AW: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-24 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? You must configure your receiver without any king filter. ROS filter the signal better than the transceiver. Please: DONT APPLY FILTERS TO YOUR TRANSCEIVERS. _ De: Ugo ugo.dep...@me.com Para

Re: AW: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-24 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
You are right De: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackst...@freenet.de Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: jue,25 febrero, 2010 01:19 Asunto: AW: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   As i know it is about 2.5khz wide … so a “normal” ssb filter would work

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-23 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio@yahoogroups.com CC: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: mar,23 febrero, 2010 07:40 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   Hi All.  Just a question, and please, be patient if I'm asking this... I'm a SWL and I

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Howard Brown
Aside from the legal aspect, does anyone have an opinion as to whether the limited hopping (within the 3khz that it hops) helps the robustness of the waveform? If it makes a tremendous difference, maybe we should all work to get it accepted. Howard K5HB

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
Howard, After monitoring 14.101 continuously for two days, I find the following: 1. CW signals (of narrow width, of course) during this past weekend contest often disrupted decoding, and it looks like it was not desensitization due to AGC capture, as the ROS signals on the waterfall did not

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 9:55:11 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   Aside from the legal aspect, does anyone have an opinion as to whether the limited hopping (within the 3khz that it hops) helps the robustness of the waveform?  If it makes

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
:31 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   Howard, After monitoring 14.101 continuously for two days, I find the following: 1. CW signals (of narrow width, of course) during this past weekend contest often disrupted decoding, and it looks like it was not desensitization due to AGC capture

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
KH6TY wrote: 2. Pactor signals of 500 Hz width, outside the ROS signal, that capture the AGC, do desensitize the receiver and cause loss of decoding, as expected. Passband tuning takes care of that problem however. As with many other digital modes, I've been using it with AGC switched

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
. *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 18:31 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? Howard, After monitoring 14.101 continuously for two days, I find the following: 1. CW

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
That is good, Dave, except for receivers that distort heavily when the AGC is disabled. If you just use manual gain control, and reduce the gain for strong signals, the effect is the same, only manual. You will lose the weak station because you have reduced the gain and the sensitivity. The

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Please, give a frequency alternative to 14.101 De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 22:39 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   That is good, Dave, except for receivers that distort heavily when

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
Glenn L. Roeser wrote: I would have to agree with Andy's observation that the 1 baud mode is as good as using JT65a With the advantage of being able to send more text in one transmission. It is a very slow throughput though. Very 73, Glenn (WB2LMV) You have to be the patient sort, maybe a

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
*De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 22:39 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? That is good, Dave, except for receivers that distort heavily when the AGC is disabled. If you just use manual gain control

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:23 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   The hflink published ALE frequencies might be a good alternative for others around the world, since ALE users should not notice the FHSS ROS activity (according to the ROS documentation

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
to narrow band modes. The problem is if you join two wide modes at the same frequency. *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:23 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
KH6TY wrote: Jose, I will be using 432.090 MHz because that is definitely legal for US hams. I will be testing the effect of severe Doppler-induced fading and flutter. We badly need a mode for 432 MHz that has good sensitivity and can survive fast Doppler shifts, and I hope a FHSS mode

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage- mode ranking

2010-02-22 Thread Andy obrien
It seems unfair, especially because of all the hard work put in to developing it, but I do not see it as any better than many other modes... nothing that says gee...this is way better . It is GOOD, and a mode to add to our bag of tricks, but not a killer app. The software interface is very

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage- mode ranking

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: It seems unfair, especially because of all the hard work put in to developing it, but I do not see it as any better than many other modes... nothing that says gee...this is way better . It is GOOD, and a mode to add to our bag of tricks, but not a killer app. The software

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
interference to narrow band modes. The problem is if you join two wide modes at the same frequency. De: KH6TY kh...@comcast. net Para: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:23 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   The hflink

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
would the best option? *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:46 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? I agree with Andy - try 14.109 USB next. ALE

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Ugo
in the transceiver. You must pass all bandwith in your receiver because filter are doing by the PC better than you transceiver. De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 18:31 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? Howard, After monitoring 14.101