On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 01:28:19PM GMT, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-05-02 at 15:41 -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
> > On 5/2/24 14:34, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> > > While I follow the philosophy of updating
> > > regularly, there are likely some who install Fnn, and
> > > never
AdamI believe in the KISS principle. Do a simplification change that does it
for the great number of new Fedora users who are coming from other
desktop/laptop/business systems. Linux is gaining #users.
Let us make their migration to Fedora for end-user people as simple as possible
for this
On 5/2/24 16:28, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2024-05-02 at 15:41 -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
On 5/2/24 14:34, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
While I follow the philosophy of updating
regularly, there are likely some who install Fnn, and
never update, and then would expect an update to
On Thu, 2024-05-02 at 15:41 -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
> On 5/2/24 14:34, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> > While I follow the philosophy of updating
> > regularly, there are likely some who install Fnn, and
> > never update, and then would expect an update to
> > Fnn+2 to work without
On 5/2/24 14:34, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
While I follow the philosophy of updating
regularly, there are likely some who install Fnn, and
never update, and then would expect an update to
Fnn+2 to work without issue(s).
--
The CLI update strongly suggests doing 'dnf update --refresh' before
On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 6:14 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
> I don't believe GNOME Software enforces this. (There was some debate about
> whether doing two updates in a row was really useful, if I remember.) That
> may be a big source of pain.
As I recall, *much* of the time it does not matter, but
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:42:57AM +0200, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> upgrades from F41 to F42. Before executing the system-upgrade, users are
> anyway advised to ensure that all installed packages are fully updated.
I don't believe GNOME Software enforces this. (There was some debate about
whether
Hi Adam,
> Just to follow up on this: the Kiwi container build test failure
> pointed to some changes that will be required to the Fedora kiwi config
> when this change lands. I have filed a PR for that -
> https://pagure.io/fedora-kiwi-descriptions/pull-request/46 - which
> should only be
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 11:16:28AM GMT, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2024-04-26 at 08:56 +0200, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > Personally, I think this is a beta requirement.
> > >
> >
> > IIUC the Fedora 41 Beta requirement is to successfully upgrade the system
> > from Fedora
On Wed, 2024-04-24 at 22:56 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2024-04-25 at 07:42 +0200, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > We've prepared a side-tag for testing Rawhide with dnf5 as the default
> > package manager. Instructions for installing the packages from the side-tag
> >
On Fri, 2024-04-26 at 08:56 +0200, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Personally, I think this is a beta requirement.
> >
>
> IIUC the Fedora 41 Beta requirement is to successfully upgrade the system
> from Fedora 40, as mentioned here:
>
Hi Jan,
On Fri Apr 26, 2024 at 08:46 +0200, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> Hi Maxwell,
>
> This contains an update to dnf 5.2.0 which has breaking API changes. I did
> > not
> > see these communicated anywhere and the Change Proposal did not mention
> > that
> > the update would include a major version
Jan Kolarik venit, vidit, dixit 2024-04-26 08:56:48:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Personally, I think this is a beta requirement.
> >
>
> IIUC the Fedora 41 Beta requirement is to successfully upgrade the system
> from Fedora 40, as mentioned here:
>
Hi Kevin,
Personally, I think this is a beta requirement.
>
IIUC the Fedora 41 Beta requirement is to successfully upgrade the system
from Fedora 40, as mentioned here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_upgrade_dnf_current_workstation.
So this still relates to the dnf4 package, which
Hi Maxwell,
This contains an update to dnf 5.2.0 which has breaking API changes. I did
> not
> see these communicated anywhere and the Change Proposal did not mention
> that
> the update would include a major version bump at the same time as the
> switch to
> dnf5 as default.
>
You're right; we
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:42:57AM GMT, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> Hello Michael,
>
> Does this mean that distro-upgrade from F41 to F42 is supposed to work
> > at F41 release time (ideally at beta time)?
> >
>
> Yes, the system-upgrade functionality should be available before the Fedora
> 41
>
Hi Jan,
On Thu Apr 25, 2024 at 07:42 +0200, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> We've prepared a side-tag for testing Rawhide with dnf5 as the default
> package manager. Instructions for installing the packages from the side-tag
> can be found at the following link [1].
> [1]
Hello Michael,
Does this mean that distro-upgrade from F41 to F42 is supposed to work
> at F41 release time (ideally at beta time)?
>
Yes, the system-upgrade functionality should be available before the Fedora
41
release date. We're planning extensive testing for this, including a Fedora
Testing
Hi Mattia,
Yep, there's a dnf5-testing COPR that serves exactly this purpose:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/rpmsoftwaremanagement/dnf5-testing.
Jan
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 10:10 AM Mattia Verga via devel <
devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Il 25/04/24 07:42, Jan Kolarik ha
Jan Kolarik venit, vidit, dixit 2024-04-25 07:42:10:
> Hello everyone,
>
> We've prepared a side-tag for testing Rawhide with dnf5 as the default
> package manager. Instructions for installing the packages from the side-tag
> can be found at the following link [1].
>
> Please provide feedback in
Il 25/04/24 07:42, Jan Kolarik ha scritto:
> Hello everyone,
>
> We've prepared a side-tag for testing Rawhide with dnf5 as the default
> package manager. Instructions for installing the packages from the
> side-tag can be found at the following link [1].
>
> Please provide feedback in Bodhi or
On Thu, 2024-04-25 at 07:42 +0200, Jan Kolarik wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> We've prepared a side-tag for testing Rawhide with dnf5 as the default
> package manager. Instructions for installing the packages from the side-tag
> can be found at the following link [1].
>
> Please provide feedback
Hello everyone,
We've prepared a side-tag for testing Rawhide with dnf5 as the default
package manager. Instructions for installing the packages from the side-tag
can be found at the following link [1].
Please provide feedback in Bodhi or on this mailing list regarding the use
cases you're
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