[digitalradio] Re: KV9U - MT63

2009-03-21 Thread Tony
Rick, You have done the tests and found that MT-63 is not very good at handling weak signals compared with other modes. It is less sensitive than others, but some of the most sensitive modes are not necessarily the best performers when conditions deteriorate. I think it's reasonably

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread Jaak Hohensee
Tony wrote: The most impressive thing about MT63 is how it seems to resist heavy static crashes. I made a few recordings with short segments of the signal removed to simulate this type of QRN and there was little effect on copy. What about THOR? Thor stated to be more static-proof.

[digitalradio] Re: Pocket Digi

2009-03-21 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
Hi Sholto. Check Pat's page: http://www.n0hr.com/PocketDigi/PocketDigi_Tigertronics_Interface.htm He states that your device has 4 contact earphone jack, the added ring probably connects to microphone input. You could either buy an Y cable or build it yourself. Mouser stocks the 3.5mm 4 pole

[digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and linux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Rein Couperus
Here is a new and very much improved version of the java pskmail client The client was completely rewritten in java in a team effort by SM0RWO and PA0R. PSKmail adds APRS and ARQ capability to Fldigi 3.10, and uses several digital modes depending on band conditions: PSK63, PSK125, PSK250, THOR22,

Re: [digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and linux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Andy obrien
This VERY good news , thanks for all the work. I have it loaded under Windows XP, now I just have to read and figure out where to find a server. Should be a good project for the weekend. Andy K3UK On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com wrote: Here is a new and very

Re: [digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and linux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Andy obrien
I forgot to mention that the intergration with FL-Digi seems to work very well Andy On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote: This VERY good news , thanks for all the work.  I have it loaded under Windows XP, now I just have to read and figure out where to find a

Re: [digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and linux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Andy obrien
I guess I will wait for conditions favourable to connect to a server, 20M seems like my best bet this morning. Am I correct in thinking that is the server list shows a station with an SSID, I should put it in the link To box as DK4XI-2 ? cK3UK:1024 DK4XI-2:24 5A7F6 When the list says No QSY

Re: [digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and linux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Andy obrien
and one more question. If I select PSK250 in jpskmail , and then execute a connect request, FL-Digi transmits in PSK31. Do we need to set BOTH FL-Digi and jpskmail to the same mode? I guess it makes sense but i am wondering why there would be a mode choice in jpskmail if fldigi did all the

Re: [digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and lin ux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Rein Couperus
That is correct, linkto = DK4XI-2. QSY means you can ask the server to go to a traffic frequency, which is normally 500 Hz higher than the APRS frequency. Used here in EU on 10148.5 73, Rein PA0R -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Gesendet: 21.03.09

Re: [digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and lin ux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Rein Couperus
You can send a mode command to fldigi from the jpskmail client. - Mode menu. Default is PSK250. Actually, in the original perl client for linux you can ask the server to change the mode once you are connected. This has not yet been implemented in the java client. Rein PA0R

Re: [digitalradio] jpskmail client for windows and lin ux adds HF APRS and ARQ to Fldigi

2009-03-21 Thread Rein Couperus
You can have a look at where the servers are at http://hermes.esrac.ele.tue.nl/maps/pskmailers.php The blue blips are the servers. Rein PA0R I guess I will wait for conditions favourable to connect to a server, 20M seems like my best bet this morning. -- http://pa0r.blogspirit.com

RE: [digitalradio] Re: KV9U - MT63

2009-03-21 Thread David Little
Also the redundancy of the FEC treatment in MT-63 allows it to give 100% accuracy with 25% loss of data. In actual use, Olivia will do better under worse conditions at a large loss of speed. Contestia attempts to bridge the gap, but MT-63 gives the highest accurate through put at the highest

Re: [digitalradio] Re: KV9U - MT63

2009-03-21 Thread Rick W
MARS has a different situation than the ham bands since you have a dedicated phone communications bandwidth channel. And from what I hear operators can use phone and data simultaneously with MT-63. We can not do that on the ham bands below VHF here in the U.S. I normally try to keep the modes

RE: [digitalradio] Re: KV9U - MT63

2009-03-21 Thread David Little
Cortland, We also use it in Region 4, but mostly 1K long interleave. We have used 2k under good band conditions, and the speed is very impressive. We are also experimenting with the text transmission capabilities of Easypal. David KD4NUE -Original Message- From:

Re: [digitalradio] Re: KV9U - MT63

2009-03-21 Thread Cortland Richmond
MT63 was I think the first really accessible I can't see it mode that could deliver printable copy. Our default *slow* digital mode is Olivia 32 bit 1K, but it is interesting that 16 bit is preferred by the cognoscenti. For relatively short messages, speed is of less concern and Olivia

[digitalradio] Signs of live : PSKMail 30M

2009-03-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
I have not managed a connect yet, but did find signs of life using PSK250 on 10146 (centre freq) IS0(RB-3:72 Pskmail_Server_0.8.1-10148KHz-Sardinia (Fldigi 3.10 baYIn 400uWB5CON:72 Pskmail v.0.8 00cC56DL:1024 PI4TUE:27200uDK4XI-0:72 INTERMAR PSKAPe Seems that the FL-Digi

[digitalradio] Re: Signs of life : PSKMail 30M

2009-03-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
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Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread Tony
Jaak, What about THOR? Thor stated to be more static-proof. It depends which THOR mode is used. It seems THOR-22 is the best of the bunch for static crash resistance. I've done a few static crash tests by generating noise at regular intervals; the noise obliterates the signal in short bursts.

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signs of life : PSKMail 30M

2009-03-21 Thread Tommi Holopainen
Same problem here, AFC vy restless.. -Tommi OH7JJT- Andrew O'Brien kirjoitti: Seems that the FL-Digi waterfall pointer really jumps around at PSK250, AFC seems to catch it though. SSame

[digitalradio] AFC in FL-Digi

2009-03-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Tommi, I tightened up the AFC in FL-DIGI , that helped . CONFIGURE SOUNDCARD MODEMS PSK then set the range. I went with 100 Hz. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tommi Holopainen oh7...@... wrote: Same problem here, AFC vy restless.. -Tommi OH7JJT- Andrew O'Brien

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signs of life : PSKMail 30M

2009-03-21 Thread Rick W
What should be the set frequency? If the listed frequency of the server is 10.148, does that mean the center frequency? Therefore, if you have the center frequency set at 1500 Hz audio, you would put the rig at 10.146.5 USB dial frequency? 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: Looks like I

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread kh6ty
Tony, Static crash resistance is not the only parameter to consider. The problem is that you can have static and weak signals at the same time. MT63-1000 has a -5 dB minimum S/N, but MFSK16 has a -13.5 dB minimum S/N, so the static tests you made must be at signal levels high enough that

Re: [digitalradio] THOR is static-proof (Re: KV9U - MT63)

2009-03-21 Thread kh6ty
Tony, Further complicating the static crash test conclusions is the effect of the static on the receiver AGC. If a long AGC constant is being used, the static crash is going to desensitize the receiver for as long as the AGC holds the receiver sensitivity above the decoding threshold. In such

[digitalradio] Re: Signs of life : PSKMail 30M

2009-03-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rick W mrf...@... wrote: What should be the set frequency? If the listed frequency of the server is 10.148, does that mean the center frequency? Therefore, if you have the center frequency set at 1500 Hz audio, you would put the rig at 10.146.5 USB

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Signs of life : PSKMail 30M

2009-03-21 Thread kh6ty
That's right, Andy. PSKmail uses fldigi and at Rein's request, the sweet spot default in fldigi is 1000 Hz. 73, Skip KH6TY NBEMS Development Team - Original Message - From: Andrew O'Brien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:41 PM Subject:

[digitalradio] PSKmail QRG and features/issues

2009-03-21 Thread Rick W
Of course, about 1 minute after I sent the message, I discovered the information on the center frequency and it is as I had hoped. But ... Wow! Just tried out some of the PSKmail features and find it very interesting. Once I realized that the Ping command will bring up any of the servers that

[digitalradio] PSKMAIL --- Gmail?

2009-03-21 Thread Andrew O'Brien
How is gmail set up for pskmail ? Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail QRG and features/issues

2009-03-21 Thread kh6ty
Rick wrote: It was very difficult to actually use the frequency due to many other stations transmitting on top of the server and my signals. What! You were on the frequency first and someone transmitted over top of you? Don't they always listen first? ;-) Therefore, we must be very grateful

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail QRG and features/issues

2009-03-21 Thread Rick W
My preference would be to follow the band plan. Assuming I understand things correctly, on 30 meters it is intended that modes up to 2700 Hz remain in the 10.140 - 10.150 sub band and all narrow digimodes (500 Hz or less) in the 10.130 - 10.140, with 10.100 - 10.130 for CW. There is no comment

[digitalradio] Re: Pocket Digi

2009-03-21 Thread Vojtech Bubnik
By the way is PocketDigi still being developed? Just hoped there would be an update someday soon :) Hi Sholto. I am doing some improvements, but very slowly. Actually I have the DXCC database and calculation of bearing/distance ready for about a year already, I just waited to get more new