[digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-05-01 Thread graham787
Of course, I have a different perspective coming from the UK where amateur radio isn't regarded as primarily an emergency communications service. :) Julian, G4ILO Just wait till the military run short of radio operators .. for :) read :( .. that was why morse was part of the

[digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-21 Thread g4ilo
I agree with you. I don't see any merit in doing on the amateur bands what can be done on commercial frequencies. Indeed, I don't really see that even D-Star enhances the hobby in any way. Being able to call someone whereever they are by keying their call into your radio is not what ham radio

RE: [digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-21 Thread Simon HB9DRV
D-Star repeaters provide much better coverage due to the codec (I base this on one test made which was most impressive). As for technology - this is part of the Education benefits in Amateur Radio, my interest in radio resulted in a degree in electronics mathematics. I listen almost all day while

Re: [digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-21 Thread J. Moen
that. I don't get the same thrill using my cellphone or internet email. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: Simon HB9DRV To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:54 AM Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio D-Star repeaters

[digitalradio] Re : 3rd generation digital radio

2010-04-21 Thread raf3151019
I believe a substantial number of American radio amateurs regard using radio tranceivers and their associated pieces of equipment in an entirely different way to their counterparts in Europe. The two continents are entirely different and consequently the people who live in the two continents

Re: [digitalradio] Re : 3rd generation digital radio

2010-04-21 Thread J. Moen
much to do, so much to learn, so little time Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: raf3151019 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:34 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re : 3rd generation digital radio I believe a substantial number of American

[digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-20 Thread DaveNF2G
I think you missed a generation or two. First generation - CW (binary states plus time) Second generation - RTTY and FAX Third generation - AX.25 packet Fourth generation - what the OP called the first generation etc... 73 de Dave, NF2G

[digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-20 Thread af6it
A perhaps narrow outsider's opinion: There is potential here for both good and for wreaking havoc with fellow users of VHF/UHF amateur bands given a paradigm shift into a G3 digital era. Improving upon packet's abilities could be a very good thing- particularly for those involved in EmComm. But

[digitalradio] Re: 3rd Generation Digital radio

2010-04-20 Thread Greg
That was why someone suggested that 220 be looked at rather than 440. Both 2m and 440 have heavy usage with analog repeaters plus SSB/CW (and satellite). Thus 220, or 900 Mhz, would be far better for a third generation digital (trunked) network. After all it is going to mean a new radio