[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-17 Thread Troy Dawson
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 12:33 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > > I've done some poking, and this is what I've come up with for *new* > missing -devel packages in CS9 with their approximate number of users in > rawhide: > > 389-ds-base-devel 2 > accel-config-devel 0 > anthy-unicode-devel 3 >

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-17 Thread Paul Howarth
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 07:02:23 -0500 Josh Boyer wrote: > 2) Moving content to CRB in RHEL is not a silver bullet solution in > many scenarios. If it's strictly for build dependencies, CRB works > well. If an EPEL package has a runtime requires on CRB content, that > is less desirable. RHEL

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 07:23, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 16. 01. 22 12:49, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > >> On 15. 01. 22 20:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: > >>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >>> > python-pytest-cov is something I've

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-16 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 16. 01. 22 12:49, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 15. 01. 22 20:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: python-pytest-cov is something I've lobbied has no business in an enterprise distro at all.  ...    ... As

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-16 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 15. 01. 22 20:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: python-pytest-cov is something I've lobbied has no business in an enterprise distro at all. ...    ... As for EPEL I strongly suggest not to introduce

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 01. 22 18:41, Orion Poplawski wrote: I was also confused about two things here: - It's retired on the "main" branch, but the c9s branch seems intact. Indeed, that is how this was done for many (all?) retired c9s packages. I believe this is confusing. - What does "retired for

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 01. 22 21:42, Orion Poplawski wrote: On 1/15/22 12:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: python-pytest-cov is something I've lobbied has no business in an enterprise distro at all.  ...    ... As for EPEL I strongly suggest not to introduce

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 01. 22 20:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: python-pytest-cov is something I've lobbied has no business in an enterprise distro at all. ...    ... As for EPEL I strongly suggest not to introduce python-pytest-cov either. If your package

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 1:29 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > > On 1/14/22 05:02, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:31 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > >> > >> On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: > >>> While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from > >>> RHEL9

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/15/22 12:22, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: python-pytest-cov is something I've lobbied has no business in an enterprise distro at all. ...    ... As for EPEL I strongly suggest not to introduce python-pytest-cov either. If your package

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/14/22 10:33, Troy Dawson wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 8:13 AM Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 10:57, Stephen John Smoogen mailto:smo...@gmail.com>> wrote: I mirrored the source rpms down and did the following for 8 and

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 6:29 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > I don't buy any of these arguments, and it doesn't really address the > situation of "missing -devel" packages. The missing devel packages for shipped libraries are a clear pain point for those that just want build something for their EL

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Sat, 15 Jan 2022, Miro Hrončok wrote: python-pytest-cov is something I've lobbied has no business in an enterprise distro at all. ... ... As for EPEL I strongly suggest not to introduce python-pytest-cov either. If your package depends on it, please drop the dependency

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/14/22 05:02, Josh Boyer wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:31 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8. The latest I found was cppunit, which appears to be

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/14/22 19:45, epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: On 1/14/22 03:29, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8.  The latest I found was cppunit, which appears to be

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 01. 22 11:19, Miro Hrončok wrote: As for EPEL I strongly suggest not to introduce python-pytest-cov either. If your package depends on it, please drop the dependency instead, see https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Python/#_linters And this goes without saying: If

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-15 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 15. 01. 22 3:45, Orion Poplawski wrote: Others: python-pytest-cov ->   python-pyttest-xdist ->     python-execnet ->   python-gevent ->     python-zope-interface ->   python-zope-testing   python-apipkg

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/14/22 05:36, Neal Gompa wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:27 AM Leon Fauster via epel-devel wrote: Am 14.01.22 um 13:02 schrieb Josh Boyer: A fairly accurate list of packages removed in RHEL 9 can be found in our RHEL 9 Adoption documentation:

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/14/22 03:29, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8.  The latest I found was cppunit, which appears to be completely missing from the CS9 repos despite having been

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 1/14/22 03:29, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8.  The latest I found was cppunit, which appears to be completely missing from the CS9 repos despite having been

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Troy Dawson
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 8:13 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 10:57, Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > >> >> >> I mirrored the source rpms down and did the following for 8 and 9-stream. >> ``` >> $ for i in AppStream BaseOS PowerTools; do echo $i; find ./$i -type f >>

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 10:57, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > I mirrored the source rpms down and did the following for 8 and 9-stream. > ``` > $ for i in AppStream BaseOS PowerTools; do echo $i; find ./$i -type f > -name "*src.rpm" | xargs rpm --nosignature --qf='%{NAME}\n' -qp > > /tmp/a-$i;

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 14 Jan 2022 at 10:22, Troy Dawson wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:12 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > >> While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing >> from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8. The latest I found was cppunit, which >> appears to be completely missing

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Troy Dawson
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 8:12 PM Orion Poplawski wrote: > While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing > from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8. The latest I found was cppunit, which > appears to be completely missing from the CS9 repos despite having been > built (See >

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:27 AM Leon Fauster via epel-devel wrote: > > Am 14.01.22 um 13:02 schrieb Josh Boyer: > > A fairly accurate list of packages removed in RHEL 9 can be found in > > our RHEL 9 Adoption documentation: > > > >

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Leon Fauster via epel-devel
Am 14.01.22 um 13:02 schrieb Josh Boyer: A fairly accurate list of packages removed in RHEL 9 can be found in our RHEL 9 Adoption documentation:

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:31 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from > > RHEL9 > > than were in RHEL8. The latest I found was cppunit, which appears to be > > completely missing from the

[EPEL-devel] Re: The incredibly shrinking RHEL

2022-01-14 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 14. 01. 22 5:11, Orion Poplawski wrote: While working on EPEL9, it seems that even more packages are missing from RHEL9 than were in RHEL8.  The latest I found was cppunit, which appears to be completely missing from the CS9 repos despite having been built (See