Jeremias Maerki wrote:
[Glen Mazza]
So Luca is correct that both fo:simple-page-masters
should generate the same overall margins of 50 pt.
each, no?
No. :-)
Ok, now I am convinced you are right.
Thanks for all your explanations, I always found this part of the
recommendation quite obscure!
--- Glen Mazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This IMO is the fatal flaw in your logic in your
previous email. You determined fo:s-p-m and fo:r-b
to
be type (1) FO's, and hence used the wrong equations
in 5.3.2 to determine calculated values for them.
They are type (3) FO's, and hence the first
Damn, Glen, thanks for being so insistent. I was indeed wrong. You
didn't really give me the prove I needed to be rewired but you got me
looking again all over the spec and I found what was wrong:
It doesn't really matter if the FOs generate reference areas or not, the
key is that 5.3.2 is
--- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It doesn't really matter if the FOs generate
reference areas or not, the
Well, the Recommendation declares which of the three
types each FO belongs to, in the Areas section in
each FO definition. It is a static answer that holds
for all FO's of a
Hi Luca,
the reason for the effect you're seeing is the inheritance of
start-indent and end-indent. In your exapmle, if you specify a
margin-left and margin-right on the simple-page-master, this results
(corresponding properties) in a start-indent and end-indent of 50pt each.
Now, because
--- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Luca,
the reason for the effect you're seeing is the
inheritance of
start-indent and end-indent. In your exapmle, if you
specify a
margin-left and margin-right on the
simple-page-master, this results
(corresponding properties) in a
On 15.02.2005 17:46:54 Glen Mazza wrote:
--- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Luca,
the reason for the effect you're seeing is the
inheritance of
start-indent and end-indent. In your exapmle, if you
specify a
margin-left and margin-right on the
simple-page-master,
Yes, I was probably not 100% correct in my explanation though my
interpretation still stands.
On 15.02.2005 18:02:14 Glen Mazza wrote:
Oh--5.3.2 says: There are two more properties,
end-indent and start-indent (block-level
formatting objects) which correspond to the various
absolute margin
But if start-indent and margin-left are not
Corresponding Properties, then the inheritance of
50pt. you gave in your example would not occur.
IMO, if start-indent and margin-left were actually
intended to be Corresponding Properties, the former
would have been named margin-start. Also,
In mid January Peter helped me understand what's going on. Please have a
look at his explanation [1]. Maybe that makes it clearer. The margin
properties are never used directly in the layout engine (I think and
hope). I'm always working from *-indent and space-*. I think it's
obvious enough from
Jeremias,
I am wrong here. This phrase in 5.3.2:
If the corresponding absolute margin property is
specified on the formatting object...
Clearly means that margin *is* a CP, and hence is a CP
with start-indent/end-indent as appropriate. Forget
that argument--never mind, and I'm sorry that you
--- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Luca,
the reason for the effect you're seeing is the
inheritance of
start-indent and end-indent. In your exapmle, if you
specify a
margin-left and margin-right on the
simple-page-master,
(margin-left and margin-right of 50pt each on
On second thought, Jeremias, instead of arguing this,
why don't we just compromise at 75pt. margins? ;)
Glen
--- Glen Mazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi Luca,
the reason for the effect you're seeing is the
inheritance of
start-indent
90pt, no less.
On 16.02.2005 05:15:36 Glen Mazza wrote:
On second thought, Jeremias, instead of arguing this,
why don't we just compromise at 75pt. margins? ;)
Jeremias Maerki
I'm afraid that you're wrong here. It's true that s-p-m and region-body
don't directly generate reference areas but they also can't, because
they are only used as a template for each new page. For for each page
they serve as FOs that generate reference areas.
But let me give you another example
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