[digitalradio] NZ4O Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2010-04

2010-01-22 Thread Thomas F. Giella NZ4O
The NZ4O Daily LF/MF/HF/6M Frequency Radiowave Propagation Forecast #2010-04 has been published on Friday 01/22/2009 at 1000 UTC, valid UTC Saturday 01/23/2010 through 2359 UTC Friday 01/23/2009 at http://www.solarcycle24.org . 73 GUD DX, Thomas F. Giella, NZ4O Lakeland, FL, USA

[digitalradio] Re: Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity

2010-01-22 Thread Vojtech
Here is another, similar chart: http://www.dxatlas.com/RttyCompare/ I was comparing MMTTY with MultiPSK and gMFSK against RTTY in white noise. Interesting observation was that MMTTY was better than MultiPSK at better than marginal SNR, but MultiPSK was slightly better than MMTTY at very low

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity

2010-01-22 Thread Wes Cosand
Both yours and Alex's graphs show superiority of TrueRTTY and MixW. I wonder whether TrueRTTY is doing synchronous detection. This is what I plan to try when I retire, hi. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK TrueTTY also gave results better than any other package tested for MFSK16. Wes, WZ7I

[digitalradio] TrueTTY

2010-01-22 Thread Andy obrien
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Wes Cosand wes.cos...@gmail.com wrote: Both yours and Alex's graphs show superiority of TrueRTTY and MixW. I wonder whether TrueRTTY is doing synchronous detection. This is what I plan to try when I retire, hi. 73, Vojtech OK1IAK TrueTTY also gave

Re: [digitalradio] TrueTTY

2010-01-22 Thread Wes Cosand
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Wes Cosand wes.cos...@gmail.comwes.cosand%40gmail.com wrote: Both yours and Alex's graphs show superiority of TrueRTTY and MixW. I wonder whether TrueRTTY is doing synchronous

Re: [digitalradio] TrueTTY

2010-01-22 Thread VE3FAL-Fred
I have had a registered copy for about 8 years now and love the program, absolutely worth it.. Fred VE3FAL On Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:32:06 -0500 Wes Cosand wes.cos...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:17 AM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:00 AM,

[digitalradio] Re: Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity

2010-01-22 Thread jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Vojtech bubn...@... wrote: Both yours and Alex's graphs show superiority of TrueRTTY and MixW. I wonder whether TrueRTTY is doing synchronous detection. This is what I plan to try when I retire, hi. There used to be the K6STI RITTY program which

[digitalradio] Re: Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity

2010-01-22 Thread jhaynesatalumni
Now I don't know about TrueTTY, but MMTTY has a number of things you can play with in terms of the filtering and detection, so I wonder if we could get some comparisons of those - or at least tell us what the setup was when it was tested. Jim W6JVE

[digitalradio] Comparison of MFSK16 software sensitivity

2010-01-22 Thread Wes Cosand
Folk: I have conducted an experiment comparing the sensitivity of several software programs for MFSK16 similar to those just posted for RTTY. The data in the MFSK16 tests were a little tighter than in the RTTY experiment, presumably because of the absence of the profound effect of stochastic

Re: [digitalradio] Comparison of MFSK16 software sensitivity

2010-01-22 Thread Phil Williams
I am their first MFSK16 QSO and it is usually because they are running one of the packages that has RSID This has been my experience too. I operate THOR4 and Contestia. Most first time QSOs are with the aid of RSID. philw de ka1gmn On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Wes Cosand

[digitalradio] Re: TrueTTY

2010-01-22 Thread sholtofish
Andy, I have had a registered copy of TruTTY for years and it constantly outperforms any other program for RTTY. I also think the MFSK-16 and PSK31 implementations are excellent too. Well worth the money if you need a simple to operate, processor non-intensive application. It also interfaces

[digitalradio] PSK/ digital mode SDR software ?

2010-01-22 Thread Andy obrien
My shack PC has some resource issues when using the only software that I know of that has some digital mode SDR support, Multipsk. This is because it requires Multipsk AND a SDR software to be used in tandem. The TWO applications are more than my system can handle. I do have CW Skimmer that

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity

2010-01-22 Thread Dave AA6YQ
MMTTY provides a choice of three different RTTY decoders, with the ability to shape the filters for each. There is also an optional bandpass filter and an optional notch filter, with user control of shape for each. As a first step in improving MMTTY's RTTY decoding performance, I am determining

[digitalradio] Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity - New tests

2010-01-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Wes and all, I tried here Multipsk versus Mixw at -9 dB of S/N in RTTY 45 (I have not TRUETTY but they seem to be equivalent). I tested with a text and the Multipsk decoding was better than the Mixw one . However, in RTTY the ITA2 set of character is used so it is difficult to compare

Re: [digitalradio] PSK/ digital mode SDR software ?

2010-01-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Andy, is because it requires Multipsk AND a SDR software to be used in Multipsk works alone on SdR (RX/TX). You don't need another SdR (and surely it would be a mess to work with two SdR programs doing the same thing). Simply, indicate in Multipsk which sound card (or sound cards if a speaker

Re: [digitalradio] PSK/ digital mode SDR software ?

2010-01-22 Thread Andy obrien
I'm sorry I don't understand Patrick. How do you start the SDR's reception in Multipsk ? The SDR I have is not playing audio until usual SDR software starts the receiver and audio flows . I do not see that in Multipsk ? Andy K3UK On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Patrick Lindecker

Re: [digitalradio] PSK/ digital mode SDR software ?

2010-01-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Andy, By default, for digital RX/TX, you don't strictly need to hear the sound. When you pushed on I/Q interface Direct via the sound card, you could RX/TX just selecting the desired signal on the waterfall. Now if you want to hear the received sound (the base band demodulated one, not the

Re: [digitalradio] Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity - New tests

2010-01-22 Thread Wes Cosand
Patrick, thank you for your kind note. I discovered, as you have known for a long time, that testing RTTY is not easy because of random figures/letters shifts. As you said, a single inappropriate shift can mess up a lot of characters! That makes the statistics difficult. My test text file is

AW: [digitalradio] Digital modes with an SDR ?

2010-01-22 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
Dear Andy What sdr and what trx are you using? I use a icom 765 with a homebrewd downconverter … not a real sdr but I can use the software that is built for if of 12khz And it is possible to connect powersdr with hrd to control the trx A friend from me did this with his kenwood ts2000 (no

Re: [digitalradio] Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity - New tests

2010-01-22 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Wes, I saw the test file. It is nice except the long suite of figures, which could be a cause of possible systematic failure (with many errors following a first error) . Better would be to keep only the call signs which include figures and letters and produce a good diversity (and so a

Re: [digitalradio] Comparison of RTTY software sensitivity - New tests

2010-01-22 Thread Wes Cosand
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Patrick Lindecker f6...@free.fr wrote: Hello Wes, I saw the test file. It is nice except the long suite of figures, which could be a cause of possible systematic failure (with many errors following a first error) . Better would be to keep only the call