Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-14 Thread Cal Frye
I hadn't wanted to discuss policy on a technical list, as I feel we're veering somewhat off topic. We treat P2P at Oberlin much like our other default-deny policies: Ask for an exemption and ye shall receive. As you say, we treat them like adults and don't quiz them about their reasons, but we do

Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-14 Thread Dan Newcombe
I've been staying out of it because I can't stand the 50 NDR and vacation messages that come with posting :) We use our Packetshaper to control P2P traffic, that is P2P for the whole campus is limited to 1kbps of bandwidth. If they can get through enough to cause a DMCA violation, we're

RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-14 Thread Patrick Printz
, 2012 9:59 AM To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List Subject: Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P I hadn't wanted to discuss policy on a technical list, as I feel we're veering somewhat off topic. We treat P2P at Oberlin much like our other default-deny policies: Ask for an exemption and ye

[enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Patrick Printz
How do you block bittorrent and P2P traffic? Is it something that can be done via policy or ACL's? I know I could do it with a packet shaper, but we do not have one yet. I am just curious is someone else has thought of some ingenious way of keeping this traffic contained. Patrick Printz

RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Robert O Kwiatkowski
Fax: 518-629-7548 From: Patrick Printz [mailto:ppri...@qcc.mass.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 6:43 AM To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List Subject: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P How do you block bittorrent and P2P traffic? Is it something that can be done via policy

Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Jason . Rearick
Do you own Netsights Policy Manager, and or Oneview? Because with just Policy Manager, you can build the service and rule to block it, and if you have Oneview and run netflow, you can right click on the flow and make the rule quickly. Thanks, Jason Rearick Network Engineer Home Office: Info

RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Patrick Printz
Customer Mailing List Subject: Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P Do you own Netsights Policy Manager, and or Oneview? Because with just Policy Manager, you can build the service and rule to block it, and if you have Oneview and run netflow, you can right click on the flow and make the rule

RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Patrick Printz
sweeper who did his job well. ~Martin Luther King, Jr. -Original Message- From: Summers, William [mailto:wsumm...@deerfield.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:16 AM To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List Subject: RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P Many L7/deep inspection

RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread djohnson
Mailing List enterasys@listserv.unc.edu, Date: 09/13/2012 08:19 AM Subject:RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P Many L7/deep inspection products claim they can block Bittorrent and P2P apps. In my experience/testing most have weaknesses. Enterasys has a new formed relationship

RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Shuttlesworth, James
: Patrick Printz [mailto:ppri...@qcc.mass.edu] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 9:26 AM To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List Subject: RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P We are lacking the NAC currently. Every time we look into it, we decided against it. We may have to consider getting one

Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Robert Kwiatkowski
...@uticanational.com] *Sent:* Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:06 AM *To:* Enterasys Customer Mailing List *Subject:* RE: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P ** ** Like Rob also mentioned, your best bet though would be NAC, that way via the assessment scan, you can make it mandatory for the NAC

Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Cal Frye
Even with some packet shapers it can be difficult to get it all. Some clients are very adaptive, and if you block too many ports you'll find your P2P traffic running on port 80, or 53 instead! Is the problem with student-owned machines on your network or on your own machines? If the latter,

Re: [enterasys] Blocking bittorrent and P2P

2012-09-13 Thread Lucas Hazel
We're also using Procera to block bit torrent. You can actually get around blocking legitimate torrents such as Blizzard updates by using property inspection and controlling the agent string and which trackers can be contacted. Sure it fundamentally breaks how torrents are meant to work, but