Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-14 Thread Phil Barnett
On Sunday 13 January 2008 08:15:45 pm John Becker, WØJAB wrote: The anti-automatic  and   anti-everything-that-is-not-PSK31 hams have a very hard time understanding what the rest are doing. Some of us are just ant-Bully In The Neighborhood. You simply refuse to recognize that some modes are a

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hello Bonnie, Thanks for the reply. It just seemed pretty convoluted; and, at best, nebulous. To be honest I have never heard anyone complain about soundings, but I may miss a lot. Compared to some best-not-be-mentioned systems, ALE operations have not shown up on my qrm map. 73, Bill N9DSJ

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread kh6ty
Look at it this way - NO transmissions without listening first, either ALE soundings, beacons, or mailboxes of any kind, are permissible on the *shared* HF amateur bands, except in designated beacon areas or the automatic subbands ( where it is presumed by the FCC to occur, since unattended

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Chuck Mayfield
This is getting ridiculous! It takes me nearly 10 seconds to say This is AA5J Is the frequency in use?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Roger J. Buffington
expeditionradio wrote: This is simply childish backlash directed at me personally because I opposed the Digital Stone Age Petition. It really has nothing at all to do with HFLINK or ALE. It will go away. Bonnie KQ6XA Actually, what is childish is the never-ending assertion by Winlink

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Box SisteenHundred
Exactly... they *just* don't get it frown Bill KA8VIT To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:22:37 -0500 Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink Look at it this way - NO transmissions without

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread expeditionradio
Bill N9DSJ wrote: Hello Bonnie, Thanks for the reply. It just seemed pretty convoluted; and, at best, nebulous. To be honest I have never heard anyone complain about soundings, but I may miss a lot. Compared to some best-not-be-mentioned systems, ALE operations have not shown up on my

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 08:14 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: Twice in the last seven days I have had QSOs disrupted by a Pactor Winlink station firing up on top of my QSO. Fortunately, both times I turned the power way up (from about 40 watts to 200 watts) and we were able to work through it. Roger - how do you know

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 08:05 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: This is getting ridiculous! It takes me nearly 10 seconds to say This is AA5J Is the frequency in use? In what mode?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread Roger J. Buffington
John Becker, WØJAB wrote: At 08:14 AM 1/13/2008, you wrote: Twice in the last seven days I have had QSOs disrupted by a Pactor Winlink station firing up on top of my QSO. Fortunately, both times I turned the power way up (from about 40 watts to 200 watts) and we were able to work

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-13 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
Comments in line Your problem, John, is that you are unable to stick to an argument of the issues. Instead, everything becomes personal with you as evidenced by the above ad hominem remarks. Disappointing. Wrong again Roger. I do pactor as well as RTTY and Amtor. I can copy each of them

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Hard to discern what is actually happening; seems like a tempest in a teapot. 73, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andrew O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After Tony Blair has solved the Israel-Palestine issue, he may be needed to address those old fashioned RTTY folks who

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread Patricia (Elaine) Gibbons
(Elaine) Gibbons WA6UBE / AAR9JA http://www.qrz.com/wa6ube _ From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill McLaughlin Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 4:42 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread expeditionradio
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Bill McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hard to discern what is actually happening; seems like a tempest in a teapot. 73, Bill N9DSJ Hi Bill, This is simply childish backlash directed at me personally because I opposed the Digital Stone Age

[digitalradio] Re: Trouble at mill RTTY contesters war with HFlink

2008-01-12 Thread Bill McLaughlin
Or This Was :) --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Patricia \(Elaine\) Gibbons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the way I look at it, Bill ... soapbox A sounding message is simply the station's callsign as the ALE ID, and soundings are only done if the station has an operator