A Uber ground was developed for dry areas during WW2. In damp areas, the
concrete can do just what happened in the concrete pole test.
Per Wikipedia article:
"A disadvantage of Ufer grounds is that the moisture in the concrete can flash
into steam during a lightning strike or similar high
Just a comment on myth controversy when dealing with Lightning and
grounding topics.
I know guys that are doing all the wrong things with their practices.
They can't be persuaded otherwise.
Yet, the odds have favored them for years. That reinforces their
thinking that they are right and
That isn't even close to being the same condition and only serves to
help perpetuate a stupid myth that refuses to die among the ill
informed. Anyone that doesn't understand that a Ufer ground is
essentially multiple ground rods encased in concrete is indeed ill
informed. And anyone who
Thanks, Jim. The gain setting just has to be set to HIGH. Bias off. I
checked my settings here for the first time in almost seven years.
You got me on that. I was thinking of the CM500 headset. Bah.
73,
matt W6NIA
On 4/17/2017 9:13 PM, Jim McDonald wrote:
I have the HM10 Dual and HC4
The HC4 and HC5 elements are low output dynamic types - no biasneeded.
In fact, it must be off.
Gus Hansen
KB0YH
On 4/17/2017 10:00 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
That depends on the mic itself. The HC4- and HC5-based mics need bias
ON, but don't know about the others (HC6?). Donis correct about the
I have the HM10 Dual and HC4 headsets. They do NOT need the bias. I've used
the HC4 with and without TXEQ; both are fine.
Jim N7US
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On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:00 PM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
That depends on the mic itself. The HC4- and HC5-based mics need
I don’t think its a myth. In the early 1970’s, the power company I worked for
was testing out some hollow reinforced concrete poles. There was considerable
concern by the line workers that the poles might be more dangerous to work on
than wooden poles, in the event of an accident. To check
That depends on the mic itself. The HC4- and HC5-based mics need bias
ON, but don't know about the others (HC6?). Donis correct about the gain
range setting. Both elements are low output, so use HIGH.
z
On 4/17/2017 8:44 PM, Steve Wilson via Elecraft wrote:
OK. And the bias setting?
Maybe this applies.
We have buried electrical service, but I don't think it matters. I have
been told the NEC now calls for four conductor service to include a
ground wire from the transformer.
I depend on a ground tree. I like the perimeter wire Don, w3fpr describes.
Dick, n0ce
On
I may have misread the Heil webpage. Heil responded and told me to read the K3
manual. Ummm...I was. I just thought the Heil page would help clarify things.
It did not, IMHO, and Elecraft couldn't help either. It would help if people,
such as Heil, understood that we aren't all mic experts!
Greetings fellow Elecrafters,
I have reduced the price of this great gear from $2600 to $2400 and I will
throw in a Pelican 1510 case for it. This equipment is like new at least a
9 out of 10. I also have a XV222 which works 100% and I had one of the
fine people on this forum put together for
OK. And the bias setting?
Thanks, Steve
From: Don Wilhelm
To: Steve Wilson ; "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net"
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 & Heil HM-10 Dual
Steve,
Heil is
Steve,
Heil is giving out erroneous information. The low output Heil
microphones require setting the K3 mic gain range to HIGH.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 4/17/2017 11:14 PM, Steve Wilson via Elecraft wrote:
Hi all,
I setup a K3, that my godfather is borrowing, while his Kenwood is off the air.
I
I'd try Front Panel, HIGH, no bias assuming this is a dynamic
microphone. In general, Heil dynamic mic elements have low output levels.
73,
Lyle KK7P
On 4/17/17 8:14 PM, Steve Wilson via Elecraft wrote:
... I deduced that the setting should be Front Panel, Low, No Bias, but am not
100%
If instead of using the relative permittivity of air, 1.00059, for calculations
of open-wire line, you use the effective permittivity including any spacers
used to homebrew the line, this value will increase slightly.
For instance, I am using spacers made of a material called "nylon 6,6 30%
That myth refuses to die. I have 5 concrete tower bases with ground rods
partially encased and never a worry about an exploding base.
Doug
-Original Message-
-NEVER- encase a ground rod in concrete ... especially a tower base.
As a retired 2-way radio tech, I'm aware of two towers
Did you power the k3 off from the power button or by cutting power to the k3?
Original message
From: Steve Wilson via Elecraft
Date: 2017-04-17 11:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Heil HM-10 Dual
Hi all,
Hi all,
I setup a K3, that my godfather is borrowing, while his Kenwood is off the air.
I reviewed the webpage on the Heil Sound website here:
https://heilsound.com/heil-amateur-radio/support/dsp-settings/all-things-elecraft/
Unfortunately, the page refers to the mic with regard to the front
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On 4/17/2017 4:40 PM, Mark via Elecraft wrote:
> Re: I could see no wires going in to the ground.
>
> They really hide them these days. I watched my house
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House grounds and tower grounds are designed for different hazards (and risks,
which are hazards with dollars).
Direct lighting strikes on houses are less common than power line surges. So
house grounds are designed for surges, which can be large. A direct strike on a
stucco house is going to
I'm trying to assist a local with his K3S/P3/SVGA using the P3 terminal. I
don't have the SVGA so trying to piece together the info using the manuals. A
few questions for all you P3 Terminal Digital mode users:
1. The P3 terminal setup looks to be identical for all modes. Mode is
apparently
The KPA500 is connected to the the KAT500 via a 15pin cable (AUX on Amp, AMP
Control on KAT500)
The K3 is connected to the KAT500 via a 15 pin cable as well (ACC on K3, XCVR
on KAT500)
I have a switch on the Input to the KPA500 that selects either the K2 or the K3
Do I connect the Key Out
Clearly, you have something in mind different from me.
https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=12952
Tell me how you avoid the exploding concrete myth using something like this?
Or with a bolted base plate:
Good article with excellent grounding theory included. Personally, I remove
my equipment from the antenna system remotely during bad weather and generally
when not operating, via a remote antenna switch, which I forgot to mention.
When storms are eminent, I disconnect remotely and allow the
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Good information on grounding and lightning protection for the Amateur
Radio Station can be found in the writings of Ron Block NR2B. He
published a series in QST for June, July and August of 2002.
Those articles can be downloaded from his website at
That would make it tough to get a self-supported tower permitted in Los Angeles
County and probably a lot of other jurisdictions. It wouldn't get past the
engineering review.
Eric
KE6US
On 4/17/2017 3:16 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
Isn't the tower base pretty much a ground rod?
On 4/17/2017 2:16
No, unless adequate steps are taken to assure a large ground grid is made.
This requires more than just a slab.
73,
Bill
K9YEQ
-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes
Stewart
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 5:17 PM
To:
Isn't the tower base pretty much a ground rod?
On 4/17/2017 2:16 PM, Rose wrote:
-NEVER- encase a ground rod in concrete ... especially a tower base.
As a retired 2-way radio tech, I'm aware of two towers that had to be
re-installed because of lightening strikes exploding their concrete bases.
You probably have a "UFER" ground, named for Herbert Ufer who came up
with the idea of encasing the ground electrode in concrete to protect
ordnance storage compartments during WW2, often in the southwestern US
with very poor soil conductivity. In the latter 60's, the NEC permitted
it unless
Re: I could see no wires going in to the ground.
They really hide them these days. I watched my house being built and noticed
that just below the service box, they passed the ground wire from the inside of
the wall to the outside, and then down to the ground rod. Since the wall was
then
Adde,
If you get any message at all on the computer, then the computer knows
that "some" device is connected.
If that is the case, you may need to load the driver manually - download
from the Elecraft website.
It is an FTDI USB to serial converter, and Windows 10 normally loads the
driver
Knut,
When I built my house in 2001, only one ground rod at the utility entry
point was required. We built a house next door in 2009, and two ground
rods separated by 6 feet was required. So sometime between those two
dates the NEC requirements changed.
None-the-less, I have a perimeter
-NEVER- encase a ground rod in concrete ... especially a tower base.
As a retired 2-way radio tech, I'm aware of two towers that had to be
re-installed because of lightening strikes exploding their concrete bases.
73!
Ken - K0PP
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Matt Zilmer
Or you are the ground! :-) Open your panel cover, if you are comfortable, and
look for copper to grounding bar installation. I had my electrician bind an
around the foundation wire to my box and then to the rebar. At the time I
built there was no inspector, 2004. Can you believe it? Lots
Most house grounds are just a piece of re-bar hammered into the soil,
andthis is done before the foundation is poured around it. Ours is
barely visible except for the big chair clamp that secures the bare #8
wire to it. I've seen it other ways too, for example in the upper
midwest. The ground
I'm guessing you and your neighbors have grounding via a basement slab Ufer.
73
jim ab3cv
On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 5:00 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is totally off topic; I apologize.
>
> I just received the new ARRL publication "grounding and bonding for the
> radio
Hi,
This is totally off topic; I apologize.
I just received the new ARRL publication "grounding and bonding for the
radio amateur". It is very interesting reading. I see that the NEC requires
two ground rods for regular power installations; never mind any antennas. I
swear that when when I
Hi all!
I recently installed the KIO3B (the USB module) upgrade in my K3.
The K3 recognize the KIO3B board and I am able to choose "USb" under the
CONFIG->RS232 menu settings.
However, when connecting the K3 to my computer, the computer does not "see"
the radio. Nothing happens more than the
> I set the LINE IN gain to 30 (midrange).
This is generally too high - I run between 10 and 15.
The speaker output is set to 90%,
Are you running the "bare" speaker output to the Line In or
do you have a 10:1 (20 dB) attenuator between the speaker
output and the Line Input?
but there is
25.4:1 SWR is what the KX3 reads for a short or an open, if I remember
correctly.
Agreed, open it up, make sure everything is tight, include the ribbon cable.
wunder
K6WRU
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CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> On Apr 17, 2017, at 11:20 AM, Don Wilhelm
I had a similar problem at Winter Field Day. Between the dummy load and
the rig on a 3' patch cord, SWR wouldn't settle to 1.0:1. Cracked the
hatch, looked around. Touched nothing inside. Put the KX3 back together,
presto, SWR started behaving itself again. The ATU now matches to expected
Nate,
Since the problem is intermittent, I would not suspect a problem with an
active component.
You might want to remove the bottom cover and check to be certain the
hardware on the BNC jack is tight and the LPF on the BNC connector is
properly positioned. You may have to lift the KXAT3
I am working on this some more this morning.
I set the LINE IN gain to 30 (midrange). The speaker output is set to 90%, but
there is an amplitude slider in WSJT-X, and I adjusted that to 5 bars of ALC in
WSJT Tune mode (constant 1100 Hz tone in this case). The K3 is definitely in
DATA A
Ok thanks!Any Idea if this will be implemented in the future?I was convinced
that this will be the same as with PX3 where this is implementedTechnically, no
issue, right?
73, Adrian, DH1AHL
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I used to work Field Day with a friend in the two transmitter class. At our
first Field Day, we had the usual problems as described by the original poster.
Especially so because we were both running 500 watts.
On our second and all subsequent operations we operated with one station on a
Thank you, Fred. Having one of the CNC knobs on my K3, I had forgotten
about that. I did not realise it was causing such an issue.
73 de David G4DMP
In a recent message, Fred C. Jensen writes
>My K3 has one, it's around the Big Knob.
>Fred K6DGW
>Sparks NV DM09dn
>David
My K3 has one, it's around the Big Knob.
Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
David Pratt wrote:
>Excuse my ignorance, Tim; maybe I am being naive, but could you explain
>to which Elecraft products you are referring? I do not know of any 'O'
>rings in any of my Elecraft transceivers.
Excuse my ignorance, Tim; maybe I am being naive, but could you explain
to which Elecraft products you are referring? I do not know of any 'O'
rings in any of my Elecraft transceivers.
73 de David G4DMP
In a recent message, "k...@juno.com" writes
>
>A long time admirer. For me,
A long time admirer. For me, his "O ring and a glass of ice water"
demonstrationwhich kicked the air out of the NASA gas bags during theChallenger
Disaster inquiry was most memorable. A remarkable man. 72, Tim Colbert K3HX
3 Things
Jack, W6FB, made a good point about resonant antennas. Going with this
idea, separate resonant antennas should be used for each band, and mobile
antennas, being high-Q may be particularly desirable. However, minus separate
bandpass filters (to augment interference rejection), physical
Ken G Kopp wrote
> Trivia: It's not unusual for a grain train to be much longer that the
> tunnel through the Continental Divide.
Reminiscing back to my third semester of Physics in college (Relativity), it
depends on the speed of the train :-)
Barry W2UP
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Very nice Elecraft K3 for sale. SN #758
Included options are
KPA 100, 100 watt module
KT3A Internal antenna tuner w/2nd SO239 input
KIO3, digital interface
KRX3 second receiver module
KXV3 Receive antenna interface option
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K3FLA 250 hz CW filters 8 pole matching (2)
The Berkeley Physic Series is wonderful. But, on a sad note, while I was at
Fermi, I worked with Kambiu Luk, a researcher from Berkeley, I asked about that
series, he said that it proved to be too difficult. Sigh!
Jim - K7BIE
> On Apr 16, 2017, at 10:04 PM, Phil Hystad
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