us the opportunity to
experiment and play with new modes. If it wasn't for them, we'd still be
lugging those heavy RTTY machines into the shack ; ).
Tony -K2MO
.
Hope to see you there...
Tony -K2MO
on the air.
Keep the faith...
Tony -K2MO
All,
The Icom 706 was sold. The Kenwood TS-570S (HF/6M) is still available.
The rig was purchased new and is in excellent condition. Comes with
500Hz CW filter, manual, hand mic and power cable.
Please reply direct - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Tony -K2MO
Gil,
The software identifies the device and finds the vendor.
Tony, K2MO
rojomn wrote:
I assume that program soes automatically the tyupe of thing I was
talking about. It is good that such a program exists, it surely makes
it easier J
Glad you got it going and GL.
Gil, W0MN http
All,
Have a USB CAT cable for an Icom 706MkIIG and need the driver for it.
There's no name on the cable so I have no idea who the manufacturer is.
Is there a generic driver I can use? Running Windows XP.
Thanks,
Tony, K2MO
Gil,
Thanks for the info. Solved the problem using a program called Unknown
Device Identifier. See link below.
http://www.zhangduo.com/udi.html
Tony, K2MO
rojomn wrote:
If you have not tried it yet , give it a try. In many cases the driver
will
be in XP or the generic driver built
All,
Station E73BL is QRV Olivia 32/1K 14105.0 (+1500). It's 2150z
Tony, K2MO
All,
V25JK is QRV 14075.0 (+1000hz) Feld Hell mode. He's running a portable setup
wid laptop PC, Icom 706 and 30 feet of hookup wire for an antenna. Nice
signal as of 2210z.
Tony, K2MO
All,
I'll be QRV MT63 / Contestia / Thor-22 this evening starting around 2230z.
Frequency -- 14106.0 USB
Tony, K2MO
during the test.
The other modes; RTTY, Contestia and MT63 were added for comparison. The
Contestia 8 tone / 500hz mode shows some promise; it seems to have about the
same wpm rate as Thor-22 and it would seem that throughput is quite a bit
better -- see tests #2 and #3.
Just a thought..
Tony
All,
I'll be QRV on MT63 at 2200z. Skeds welcome...
Frequency -- 14106.0 +/- QRM
Tony, K2MO
is unique to Thor or is the mode simply less
tolerable to signal spread as the path simulator indicates.
Tony, KHMU
- Original Message -
From: Rick W [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] THOR robustness or lack
is unique to Thor or is the mode simply less
tolerable to signal spread as the path simulator indicates.
Tony, K2MO
All,
I'm QRV MT63 / Contestia (1k 16 tone) / 14106.0 USB @ 2230z ~ 0030z.
Tony, K2MO
All,
I'm QRV -- MT63 (1k) / Conestia (1k / 16) / 14106.0 USB / 2330z. I'll be
here a while...
Tony, K2MO
about the HF path simulator here:
http://www.moetronix.com/ae4jy/files/pathsimtech100.pdf
For fldigi:
Selected sampling rate
Selected converter
PPM offset for Rx
I have the Vista version...
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: David Freese [EMAIL PROTECTED
and the mode continues to print despite the missing
'chunks'. As you say, this could be due to the difference in modulation speeds.
Is there an alternative mode that I can test that might have similar
characteristics?
Thanks,
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL
All,
I'll be QRV MT63 this evening starting 2200z -- 14106.0 USB.
Tony, K2MO
.
I'm not sure if that's an accurate assessment as to why there is a difference,
but it would seem so. Wonder if anyone can shed some light on this.
Tony, K2MO
Path Simulation : Selective Fading
SNR : -3db / -6db
Contestia 1K / 16 tone
SNR -3db
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY
All,
I'll be QRV MT63 tonight starting 2200z.
Frequency - 14106.0 USB
Tony, K2MO
a screen shot in the files section.
Tony, K2MO
Tony, would not this work if the user just switched their digital mode
software to a different input, just like we do when playing back a
wav file or something ?
Andy,
You could use the sound card loop-back method with an audio cable. You need
to send the incoming internet audio coming from
All,
Uploaded a short video of the MT63 mode in action. The video shows how robust
the mode can be when faced with heavy QRM. I was monitoring EA3AQS at the time
when a Pactor station popped up in the middle of his signal.
See MT63_Pactor_QRM_20M.wmv in the digital radio file section.
Tony
All,
I'll be QRV on MT63 starting 2200z. Should be around for an hour or two.
Frequency -- 14106.0 USB
Mode -- 1K / long Interleave
Tony, K2MO
EA3AQS calling CQ on 14109.0 MT63 @ 2100z.
21:Ø2:13z - 6 Oct 2ØØ8
cq cq de EA3AQS EA3AQS EA3AQS
cq cq de EA3AQS EA3AQS EA3AQS
pse k
Andy,
I saw a 1000 wide MT63 sigal, alas no decode.
Must have been Abel (EA3AQS). He was calling for a while. Were you using
IZ8BLY's MT63 Terminal?
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008
and it will decode signals that are just audible. Wish
we were further apart for 20 meters. I need to get something in the air for 80.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:21 PM
Subject: Re
Thanks to VE5MU, W6JVE and EA3AQS for the MT63 Q's today...
I'll be QRV tomorrow afternoon / evening (EST) on 14106.0 USB.
73,
Tony, K2MO
All,
I'm QRV 14106.0 USB / MT63 -- 0100z. I'll be listening for the next hour.
Tony, K2MO
I plan to propose (in the next Multipsk version) a possibility to route
the
voice to the output of a second sound card, so to simplify the use for
blind
Hams.
I admire that Patrick. You certainly deserve praise for your work.
Thanks...
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From
Dave,
The question is whether any app is being starved for CPU
resources during critical operations.
Is there a way to tell if that is happening?
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:19
Tnx Tony for my first qso on MT63 sri the band went out so soon tnx agn
Russell
My pleasure Russell. Your signal was just fine when you called, but the band
changed quickly after that. I'll be on tomorrow (Saturday) evening so stop
by if you get a chance.
Tony, K2MO
. That would allow speech with any
mode.
Just a thought.
Tony, K2MO
Patrick,
Thanks for the info on the Voice mode. I've noticed that the vocalization
audio is sent to the sound card output that goes to the rig. Is there a way
to route it to the PC speakers instead?
Thanks,
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED
simulator. Throughput is the same for
each program whether they are tested individually or all at once.
Not sure if the performance monitor is telling the whole story when it comes to
CPU usage, but I would assume the processor is loafing along at 30%.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From
All,
I'm QRV on MT63 / 14106.0 USB @ 2245z.
Tony, K2MO
Andy,
Think we're too close for 20 meters, but you never know. Just worked Jim
(W6JVE). Have my ears open Andy...
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio
Rick,
Beautiful signal here in Louisiana . . . no clue to how to tune it on DM
780
Give a call and I'll tune you in...
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: r_lwesterfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 7:03 PM
Subject: RE
.
Thanks again Jim...
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: jhaynesatalumni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: QRV MT63 14106
I think it would be more useful if you would announce your
plans to be operating
All,
QRV MT63 -- 14106.0 @ 2330z
Tony, K2MO
All,
EA3AQS CQ'ing on MT63 - 14109.0 @ 2100z.
Tony, K2MO
Hello Tony,
The sample rate on Multipsk is 11025 samples/s for all modes except in
MT63
where it is 8000. 73 Patrick
Thanks for the info Patrick.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September
Hi Dave,
Hi Tony.have you tried fldigi.. MT63
Yes I have. The simulator says it decodes about as well as IZ8BLY's
software.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: Re
unlike PSK31 that mostly utilize the same 'core, other modes my well
require comparison tests to determine which is consistently better.
Andy K3UK
Very interesting Andy. Patrick (F6CTE) motioned that sound card sampling
accuracy plays a role with MT63.
Tony, K2MO
Rick,
When I have done some crude comparisons with actual off air tests
between different programs, there is usually not a lot of difference
I'm interested in your test method.
Tony, K2MO
and then the MT63 tab. Check the
64 bit interleave box. This will solve the problem.
Fldigi's MT63 decode capability seems identical to IZ8BLY's.
Tony, K2MO
All,
I'm QRV MT63 14106.0 USB @ 2245z. I'll be here for a while.
Tony, K2MO
.
The other two required an SNR of -5db and -6db. The outcome was the same
whether I ran the programs simultaneously or one at a time.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Dave AA6YQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:14 PM
Subject
What were the sampling rates used by each of those 5 applications, Tony?
73, Dave, AA6YQ
Dave,
The sample rates were 11025 Hz for Mixw and IZ8BLY MT63 terminal. Looks like
8000 Hz for DM780 and Multipsk. Not sure what's going on with Fldigi. I'm
using the Vista version.
Tony, K2MO
for Vista. Everything else works fine.
Good luck with your new machine...
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: kd7jeh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:35 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Sound card and Vista
Hello to the group,
I am
FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
SNR -3db
HE QUIK3,ROWS F'XexMn OVER THE L/ZY DOG
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY D+G
THE QUICK BRWg FOX JMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
Thanks for all Patrick.
Tony, K2MO
at a time or
simultaneously. Not sure why this is; would appreciate it if someone can shed
some light on this. I plan to run each program on-the-air to see if the results
change.
Tony, K2MO
Test #1: SNR -6db selective fading
Test #2: SNR -3db selective fading
Test #3: SNR -3db selective fading
All,
I'm QRV MT63 (1K long interleave) 14106.0 USB -- 2230z.
Tony, K2MO
All,
I'll be QRV on 14106.0 MT63 / 1K this evening at 2200z.
Tony, K2MO
Is this the old program from Nino or something new?
Nothing new Andy -- it's pretty much the same as when it was first released.
Tony, K2MO
Hi Tony,
I copied you about 80% here in central NC. I never did hear any of the other
stations you were
working. I gave you a call but just did not have good prop. 73 Buddy WB4M
Thanks for the effort Buddy. Hope to catch you next time. As you know, the 1K
mode is very fast (100 wpm) and my
Andy,
Please see attached for the latest digital mode HF path simulation tests.
Added WSJT modes including WSPR.
Tony - K2MO
Path Simulator Tests.rtf
Description: Binary data
Since those of us who read the group with the web browser don't
get attachments to emails, please place a copy in the files section
as well. Jim W6JVE
Just finished uploading it Jim...
Tony -K2MO
product!
Tony, K2MO
Subject: [digitalradio] How to increase the solar flux
FYI, go to http://www.solarflux.com/Pages/Howtouse.html to increase
the solar flux at your shack.
--
Andy K3UK
...
Tony, K2MO
Static Crash Simulation.
MT63 1K
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
MT63 500Hz
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG
THE QUICK
this
without having two modems. There's also the issue of putting the sound card
path simulator in line. Guess it could be done.
Thanks for the kind words Thomas
Best regards,
Tony - K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Osterried [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday
Tony, last week there was MT63 activity on 14109 but 14106 also seems
to have been used. Andy K3UK
Thanks for passing that along Andy. Spot history does seem to be a pretty good
indicator of mode activity. I guess it's safe to assume that only a small
percentage of MT63 activity gets spotted
Hi Tony Well I am still around and when we get some conditions
back again so that a qso is possible you will find me on mt63
again on the old frequency. Les VK2DSG
That would be nice Les. I've been hearing VK occasionally on 20 meters around
2200z on both the long and short path. Wonder
know when you're QRV John. Can sked with you this weekend. The mode
is certainly robust; does very well with static crashes and QRM.
Tony -K2MO
- Original Message -
From: John Becker, WØJAB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 2:37 PM
Subject
All,
The NVIS simulations are complete. Chip 64 was added to the simulator list.
Comments / suggestions welecom.
Tony, K2MO
Digital Mode HF Path Simulations
Complied by Anthony Bombardiere, K2MO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Path Simulator by Moe Wheatley, AE4JY
Digital mode Software
distortion. The two modes have a
surplus of sensitivty though and should do well when conditons are very stable.
Thank you Patrick...
Tony, K2MO
Digital Mode HF Path Simulations
Complied by Anthony Bombardiere, K2MO
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Path Simulator by Moe Wheatley, AE4JY
Digital mode
Patrick,
Regarding Chip, it could interesting to test Chip 64
I'll add Chip 64 and 128 to the list this evening. I'll send it as soon as
I'm finished.
Thanks for all Patrick...
Tony, K2MO
Patrick,
Please see below. Added the modes you requested to the HF path simulation
tests.
ALE400 (unproto)
PSK10
PSKAM10
RSID
Video ID
Tony, K2MO
+
Sensitivity Test #1 Minimum SNR(no Ionosphere distortion)This test was
conducted to reveal
Patrick,
If you have some spare time, some modes would be interesting to be tested
(with Multipsk): PSK10, PSKAM10
No problem. I'll send the results in a day or two.
Tony, K2MO
Hello Tony,
RR for all.
If you have some spare time, some modes would be interesting to be tested
Patrick,
Hello Tony, Glad you did measures for Pax.
My pleasure; thanks for adding the mode to Multipsk!
My figures are the following: Lowest S/N : - 10 dB for PAX and - 7 dB for
PAX2. It corresponds to a Gaussian noise without any ionospheric
distortion (your
first case.
Just tested PAX
in practice
when conditions are relatively quiet.
Tony, K2MO
_
PAX: Sensitivity threshold for 100% decode: -2db (no ionospheric distortion)
Ionospheric Simulations:
High-Latitude Moderate.Complete decdoe @ +2db SNR
Greetings Patrick,
Hello Tony, TKS for the interesting tests. Did you test PAX or PAX2? with
Unproto frames?
73 Patrick
I used PAX2 with Unproto frames during the test. Haven't figured out how to
test in the 'connect' mode yet. I just finished testing PAX 1 so please
see below. PAX has
Greetings Patrick,
Hello Tony, TKS for the interesting tests. Did you test PAX or PAX2? with
Unproto frames?
73 Patrick
I used PAX2 with Unproto frames during the test. Haven't figured out how to
test in the 'connect' mode yet. I just finished testing PAX 1 so please
see below. PAX has
Fred,
What program are you guys running for this mode??
Fred VE3FAL
Multipsk by Patrick, F6CTE.
http://f6cte.free.fr/index_anglais.htm
Tony, K2MO
at
3KHz. I believe each mode would still behave the same when subjected to
simulated ionospheric disturbances regardless of whether the bandwidth was 3KHz
or just wide enough to wrap around the mode.
Good question though Mark...
Tony, K2MO
My pleasure Mark...
Tony, thanks the bandwidth is 3K for all modes that is what was
throwing me. I was thinking S/N = Eb/No. I see my mistake now.
I'm going to include the bandwidth in the list to avoid any confusion with
the SNR figures. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Tony, K2MO
to add a few modes for NVIS and hopefully shed some light on what
works. Multi-path timing delays between the direct path and sky wave are said
to be as high as 20ms with NVIS. My guess is that some modes will not print at
all with timing issue of that magnitude.
Tony, K2MO
just weaker than the noise.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Path Simulator Test - PSK FEC31
If the SNR is negative, how
, but it did not handle frequency spread (Doppler) very well. (see
below).
As you already mentioned, it must work just fine on LF frequencies where it was
intended to be used. Forgot all about the Jason mode so thanks for the info
Sholto...
Tony, K2MO
Jason Software
http://www.sdrham.com/jason
his latest Satellite Tracker is something that has to be seen
to be believed
Sure is neat Andy...
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: DIGITALRADIO digitalradio@yahoogroups.com;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 7:47 AM
Subject
The Digital Voice Net takes place every Saturday and Sunday at 1900 UTC.
Tony, K2MO
PS: we are aware of the audio artifact / open squelch issue.
Andy,
Thanks for the N2JEU SW receiver site. Need to find a few more like it. Lots
of buffering on the audio, but it does work well. It is a shared resource so
air time is limited.
Tony, K2MO
Stan,
This may help -- http://www.w4mq.com/
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: mhz14071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Remote CW over the internet
My setup is basically a PC with digital mode
All,
Anyone know of any online receivers / remote base stations on the internet?
The W4MQ remote base seems to be having problems these days. Often use
remotes on HF/VHF for meteor scatter / digital mode tests.
Thanks,
Tony, K2MO
thanks for the mmvari info i finally got software for mfsk 31
MATTHEW A. GREGORY
KC2PUA
My pleasure Matthew.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message
From: Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 4:49:48 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Multi-Mode
All,
I'll be QRV on 20 meter MFSK31 this evening starting around 0330z. I'll be
monitoring Andy's sked page http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/index.html and
e-mails.
Makato Mori's (JE3HTT) Mmvari program works well with MFSK31.
MMVARI Downloads - http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/MMvari/
Tony
/RTTY.
73, Tony Heatwole, N3FX
/ feedback welcome.
Tony, K2MO
PS: Thought I'd mention MFSK31 for those want a fast mode with a tolerance for
adverse conditions.
See http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/MMvari/
_
Sensitivity Test - Direct Path
(no ionospheric disturbance
with wide-band modes like MT63 and was wondering if there's anything we can
tell about the refracting layers, phase and so on using this mode or
something similar?
Thanks,
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent
/sec etc.
A steady signal source like WWV might be useful for this kind of measurement as
well.
Tony, K2MO
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Lindecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: KV9U
All,
Digital voice net (FDMDV) in progress 1915z -- 14236.0 USB.
Tony, K2MO
so one mode is not any louder or weaker than another.
Tony, K2MO
Kings Park, NY
__
Sensitivity Test ( lowest SNR that will produce 100% decode)
(DIRECT PATH - NO IONOSPHERIC DISTURBANCE)
RTTY 45... -5db
Feld Hell
to send it.
Yes, I have a copy of Ionos here. I use Pathsim because it has standard HF
path simulations on file, but either will work.
Try ZL1BPU for the MFSK16 / Olivia details http://www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/ . Let me
know if you find what you're looking for.
Thanks Jose,
Tony, K2MO
Kings Park, NY
.
Glad to see the enthusiasm Patrick! It's the stuff that keeps the hobby
alive.
Tony, K2MO
Kings Park, NY
- Original Message -
From: Patrick Novak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re
(see captured text below).
We certainly are lucky as digital ops to have a variety of modes to choose
from. Whether it's rag-chewing or dxing, it's nice to have the ability to
switch to suit conditions.
Tony, K2MO
Kings Park, NY
__
e2MO de VKPN VA2PN pse kn o e
Patrick,
Thanks for passing along my regards to Les. Have a few screenshots of our
MT63 QSO's from the early days when the mode was first introduced. I
should send it to him, he may get a kick out of seeing that.
Look for you on 20 meters 0500 ~ 0600z.
Tony, K2MO
Kings Park, NY
All,
Digital Voice Net in progress - Sunday 1900z - 14236.0
Tony, K2MO
All,
Rare one on 20 meter RTTY. Station JX/SQ4MP is QRV on 14085.0 FSK listening
up. Still there as of 23:40z.
GL
Tony, K2MO
.
Regards,
Tony, K2MO
Kings Park, NY
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