever) is a major > disservice to Fedora users and defeats the whole point of having a > distribution to begin with. How is an orphan package a good service to

Re: Some heads-ups for Rawhide users: python3-ptyprocess and systemd issues

2023-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 12:41 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Adam Williamson: > > > 6 (__libc_message.cold+0x5) [0x7fbae3c2560f] > > Jan 25 13:38:47 fedora /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[1040]: (EE) 6: > > /lib64/libc.so.6 (malloc_printerr+0x15) [0x7fbae3c96a05] > > Jan 25 13:38:47 fedora

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 12:01 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 14:55 +0100, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400: > > > On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > > > > Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v 18:01 +0100: > > > >

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 15:49 +, Patrick Griffis via devel wrote: > > IMHO, retiring a Fedora package in favor of an upstream binary of > > whatever > > kind (Flatpak, Snap, AppImage, RPM, binary tarball, whatever) is a > > major > > disservice to Fedora users and defeats the whole point of

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 01. 23 v 16:07 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a): Vít Ondruch píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 15:37 +0100: Dne 26. 01. 23 v 14:55 Jiri Eischmann napsal(a): Robert Marcano via devel píše v Čt 26. 01. 2023 v 09:00 -0400: On 1/26/23 8:42 AM, Jiri Eischmann wrote: Vít Ondruch píše v St 25. 01. 2023 v

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

2023-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:21:27AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 26. 01. 23 4:51, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: > > On Tue, 2023-01-24 at 15:55 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following > > > packages > > > should be retired from Fedora 38

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Ben Beasley
I’ve been wanting to package python-orjson specifically, and to get up to speed on Rust packaging in general. I would be happy to co-maintain python-orjson and its dependencies. It’s a weak dependency for python-fastapi, and python-cattrs would like to have it for some integration tests. – Ben

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

2023-01-26 Thread Kalev Lember
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 11:08 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Oh but they are different. FTBFS are not urgent and the policy is only set > to > retire packages that FTBFS for more than 2 release cycles. > > For a package to be considered for retirement in February 23, it would > have to > fail to

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

2023-01-26 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:08 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > Some packagers do set the bugzillas to ASSIGNED to get rid of the reminders > and > then they forget to actually fix the FTBFS, cannot figure out how to fix it, > are blocked on externalities that never happen, etc. Perhaps ASSIGNED should

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Sandro
Well, well, well. What a surprise. I'd never thought getting this amount of response. Let me try to answer some questions that came up as best as I can. I will not go into the discussion of RPM vs. Flatpak. That should probably be carried on in a thread of its own. Suffice to say that my

Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Reon Beon via devel
Thanks. Here is the Feodra 29 Milestone for DNF5: https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf5/milestone/1 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/26/23 18:30, Reon Beon via devel wrote: Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening? There seems to be lots of missing functionality IMHO. -- Orion Poplawski he/him/his - surely the least important thing about me IT Systems Manager

Re: When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Ben Beasley
It is proposed as a Change for Fedora 39. There are indeed quite a few features that will need to be completed between now and then. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceDnfWithDnf5 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2870 On Thu, Jan 26, 2023, at 8:30 PM, Reon Beon via devel wrote: > Are

Self Introduction: Neil Hanlon

2023-01-26 Thread Neil Hanlon
Hi folks! My name is Neil Hanlon and I was recently sponsored into the packager's group by Michel Salim, adding python-sdnotify [1] to Fedora and EPEL. sdnotify is a dependency for some other packages I hope to contribute to Fedora. I began working with Linux in my teens and over the past

Re: Self Introduction: Neil Hanlon

2023-01-26 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Hi Neil, On Thu, 2023-01-26 at 16:34 -0500, Neil Hanlon wrote: > Hi folks! > > My name is Neil Hanlon and I was recently sponsored into the > packager's group by Michel Salim, adding python-sdnotify > [1] to Fedora and EPEL. sdnotify is a dependency for some other > packages I hope to contribute

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

2023-01-26 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 26. 01. 23 20:29, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 10:21:27AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 26. 01. 23 4:51, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: On Tue, 2023-01-24 at 15:55 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages should be

Re: Self Introduction: Neil Hanlon

2023-01-26 Thread JT
Hey Neil, Great to see you here. Hopefully we'll bump into each other again sometime in 2023. JT On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 4:34 PM Neil Hanlon wrote: > Hi folks! > > My name is Neil Hanlon and I was recently sponsored into the packager's > group by Michel Salim, adding python-sdnotify > [1] to

Re: Retiring Bottles in favor of Flatpak provided by upstream

2023-01-26 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 12:15 AM Sandro wrote: > > Having read all the responses, I'm more inclined to head down the road > of orphanage, giving other people a chance to adopt the package. Due to > my limited knowledge of (packaging) Rust, I don't feel I'm the right > person to be main admin for

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in February​

2023-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 11:07:34PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Unfortunately, as seen by the lenght of the packages listed in my emails, > thsi is not always the case. Yeah. ;( > Some packagers do set the bugzillas to ASSIGNED to get rid of the reminders > and then they forget to actually

Nonresponsive maintainers ( was Re: Red Hat Bugzilla mail FAS field is now handled correctly by Bugzilla sync scripts )

2023-01-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 02:49:10PM +0100, Michal Konecny wrote: > Hi everybody, > > TL;DR; Check if you have correct e-mail in Red Hat Bugzilla Mail field in > Fedora Accounts [0]. Empty mail is also OK. > > the Red Hat Bugzilla Email field in Fedora Accounts [0] was till now ignored > by most

When is dnf5 going to replace dnf4?

2023-01-26 Thread Reon Beon via devel
Are there still some outstanding bugs preventing this from happening? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

[rpms/perl-YAML-LibYAML] PR #1: 0.86 bump; Package tests

2023-01-26 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
jplesnik opened a new pull-request against the project: `perl-YAML-LibYAML` that you are following: `` 0.86 bump; Package tests `` To reply, visit the link below https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-YAML-LibYAML/pull-request/1 ___ perl-devel

[rpms/perl-YAML-LibYAML] PR #1: 0.86 bump; Package tests

2023-01-26 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
jplesnik merged a pull-request against the project: `perl-YAML-LibYAML` that you are following. Merged pull-request: `` 0.86 bump; Package tests `` https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-YAML-LibYAML/pull-request/1 ___ perl-devel mailing list --

[Bug 2164678] perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.86 is available

2023-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2164678 Jitka Plesnikova changed: What|Removed |Added Fixed In Version||perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.86-1.fc

[Bug 2164678] perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.86 is available

2023-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2164678 --- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System --- FEDORA-2023-8eab1fd09e has been submitted as an update to Fedora 37. https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-8eab1fd09e -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list

[Bug 2164971] New: perl-Function-Parameters-2.001005 is available

2023-01-26 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2164971 Bug ID: 2164971 Summary: perl-Function-Parameters-2.001005 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-Function-Parameters Keywords: