Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2019-03-12 Thread Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
2019-03-12 16:56 GMT+01:00, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support] > > FILTER has been implemented in Firebird 4. See "FILTER Clause for > Aggregate Functions" in the Firebird 4 beta 1 release notes, or > http://tracker.firebirdsql.org/browse/CORE-5768 Great! > Note though that

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2019-03-12 Thread Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support]
On 2019-03-12 13:13, Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support] wrote: > I forgot about very useful feature lile FILTER on window functions > select some_col, count(other_col) over() FILTER ( where other_col > > soime_val) Maybe in FB 4.0 it might be implemented FILTER has been

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2019-03-12 Thread Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
I forgot about very useful feature lile FILTER on window functions select some_col, count(other_col) over() FILTER ( where other_col > soime_val) Maybe in FB 4.0 it might be implemented 2018-11-10 9:47 GMT+01:00, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support] : > On 9-11-2018 22:51,

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-10 Thread Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support]
On 9-11-2018 22:51, Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support] wrote: > First thought: > > range/rows between unbounded preceding and unbounded following / > current row, etc.. Will be added in Firebird 4 (already present in the Firebird 4 Alpha 1). > own aggregate functions in

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-09 Thread Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
2018-11-07 19:06 GMT+01:00, Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support] : > On 2018-11-07 16:28, Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com > [firebird-support] wrote: >> Firebird also doesn't support data partitioning, extended window >> functions > > What are you really missing in

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-09 Thread Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
2018-11-07 16:33 GMT+01:00, Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support] : > 07.11.2018 16:28, Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support] > wrote: >> Firebird also doesn't support data partitioning, extended window >> functions > >On the other hand transactions in

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-08 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]
08.11.2018 0:27, Dalton Calford dalton.calf...@gmail.com [firebird-support] wrote: > > Master-Slave is already in HQbird for 2.5 and 3.0, and will be in > community Firebird 4.0 > > Master-Master is the next step for 5.0. > > Great news! > > >  (6) High Available Clustering > >  agree, it

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-08 Thread Alexey Kovyazin a...@ib-aid.com [firebird-support]
Hello Dalton, I am totally agree with you - all these features would be definitely good. Regards, Alexey Hi Alexey, Just my 2cents from someone who has not had time to review the code and could not find a breakdown of the firebird code structure in a very cursory search. > (1) Schema

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-08 Thread 'Martijn Tonies (Upscene Productions)' m.ton...@upscene.com [firebird-support]
Hello Alexey, >What about compilation of stored procedures - is it true that it is >possible to create SP with errors, and they appear only when it will be >invoked? Yes, some errors are 'allowed', like a mismatch in parameter name in declaration and code. You'll get an error when executing, eg:

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Alexey Kovyazin a...@ib-aid.com [firebird-support]
Hello All, As there are many people involved and truly interested in further Firebird development in this thread, I would like to remind, that Firebird is funded by Firebird Foundation sponsors and members, and there is always ability to boost development with money sponsorship and donations.

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread liviuslivius liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
For me highest priority are grouping sets and pivot.If we are talking about triggers/procedures. For me there is one big disadvantage about string processing.Why we can not use indexed access to string? This should be simplified.E.g. declare variable A char(50)A[4] = 'x'A[7] = A[8]I

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Dalton Calford dalton.calf...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
Hi Alexey, Just my 2cents from someone who has not had time to review the code and could not find a breakdown of the firebird code structure in a very cursory search. > (1) Schema support as per oracle not microsoft (although you can simulate MS style schema with a proper implementation) >

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support]
On 2018-11-06 14:44, Fabiano Bonin fabiano.bo...@personalsoft.com.br [firebird-support] wrote: > There is a 31 characters table name limit, the can bring some > restrictions if you are planning to create a multi-database > application and you use big table names. This limit will be doubled (to

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Alexey Kovyazin a...@ib-aid.com [firebird-support]
Hello Dalton, >Where do you see the list of features that are destined to be in 5? There is no list of features yet. However, as a member of Technical Task Group, I will work to include into 5.0 the 3 main features: multi-master replication, partitioning/table spaces, schema support. >I

RE: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread edmende...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
2.1 From: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 7:45 AM To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Subject: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL Hi, We've been using Firebird "forever". For upcoming projects and also possible replacement in existi

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Dalton Calford dalton.calf...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
Hi Alexey, Where do you see the list of features that are destined to be in 5? I have been a supporter of firebird for years but there are several things that hold it back (1) Schema support as per oracle not microsoft (although you can simulate MS style schema with a proper implementation) (2)

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Mark Rotteveel m...@lawinegevaar.nl [firebird-support]
On 2018-11-07 16:28, Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support] wrote: > Firebird also doesn't support data partitioning, extended window > functions What are you really missing in existing window functions support? Mark

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread 'Marcin Bury' marcin.b...@studio-delfi.pl [firebird-support]
quot; Do: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Data: 07.11.2018 17:37:00 Temat: Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL >Martijn, > >What about compilation of stored procedures - is it true that it is >possible to create SP with errors, and they appear only when it will be >invoked

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Alexey Kovyazin a...@ib-aid.com [firebird-support]
Thank you! In my opinion, Firebird will close the gap with PG in main features in 2 years, with FB5.0 version. Regards, Alexey Kovyazin IBSurgeon www.ib-aid.com On 07.11.2018 19:58, 'Martijn Tonies (Upscene Productions)' m.ton...@upscene.com [firebird-support] wrote: > Hello Alexey, > >> What

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread 'Martijn Tonies (Upscene Productions)' m.ton...@upscene.com [firebird-support]
Hello Alexey, >What about compilation of stored procedures - is it true that it is >possible to create SP with errors, and they appear only when it will be >invoked? Unsure, will try tomorrow. Do note, that for example, Oracle allows you to 'save' or 'compile' invalid stored routines > they are

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Alexey Kovyazin a...@ib-aid.com [firebird-support]
Martijn, What about compilation of stored procedures - is it true that it is possible to create SP with errors, and they appear only when it will be invoked? Also, about checking the parameters - is it true that you can create stored procedure which invokes other stored procedure with wrong

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread 'Martijn Tonies (Upscene Productions)' m.ton...@upscene.com [firebird-support]
, NexusDB and Firebird. -Original Message- From: Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 5:17 PM To: firebird-support@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL 07.11.2018 17:11, liviuslivius liviusliv

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]
07.11.2018 17:11, liviuslivius liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support] wrote: > Wow is this true? https://www.tutorialspoint.com/postgresql/postgresql_transactions.htm "Transactions can be started using BEGIN TRANSACTION or simply BEGIN command. Such transactions usually persist until

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread liviuslivius liviusliv...@poczta.onet.pl [firebird-support]
Wow is this true? If yes in my opinion going to PG is a mistake.Regards,Karol Bieniaszewski null

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Dimitry Sibiryakov s...@ibphoenix.com [firebird-support]
07.11.2018 16:28, Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support] wrote: > Firebird also doesn't support data partitioning, extended window functions On the other hand transactions in PostgreSQL are strange: they automatically rolled back on any statement error. -- WBR, SD.

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-07 Thread Michal Kurczabinski michk...@gmail.com [firebird-support]
Firebird also doesn't support data partitioning, extended window functions -- Regards, Michal Kurczabinski 2018-11-06 14:44 GMT+01:00, Fabiano Bonin fabiano.bo...@personalsoft.com.br [firebird-support] : > Firebird doesn't support schemas. > This is the main reason I am replacing it by

Re: [firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-06 Thread Fabiano Bonin fabiano.bo...@personalsoft.com.br [firebird-support]
Firebird doesn't support schemas. This is the main reason I am replacing it by PostgreSQL in all my projects. In versions prior to 3.0, there is a limit on SQL instruction size, what makes it hard to use with frameworks like Hibernate, which tends to generate huge SQL instructions. But this is

[firebird-support] Firebird vs. PostgreSQL

2018-11-06 Thread Kjell Rilbe kjell.ri...@marknadsinformation.se [firebird-support]
Hi, We've been using Firebird "forever". For upcoming projects and also possible replacement in existing ones, we're considering PostgreSQL. What would you say is the pros and cons of Firebird vs. PostgreSQL? I'm aware that the answers may very well be different depending on application and