Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread W2XJ
Just keep the FCC out of this. They do will not deal with such issues. If pushed, the out come will not be pretty. This was discussed at Dayton a few years out. Basically we either self police or risk extinction. On 7/12/10 5:00 PM, Rein A rein...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Dear

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread W2XJ
The FCC never said anything that was a commitment. A staff member wrote a very non committal letter basically hoping you would go away. This FCC stuff is silly. On 7/12/10 5:33 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: Unless there is spread spectrum in ROS you cannot use it. Of

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread bgrly
sorry, my typo. It's in 97.3. (b)(9) - Original Message - From: Lester Veenstra les...@veenstras.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:38:40 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? SS

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-13 Thread rein0zn
-Original Message- From: W2XJ w...@w2xj.net Sent: Jul 12, 2010 6:24 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? The FCC never said anything that was a commitment. A staff member wrote a very non committal letter basically hoping you

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread KH6TY
No, the problem is that the spread spectrum variants are mixed in with the others, all inside the ROS program, so any overall approval of ROS, which undiniably includes the non spread-spectrum modes, would accidentally approve the spread-spectrum modes also. I'm sure that the FCC is not that

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Dave Wright
Sigi, Have to agree with you here. Since Spread Spectrum is not authorized in the US below 220MHz, and since CHIP 64/128 is Spread Spectrum, no one in the US can use MultiPSK since it includes CHIP??? Well, of course, that isn't the case. Logic would have to prevail, but with the negativity

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread rein0zn
...@gmail.com Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:25 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? Sigi, Have to agree with you here. Since Spread Spectrum is not authorized in the US below 220MHz, and since CHIP 64/128 is Spread Spectrum, no one in the US can

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Dave Wright
: Moving ROS forward in the USA? Sigi, Have to agree with you here. Since Spread Spectrum is not authorized in the US below 220MHz, and since CHIP 64/128 is Spread Spectrum, no one in the US can use MultiPSK since it includes CHIP??? Well, of course, that isn't the case. Logic would

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread rein0zn
: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? No, the problem is that the spread spectrum variants are mixed in with the others, all inside the ROS program, so any overall approval of ROS, which undiniably includes the non spread-spectrum modes, would accidentally approve the spread-spectrum

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread rein0zn
7:19 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole soft) in us ??? I think if only a part of the soft

Re: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread KH6TY
Unless there is spread spectrum in ROS you cannot use it. Of course, you can use the part that is not spread spectrum, but the FCC is not going to issue a blanket approval for ROS if any part of it is spread spectrum. They are not interested in issuing approvals for programs anyway. They just

AW: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Siegfried Jackstien
I was begging onb my knees that jose will Stopp the autospotting cause that made a lot of trouble I said that we all should stop the adif in a firewall . maybe THAT will bring jose to think But if he has made a decision there is almost no way to change his thoughts I do not know if boycott will

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread graham787
, ROS is illegal to use, so why should we getting involved? 73 Rein W6SZ -Original Message- From: Siegfried Jackstien siegfried.jackstien@ Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:19 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread KH6TY
I was contacted by the person. I did not initiate the contact. I have had dealings with the Wireless Telecommunications Bureau as a result of a petition I amde and I guess I have earned a little measure of respect and trust by some of them. I have been asked not to identify anyone, so please

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread J. Moen
not using it is the right thing for me to do. Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: AA0OI To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? HI: I Just have one question... HOW THE HELL

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread kq6i
Hear, hear rgrds Craig kq6i -Original Message- From: AA0OI [mailto:aa...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:52 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? HI: I Just have one question... HOW THE HELL OLD ARE YOU PEOPLE

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Rein A
rgrds Craig kq6i -Original Message- From: AA0OI [mailto:aa...@...] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:52 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? HI: I Just have one question... HOW THE HELL OLD ARE YOU PEOPLE

[digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Rein A
rgrds Craig kq6i -Original Message- From: AA0OI [mailto:aa...@...] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:52 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? HI: I Just have one question... HOW THE HELL OLD ARE YOU PEOPLE

Re: AW: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Steinar Aanesland
I have been followed this character Ros from the start. Sorry to say , but I'm not surprised at all . This fits in with his odd but fascinating personality. LA5VNA Steinar On 12.07.2010 23:38, Siegfried Jackstien wrote: I was begging onb my knees that jose will Stopp the autospotting cause

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread bgrly
: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? Greg is using ROS. I have logged him. Of course he is living in the North West far away from the government. And Graig, I did not suggest an nice older person to go and ask. That were others who wanted it to die. 73 Rein W6sz --- In digitalradio

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?

2010-07-12 Thread Lester Veenstra
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bg...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:49 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA? SS is defined in 97.1. ..Brent, KE4MZ ___