Re: [EVDL] Charging a dead Nissan Leaf

2021-03-22 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Seth, Sorry, but you did not have a dead traction battery, however the traction battery was discharged so far that the car turns off all HV, including the DC-DC converter that charges the 12V aux battery, so that battery died after discharging itself (has happened to me when I deliberately wanted

Re: [EVDL] Charging a dead Nissan Leaf

2021-03-22 Thread Seth Rothenberg via EV
The traction battery was run down Curiously, it bypassed turtle mode and went straight to shut down. In the 5 years, I did arrive home as a turtle once. For my Nissan Leaf, this is the video that helped me to open the charge port without any 12 Volts available:

Re: [EVDL] Charging a dead Nissan Leaf

2021-03-22 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
Your neighbor may not have driven any other electric car. Yes the Kona has good reviews but if you can afford a Tesla it is the best for long distance driving. If you can hold out charging times will get quicker. Unless you really need to upgrade carefully think things through. There have now

Re: [EVDL] Charging a dead Nissan Leaf

2021-03-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote: > - How did you open the charge port door manually? > - Was the 12v battery dead? Or the traction pack? Or both? > - How did you "reboot" the system? > - Once it finally charged back up, have you observed any capacity     loss, or other consequences? Shush,

[EVDL] What is going on with this Tesla?

2021-03-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Here's a video clip of a Tesla driver trying out a version of Tesla's advanced autopilot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uClWlVCwHsI He makes 9 attempts at a left turn with oncoming traffic. If my count is correct, 4 tries are successful. In the other 5 he has to intervene to prevent a

Re: [EVDL] Mitsubishi air source heat pumps

2021-03-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
John Lussmyer via EV wrote: Just depends on the system involved. 0F is WAY above absolute 0. It's quite possible to make a heatpump that works with a large temperature difference. It's not going to get a 20x factor like most, but I'm quite sure that you can make one that is > 1. Bingo! :-) I

Re: [EVDL] Charging a dead Nissan Leaf

2021-03-22 Thread Mr. Sharkey via EV
> - How did you open the charge port door manually? > - Was the 12v battery dead? Or the traction pack? Or both? > - How did you "reboot" the system? > - Once it finally charged back up, have you observed any capacity loss, or other consequences? Shush, Lee, the useful information he's

Re: [EVDL] Charging a dead Nissan Leaf

2021-03-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote: The car was so dead, it couldn't open the charge port door. I opened the charge port manually, charged the 12V battery. Then I realized, the Leaf needed a reboot. Once it booted up, it was willing to take a Trickle charge, and once I built another L6-30 extension

Re: [EVDL] Mitsubishi air source heat pumps

2021-03-22 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Mon Mar 22 16:57:39 PDT 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >They can't, I don't care what they say. The laws of physics still apply. >The "heat" that is being discharged might be 60F which is hot compared >to 0F. They would have to circulate thousands of cubic yards of 0F air >to obtain even a tiny

Re: [EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
It seems that many consumer items, no matter the cost, may now be doing that, and include a “getting started” manual, with the rest on internet. Some companies do it to say money, others are doing it based on consumer demand to eliminate paper. They certainly are easier to correct and for

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread paul dove via EV
They do Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, March 22, 2021, 4:55 PM, Steves via EV wrote: You’d think they would have the manual stored in memory in the car, with updates online. -Steve > On Mar 22, 2021, at 5:44 PM, Willie via EV wrote: > >  > >> On 3/22/21 4:28 PM, Mark

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 03/22/2021 15:31, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Like Mark, I prefer to have a real manual that I can read anywhere, any time. But I also know the modern way is for products to have *no* manual; you are expected to look everything up online. One advantage to a pdf manual.  When I am working on my

Re: [EVDL] Mitsubishi air source heat pumps

2021-03-22 Thread Bill Woodcock via EV
> On Mar 22, 2021, at 7:17 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > > On 22 Mar 2021 at 11:33, Willie via EV wrote: > >> How can they efficiently extract heat from such cold air? I'm eager >> to learn details and see evaluations. > > They can indeed extract heat, but I'm not so sure

[EVDL] Charging a dead Nissan Leaf

2021-03-22 Thread Seth Rothenberg via EV
f the Kona Electric recall. My neighbor said it's the best car he ever owned. Maybe some of this information will be helpful to someone one day. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/2021

Re: [EVDL] Mitsubishi air source heat pumps

2021-03-22 Thread Alan Arrison via EV
They can't, I don't care what they say. The laws of physics still apply. The "heat" that is being discharged might be 60F which is hot compared to 0F. They would have to circulate thousands of cubic yards of 0F air to obtain even a tiny amount of "heat". Someone asked for link:

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
For most operational aspects of the car (Y) I hope that it's easy to discover or figure out without a manual. One shouldn't really need a manual to figure out how to use the radio, turn signal, adjust the mirrors, etc. If it isn't reasonably obvious, there's a fundamental problem with the

[EVDL] Tesla question for Phil

2021-03-22 Thread Willie via EV
Perhaps Phil would be willing to comment on the possibility of a rapid and surprise introduction of V2G/V2H on Tesla cars? That is, is there any reason the charge port should not be bidirectional? Is it possible that a grid/island inverter is built in so that AC power could be supplied

[EVDL] media bias

2021-03-22 Thread Willie via EV
As I watch news coverage on rising gasoline prices and how terrible that is, I see zero mention that the EV revolution is well underway. And how many people in the country just have no interest in gasoline prices. ___ Address messages to

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi folks You would think I bought a $500 car not $55k with no operating manual in the glove box just online. A guy on EBay prints them out and binds for the glove box. I just put “Operating manual for Tesla Y” in the search. Now I’ll have a reference when I question

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/22/21 4:56 PM, (-Phil-) wrote: The electronic manual is stored in the car and does not need connectivity.  You can also download the searchable PDF from Tesla's web site. Thanks, I did not realize that it is in the car memory. Since it seems to always be up to date, I imagine

Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Steves via EV
You’d think they would have the manual stored in memory in the car, with updates online. -Steve > On Mar 22, 2021, at 5:44 PM, Willie via EV wrote: > >  > >> On 3/22/21 4:28 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: >> Hi folks >> You would think I bought a $500 car not $55k with no operating manual in

Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/22/21 4:28 PM, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: Hi folks You would think I bought a $500 car not $55k with no operating manual in the glove box just online. A guy on EBay prints them out and binds for the glove box. I just put “Operating manual for Tesla Y” in the search. Now I’ll have a

[EVDL] Tesla Y Operating manual on EBay

2021-03-22 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi folks You would think I bought a $500 car not $55k with no operating manual in the glove box just online. A guy on EBay prints them out and binds for the glove box. I just put “Operating manual for Tesla Y” in the search. Now I’ll have a reference when I question something instead of asking

Re: [EVDL] Projects -- basement ground-source

2021-03-22 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] beware of flying objects, was Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations

2021-03-22 Thread fred via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Mar 2021 at 10:33, Steves via EV wrote: > Remember that the Bolt also doesnTMt have a spare. Remember too that EVs > donTMt always use readily available tires, so if you get a flat, you could be > stuck for a few days waiting on tire delivery. By way of comparison, Renault Zoe comes with a

Re: [EVDL] Mitsubishi air source heat pumps

2021-03-22 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Mar 2021 at 11:33, Willie via EV wrote: > How can they efficiently extract heat from such cold air? I'm eager > to learn details and see evaluations. They can indeed extract heat, but I'm not so sure "efficiently" necessarily applies. I have a Mitsubishi Mister Slim M series

Re: [EVDL] Spare Tire for Tesla model Y

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Spare Tire for Tesla model Y

2021-03-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Perfect. And expensive. It is something I think I would need. I don't think a flat is likely out on forest service roads. But damaging the rim could happen and having a spare could save a 5 or 10 hour hike out to reach cell service and call a tow truck. Not something I want to ever

[EVDL] Spare Tire for Tesla model Y

2021-03-22 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi Phil etc. I ordered this just to be safe. I’ve had my share of flats out in the middle of nowhere , far far away from anything and a spare was a life saver. They have others for the model 3 https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Compact-Spare-Tire-Carrying/dp/B08FCXGVW8 Best regards Mark Sent

Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread Steves via EV
I don’t think it’s necessarily a question of AAA getting to you, but what can they do if you have no spare and no local tire places have that tire in stock? You’d have to be towed somewhere and wait for a tire to be shipped. And of course this will happen on a Saturday evening. I like the idea

Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Mon Mar 22 10:51:56 PDT 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Sounds good. I?ll check it out. I usually carry a mini spare though, bought on >Amazon for the Bolt and the Leaf. I?ve had my share of flats where I had to >have a spare. Hmm, you must drivce further off road that I do. I've never had a

Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread Glenn Brooks via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Mon Mar 22 09:53:02 PDT 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >Regarding the air compressor link, What does it mean in the ad, where it says >?engine must be running during use?? > >That is a very odd requirement for an air compressor. Look at the current draw on that one. 15A For many small cars,

Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread Glenn Brooks via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tire Foam

2021-03-22 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/22/21 11:27 AM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: They are not "filled with foam", they have a foam belt up against the inside of the tread that's designed to make the tire quieter. This is common on EV tires because tire noise is one of the largest sources of noise at highway speeds, however

Re: [EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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[EVDL] Mitsubishi air source heat pumps

2021-03-22 Thread Willie via EV
Someone asked for link: https://www.mitsubishicomfort.com/benefits/hyper-heating There has to be a catch. How can they efficiently extract heat from such cold air? I'm eager to learn details and see evaluations. ___ Address messages to

Re: [EVDL] Tire Foam (was: Tesla Y)

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread paul dove via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
Forgot to mention, the leak was caused by a roofing nail in the tread area. I pulled the nail out before reinflating. My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key March 22, 2021 8:04 AM, "Peter VanDerWal via EV" wrote: > The Chevrolet Bolt comes with self sealing tires that work

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
The Chevrolet Bolt comes with self sealing tires that work really well. I went to drive my Bolt a few months back and it had a flat tire. I inflated it and waited 1/2 hour to see how quickly it deflated, and it didn't. In fact several months later it still holds air as well as the other

Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread Steves via EV
Remember that the Bolt also doesn’t have a spare. Remember too that EVs don’t always use readily available tires, so if you get a flat, you could be stuck for a few days waiting on tire delivery. Yes, they (Chevy anyway) give you an inflator and something like fix-a-flat but it’s useless on

[EVDL] Spare tire kit for Tesla Y recommendations?

2021-03-22 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi folks Can someone recommend a Mini spare tire Kit for the Tesla Y? I need a complete kit with jack and lug wrench. There’s Round a spot in Rear trunk but it’s empty. Best regards Mark. Sent from my iPhone ___ Address messages to

[EVDL] Fwd: Tesla Y

2021-03-22 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi Folks Ben My son and I rode up to Tyson’s Corner off the dc beltway 225 miles in the Bolt EV, stopped at a fast charger Woodstock va for insurance at Walmart Subway for lunch. The Bolt is 260 miles if not using the heater, about 225 if using. The Tesla Y at 316 miles made it the 225

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-22 Thread Bill Woodcock via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Earth-Return

2021-03-22 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects -- basement ground-source

2021-03-22 Thread Haudy Kazemi via EV
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