Re: [digitalradio] Signals on 3584 + audio

2008-05-14 Thread kh6ty
Hi Rick, FYI, our tests last night indicate that MFSK16 still copies the best at low S/N, but only when there are no static crashes, but DEX16 or DEX11 have much fewer errors when there are static crashes. The problem with MFSK16, as you found, is the mistuning tolerance. For messaging, when

Re: [digitalradio] Signals on 3584 + audio

2008-05-14 Thread Sholto Fisher
The problem with knowing where to tune any signal can be solved completely by use of RS ID (as in MultiPSK, PocketDigi etc). It amazes me we have had this technology for over a year now and very few people seem to realize the potential of this. Even with s/n ratios down around -15dB MultiPSK

Re: [digitalradio] Signals on 3584 + audio

2008-05-14 Thread Mark Miller
At 08:49 AM 5/14/2008, kh6ty wrote: The problem with MFSK16, as you found, is the mistuning tolerance. For messaging, when there is a fast series of ARQ exchanges, if one station has uncompensated offset between RX and TX (NBEMS must work with untrained and inexperienced operators to be

Re: [digitalradio] Signals on 3584 + audio

2008-05-14 Thread kh6ty
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Signals on 3584 + audio At 08:49 AM 5/14/2008, kh6ty wrote: The problem with MFSK16, as you found, is the mistuning tolerance. For messaging, when there is a fast series of ARQ exchanges, if one

Re: [digitalradio] Signals on 3584 + audio

2008-05-14 Thread Rick
That is interesting that they are going to name a new mode DEX that is similar to, but not the same as DominoEX. I liked using DEX as the acronym for DominoEX. But the creator gets to pick the names. I am very pleased that Murray is helping to develop a mode for NBEMS and I am sure many of us

Re: [digitalradio] Signals on 3584 + audio

2008-05-14 Thread Rick
You know what? I have not used RS ID much as of late and it never even entered my mind to use this last night. But then again, both stations need to use Multipsk for that to work. Are any other programs going to be adding the technology? 73, Rick, KV9U Sholto Fisher wrote: The problem