RE: How to fix broken links/references. FM crashed again.
Thank you Art, Fred, Anne, and the kind person who suggested to follow Anne's tip to rename the old book to fix breaking cross-references. It worked like a charm. Live long Framers, and prosper! Nadine ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How to fix broken links/references. FM crashed again.
Thank you Art, Fred, Anne, and the kind person who suggested to follow Anne's tip to rename the old book to fix breaking cross-references. It worked like a charm. Live long Framers, and prosper! Nadine
RE: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
PhotoShop is more versatile and has a shorter learning curve. Illustrator is good if you are making pin diagrams (semiconductors etc). You can take any screenshot, photo of a product, or a picture and edit it in PhotoShop. Illustrator is a designer. Whatever little I know. Illustrator you can't master over a weekend. Photoshop, you can learn to make basic edits in a day. Nandini -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cris Reeser Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:58 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator
PhotoShop is more versatile and has a shorter learning curve. Illustrator is good if you are making pin diagrams (semiconductors etc). You can take any screenshot, photo of a product, or a picture and edit it in PhotoShop. Illustrator is a designer. Whatever little I know. Illustrator you can't master over a weekend. Photoshop, you can learn to make basic edits in a day. Nandini -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nandini=resonate@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nandini=resonate.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Cris Reeser Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:58 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: OT: Which should we purchase, PhotoShop or Illustrator Does anyone in the group have experience with either of these tools? My writing group is planning to buy either PhotoShop or Illustrator. We need a tool to edit graphics that have been added to PowerPoint or MSWord files. We get PowerPoint slides to edit and clean up for delivery. In places, artwork has been pasted into the slide, but contains white boxes that cover bits of the drawing or text. This method doesn't work in grayscale because the hidden lines or text show up again. We need a tool that lets us remove text in the graphics where we do not have the source file. Are either of these the right tool for this? Which tool would you recommend? Cris Reeser Sr. Technical Writer ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as nandini at resonate.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: How to fix broken links/references. FM crashed again.
Thank you very much for your suggestions, Fred, Art, and Anne. Fred, you are right about problems moving in Windows 2000. I have one new folder, on network drive F (this is part of problem) which contains files moved from the old folder in Windows 2000. I did not move them from FrameMaker 7.2 with save as, but in Windows Explorer, grabbed each file and dropped it in the new folder along with the graphics folder. The graphics are looking to this new folder location after showing correct position for first few graphics. Art, thanks for suggesting the Archive utility. According to the owner, it won't work with the broken references. It will only put all connected book files and graphics in one place. Anne, the idea to rename the folder is excellent, the support guy at Adobe told me it won't work because the files in the book look to the original folder. Apparently, they are not fooled by this trick! I did download and install the patch to 7.2: FM7.2b158. That updated book successfully with about 95 missing fonts messages. But the cross-references did not crop up because I had deselected the option to update them while chatting with support from Adobe. However, the files which I still have the same names as those in the old folder AND for version 4 (this is version 5), are referring to the old folder, even after I go to references, and point them to the new location. I have renamed the files saved in the C folder while saving them from open FrameMaker files individually. When opened, they each have 5 - 16 missing cross-references. Apparently, they are looking at the new folder on the F drive. I have no guarantee that after fixing these references they will behave. My actions to troubleshoot: 1. Created a new folder for the book files and graphics in the local drive C. 2. Went to Drive F, opened the working book. Opened all files. Saved them with save as on Local Drive C, in a new folder along with the Graphics folder. 3. Created a new book, added all files in the C drive book folder in the book. Opened the book and all files. Tried to update book. No missing cross-references message generated. About 100 missing fonts messages generated. Tried to print book to PDF, no result. PDF of fonts messages worked ok. However, when checked individual files, have missing references. Why they do not show up while updating book, is a mystery. The TOC, Index do not get updated either. So looks like the book is not getting updated, nor is it generating missing cross references. 4. When I update the book by choosing update cross references option alone, only missing fonts messages come up. We can buy new fonts, but doesn't FrameMaker give these messages regularly? Times, Times Bold, Times Italic, Times Bold Italic Zapdingbats, Helvetica Oblique, Helvetica Helvetica Bold Oblique, Avant-Garde DemiBold Fonts are not available. 5. Updated all cross-references to look at the C folder renamed files. Should I expect the book to behave? I really appreciate this. The paid for support did not come up with these great suggestions. Nandini P.S. After trying to update the book, gave messages about 7204, 6109922, 7778420, 0. Instruction at 0x0025199f referenced memory at 0x... memory cannot be read. Had to quit program. Only those files for which I had fixed cross-references and the Index and TOC generated recover files in an earlier crash, while the fixed files and Index generated auto (save every x minutes is not selected) files in the second crash. After the crash, all the cross-references reverted to the broken state. Nandini ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
How to fix broken links/references. FM crashed again.
Thank you very much for your suggestions, Fred, Art, and Anne.
Fred, you are right about problems moving in Windows 2000. I have one new
folder, on network drive F (this is part of problem) which contains files
moved from the old folder in Windows 2000. I did not move them from
FrameMaker 7.2 with "save as", but in Windows Explorer, grabbed each file
and dropped it in the new folder along with the graphics folder. The
graphics are looking to this new folder location after showing correct
position for first few graphics.
Art, thanks for suggesting the Archive utility. According to the owner, it
won't work with the broken references. It will only put all connected book
files and graphics in one place.
Anne, the idea to rename the folder is excellent, the support guy at Adobe
told me it won't work because the files in the book look to the original
folder. Apparently, they are not fooled by this trick!
I did download and install the patch to 7.2: FM7.2b158. That updated book
successfully with about 95 "missing fonts" messages. But the
cross-references did not crop up because I had deselected the option to
update them while chatting with support from Adobe.
However, the files which I still have the same names as those in the old
folder AND for version 4 (this is version 5), are referring to the old
folder, even after I go to references, and point them to the new location. I
have renamed the files saved in the C folder while saving them from open
FrameMaker files individually. When opened, they each have 5 - 16 missing
cross-references. Apparently, they are looking at the new folder on the F
drive. I have no guarantee that after fixing these references they will
behave.
My actions to troubleshoot:
1. Created a new folder for the book files and graphics in the local drive
C.
2. Went to Drive F, opened the working book. Opened all files. Saved them
with save as on Local Drive C, in a new folder along with the Graphics
folder.
3. Created a new book, added all files in the C drive book folder in the
book. Opened the book and all files. Tried to update book. No missing
cross-references message generated. About 100 missing fonts messages
generated. Tried to print book to PDF, no result. PDF of fonts messages
worked ok. However, when checked individual files, have missing references.
Why they do not show up while updating book, is a mystery. The TOC, Index do
not get updated either. So looks like the book is not getting updated, nor
is it generating missing cross references.
4. When I update the book by choosing "update cross references option alone,
only "missing fonts" messages come up. We can buy new fonts, but doesn't
FrameMaker give these messages regularly? Times, Times Bold, Times Italic,
Times Bold Italic Zapdingbats, Helvetica Oblique, Helvetica" "Helvetica Bold
Oblique", "Avant-Garde DemiBold" Fonts are not available.
5. Updated all cross-references to look at the C folder renamed files.
Should I expect the book to behave? I really appreciate this. The paid for
support did not come up with these great suggestions.
Nandini
P.S. After trying to update the book, gave messages about 7204, 6109922,
7778420, 0. Instruction at 0x0025199f referenced memory at 0x...
memory cannot be read. Had to quit program.
Only those files for which I had fixed cross-references and the Index and
TOC generated "recover" files in an earlier crash, while the fixed files and
Index generated "auto" ("save every x minutes" is not selected) files in the
second crash. After the crash, all the cross-references reverted to the
broken state.
Nandini
RE: How to de-select Cross-references
Using FrameMaker 7.2, unstructured. This is how the files were transferred to the new location: 1. In Windows, 2000, from the My computer icon on the desktop, clicked and went to the F (network) folder. The files were in CD5 folder CDNewOldFolder. The graphics and book files and the book were in this folder. (Additional versions of book files were here. So to avoid confusion, the following steps were taken by a dear friend. The agony of move...) 2. Created a new folder CD5 User Guide Files outside the CDNewOldFolder folder in the F Folder (directly under the F folder) 3. From CD CD5NewOld folder, selected the files that were part of the book and the book file, and moved it to the new folder. Now the files in the new folder in which I am working and making changes to the files point to the old files in the cross references. After changing all the references to the new folder, no more broken cross-reference show. Should I expect the cross references I add from now on to behave or start to breaking to the old folder? Resolution with your kind feedback: 1. Backup all folders to a CD. 2. Delete the old folder saved under old files folder. 3. rename the new folder to the old name CDNewOldFolder, keep the graphics files this folder as they are. Other small problems: 1. I kept the same names the files were save under in version 4.0 about four years ago. Re-naming them while the book is open should be okay, right? Will try it when all other problems are over. 2. One of the cross-references came up under the code name bumble bees for a chapter name! Thank you. I think I am on the right track by saving the book under the original folder name. Nandini -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:35 PM To: Nandini Garud Subject: RE: How to de-select Cross-references I find myself asking once again, How did you transfer the files to the new location? Was it from FrameMaker using Save As? Or did you do it from Windows? And if you did it from Windows, what method did you use? The behavior is *totally* different if you do this kind of operation from FrameMaker vs. from Windows, and there may be differences between different Windows mechanisms as well. Also, were the component files (e.g. chapters) in the same directory as the corresponding .book files? If not, that may be the root of your problem. The bottom line may be that the simplest way to fix your problem is to forget about the existing .book files and simply build new ones that reference the relocated component files. This should literally be no more than 10 minutes effort for each book. If it were I, I'd try this right now on one book that you know has issues to see if it's a workable solution. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nandini Garud Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: How to de-select Cross-references Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder Old-New on the network drive F, we created a new folder CD5 Book Files on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the Old-New folder instead of the files in the new CD5 Book Files. When I go into Edit update references and choose the new folder CD5 Book Files It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the Old-New folder? We saved it under CD5 Old Book Files. After I chose save every 5 minutes in the preferences, auto copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http
How to de-select Cross-references
Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under "CD5 Old Book Files." After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini
How to de-select Cross-references
Using FrameMaker 7.2, unstructured. This is how the files were transferred to the new location: 1. In Windows, 2000, from the "My computer" icon on the desktop, clicked and went to the F (network) folder. The files were in CD5 folder > CDNewOldFolder. The graphics and book files and the book were in this folder. (Additional versions of book files were here. So to avoid confusion, the following steps were taken by a dear friend. The agony of move...) 2. Created a new folder "CD5 User Guide Files" outside the CDNewOldFolder folder in the F Folder (directly under the F folder) 3. From CD CD5NewOld folder, selected the files that were part of the book and the book file, and moved it to the new folder. Now the files in the new folder in which I am working and making changes to the files point to the old files in the cross references. After changing all the references to the new folder, no more broken cross-reference show. Should I expect the cross references I add from now on to behave or start to breaking to the old folder? Resolution with your kind feedback: 1. Backup all folders to a CD. 2. Delete the old folder saved under "old files" folder. 3. rename the new folder to the old name CDNewOldFolder, keep the graphics files this folder as they are. Other small problems: 1. I kept the same names the files were save under in version 4.0 about four years ago. Re-naming them while the book is open should be okay, right? Will try it when all other problems are over. 2. One of the cross-references came up under the code name "bumble bees" for a chapter name! Thank you. I think I am on the right track by saving the book under the original folder name. Nandini -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:fred.rid...@intel.com] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:35 PM To: Nandini Garud Subject: RE: How to de-select Cross-references I find myself asking once again, "How did you transfer the files to the new location?" Was it from FrameMaker using Save As? Or did you do it from Windows? And if you did it from Windows, what method did you use? The behavior is *totally* different if you do this kind of operation from FrameMaker vs. from Windows, and there may be differences between different Windows mechanisms as well. Also, were the component files (e.g. chapters) in the same directory as the corresponding .book files? If not, that may be the root of your problem. The bottom line may be that the simplest way to fix your problem is to forget about the existing .book files and simply build new ones that reference the relocated component files. This should literally be no more than 10 minutes effort for each book. If it were I, I'd try this right now on one book that you know has issues to see if it's a workable solution. My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+fred.ridder=intel.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nandini Garud Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:03 PM To: arobotti at journalregister.com Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: How to de-select Cross-references Dear Framers, Because there were too many versions of the book files in the folder "Old-New" on the network drive F, we created a new folder "CD5 Book Files" on the same network drive F and transferred the latest copies and the book to that folder. As Frame started looking for the graphics in the old folder, (duh!) we transferred the graphics folder there as well. Now the cross-references (about 100 of them altogether) look to the files in the "Old-New" folder instead of the files in the new "CD5 Book Files". When I go into Edit "update references" and choose the new folder "CD5 Book Files" It works for the files outside the current chapter, but for the current chapter, I have to go inside the file and choose the cross-reference and update it again. These are correct x-references, but the format for the cross-reference comes up as for chapter 4, although the reference is to chapter 5, 6, 3... After updating, when I check the reference, it's the same problem all over again. Would it help to move the book to the "Old-New folder?" We saved it under "CD5 Old Book Files." After I chose "save every 5 minutes" in the preferences, "auto" copies have been created for the files I updated. FrameMaker prompts me whether I want to use those files as the latest saves may be there. Is this why my cross-reference are not taking effect? When I selected edit > update references from the files, I am directed to the file with the .auto extension. Should I delete the auto files and save the original files? Will the cross-references work then and remain working? Sorry for a detailed question. Nandini ___
Best way to recover FrameMaker 7.2 files
While my 16-file book was open and I had updated content in about four files, I somehow got out of the book. The window showed all other files except the book. I saved all files individually with original names, created a new book and put all the files in the book there and called it new book. This was about 6:50 pm. The folder in which I kept all book files now has new files for all chapters in the format copy of first file... copy of second file, and so on and save time of about 6:50 pm. The original files have save time between 4:30 pm to 6 pm as I went about saving them. They have same names as before, my edits seem to be intact in these as well. What book would be preferable to use? The new book created at 6:50 pm, or the original created about two weeks ago? Will the original book surprise me with older information and confused relationships between cross-references? Would I get a clean plate if I switched to the new book and have assurance that the chapters and cross-references will behave if I switched to the new book? Is FrameMaker smart to look to copy of... files for latest info just as it asks to use the recover files instead? Am I on the right track in wanting to save all older files to a separate folder start anew with the new book? Pulling my hair in San Jose Nandini ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Best way to recover FrameMaker 7.2 files
While my 16-file book was open and I had updated content in about four files, I somehow got out of the book. The window showed all other files except the book. I saved all files individually with original names, created a new book and put all the files in the book there and called it "new book". This was about 6:50 pm. The folder in which I kept all book files now has new files for all chapters in the format "copy of first file..." "copy of second file", and so on and save time of about 6:50 pm. The original files have save time between 4:30 pm to 6 pm as I went about saving them. They have same names as before, my edits seem to be intact in these as well. What book would be preferable to use? The "new book" created at 6:50 pm, or the original created about two weeks ago? Will the original book surprise me with older information and confused relationships between cross-references? Would I get a clean plate if I switched to the "new book" and have assurance that the chapters and cross-references will behave if I switched to the "new book"? Is FrameMaker smart to look to "copy of..." files for latest info just as it asks to use the "recover" files instead? Am I on the right track in wanting to save all older files to a separate folder start anew with the new book? Pulling my hair in San Jose Nandini
Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive
Thanks Fred. I have learned that sometimes the path of least resistance is the best solution. Don't ask why, do what works! Nandini -Original Message- From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:59 AM To: nandini at resonate.com Subject: RE: Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive Use your local drive when making screen shots, since that method seems to work OK. Copy the screen shot files from your local drive to the network drive using Windows. Insert the graphics into your FrameMaker docs using the copies that you place on the network drive. >From: "Nandini Garud" >To: >CC: websupport at adobe.com >Subject: Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive >Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:16:32 -0700 > >Using FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows 2000 on the network drive (F), importing >screenshots saved using SnagIt 8.01. Want avoid gray boxes. > >Problems: > >1. When I saved screenshots to the F (network drive) drive, some >screenshots >saved as 1K files (too small a size compared to others), when tried to open >them, received format not recognized message. >2. When imported a .png image captured using SnagIt, by reference, in Frame >7.2, the FrameMaker book with 12 open files crashed, recover files >generated >for every file. Newly typed information not saved. >3. When saved .tif files of screenshots with SnagIt on the network drive, >some .TIF files appeared normal, while some with 1K, non-displayable >format. >These small files don't have anything to import. Message displayed: Frame >cannot recognize this file format, choose format to convert the file. >4. Copied Graphics folder and Book folder from F drive and put them on the >same level In C, the book still looks to the F folder for images. >Redirected >to C, but doesn't budge. > >Troubleshooting: > >1. When saved .TIF files to the local C folder, images appear normal, with >healthy 1 to 2 Meg file size. >2. Saved the images in the C folder to the Graphics folder on F, copied >from >there by reference. > >Thanks. Any suggestions very welcome. > >Nandini
Cannot save some screenshots as .png or .tiff on a network drive
Using FrameMaker 7.2 on Windows 2000 on the network drive (F), importing screenshots saved using SnagIt 8.01. Want avoid gray boxes. Problems: 1. When I saved screenshots to the F (network drive) drive, some screenshots saved as 1K files (too small a size compared to others), when tried to open them, received format not recognized message. 2. When imported a .png image captured using SnagIt, by reference, in Frame 7.2, the FrameMaker book with 12 open files crashed, recover files generated for every file. Newly typed information not saved. 3. When saved .tif files of screenshots with SnagIt on the network drive, some .TIF files appeared normal, while some with 1K, non-displayable format. These small files don't have anything to import. Message displayed: Frame cannot recognize this file format, choose format to convert the file. 4. Copied Graphics folder and Book folder from F drive and put them on the same level In C, the book still looks to the F folder for images. Redirected to C, but doesn't budge. Troubleshooting: 1. When saved .TIF files to the local C folder, images appear normal, with healthy 1 to 2 Meg file size. 2. Saved the images in the C folder to the Graphics folder on F, copied from there by reference. Thanks. Any suggestions very welcome. Nandini
RE: Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
In a lecture at Silicon Valley STC API SIG, the technical honcho at Adobe fielded questions on where FrameMaker was going. A few points: * Enhancement of structured features for single sourcing, reuse of content, and access to content across enterprise * More support for XML and XSLT formats * Creation of Help from XML/XSLT The $200 upgrade works from not only 7.1, but also from 6.0. Therefore, for enhanced book features and multiple undos and redos, it's worth every buck. I upgraded to 7.2 and am quite happy about it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:14 PM To: Neil Tubb Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Release Date for FrameMaker 8? Given that the point releases have been a year or two or longer apart, I think you're pretty safe. Also, Adobe as a company is very good about making good when customers upgrade to a release that is superseded by a newer one. Art On 5/10/06, Neil Tubb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a clue as to Adobe's plans for the next major release of FrameMaker? I'm trying to convince my boss to upgrade us to 7.2 from 7.1 (ooohh...multiple undos!), but he wants to know first if a major upgrade is around the corner. Any insight here would be greatly appreciated. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Release Date for FrameMaker 8?
In a lecture at Silicon Valley STC API SIG, the technical honcho at Adobe fielded questions on where FrameMaker was going. A few points: * Enhancement of structured features for single sourcing, reuse of content, and access to content across enterprise * More support for XML and XSLT formats * Creation of Help from XML/XSLT The $200 upgrade works from not only 7.1, but also from 6.0. Therefore, for enhanced book features and multiple undos and redos, it's worth every buck. I upgraded to 7.2 and am quite happy about it. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nandini=resonate@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nandini=resonate.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:14 PM To: Neil Tubb Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Release Date for FrameMaker 8? Given that the point releases have been a year or two or longer apart, I think you're pretty safe. Also, Adobe as a company is very good about making good when customers upgrade to a release that is superseded by a newer one. Art On 5/10/06, Neil Tubb wrote: > Anyone have a clue as to Adobe's plans for the next major release of > FrameMaker? I'm trying to convince my boss to upgrade us to 7.2 from 7.1 > (ooohh...multiple undos!), but he wants to know first if a major upgrade > is around the corner. Any insight here would be greatly appreciated. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
RE: A bug note on using .png graphics....
Glad to possibly help you Art! I had trouble with FrameMaker freezing and crashing while using Snagit 8.0. Was using save Web URLs and scroll bar for the captured windows. Updated to Snagit 8.01. Used .jpg instead of .png. Works ok in Frame 7.2. When saving these images, get a message to save without the URLs. Can't use scroll bar which is nice to take multiple pictures. Here is admission of trouble from Techsmith: Discussion Thread Response (Melissa G.) 04/25/2006 09:10 AM Nandini, are you using the FrameMaker 7.2 add-in for SnagIt? If so, we have been running into problems with this. SnagIt is currently being tested in our internal testing department for these compatibility issues (and a resolution). You can try, for now, to run SnagIt from the system tray and then pressing PrintScreen when you need to take a capture. Also, make sure your notifications are turned off under tools program preferences notification. Uncheck show all tips and show all balloon tips. Click apply ok to close the window. Nandini Frankly, I am going to switch to 7.0 if the problems persist. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:09 PM To: List, Framers; Free Framers Subject: A bug note on using .png graphics I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after kicking it around a lot, think I may have found a bug either in FM's memory managment (surprise!) or the way it's handling graphics files. * FM 7.2 / 158 * Windows XP SP2 with all patches * Two machines, one with 2 M RAM, one with 3 * FM files and graphics on a network server The symptoms were: * Importing .png files by reference * FM would occasionally display the Gray Box warning message * It would always crash It turned out the graphics I was using were big files that started life on Nikon DSLRs, were massaged in Photoshop CS2, interpolated to size, and were saved out as 300 dpi .png files for import. The details are important, it turns out, because the files retained a 16-bit color depth throughout. And that seems to be the thing that tripped FM up. On a hunch, I knocked the .PNG files down to 8-bit depth in Photoshop and resaved them and voila -- no crashes, no gray boxes, nothing at all untoward. I haven't tested this with other formats to see if the bit-depth is an issue with other file formats, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were. Cheers, Art -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Lines wrapping properly in List of Figures
Can you put the caption name and number in the margin column as a run-in side head? There the chapter name and number can use as much real estate as they want. The caption (figure name will have plenty of space in the text column.) In LOF, just list the figures based on chapter names and number under different sub-headings and list figures under the subheadings by numbers, names, and page numbers. Nandini -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:56 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Lines wrapping properly in List of Figures We are generating a book with over 50 chapters, each of which has a number of figures. So far, we have decided that the product name and the screen name should be included in the figure caption, so several of them are quite long. I'm using Frame 7.0 on Windows XP. I have been able to format the LOF so that if the caption text is too long for the line, it wraps and a tab places the page number at the far right margin of the 2nd line. The only time this doesn't happen is when the caption text is just long enough to fit on one line, not long enough to wrap, but long enough to force the page number to the next line. When that happens, the caption text is on one line and the page number on another, but the number is at the left margin, not the right. I have tried adjusting tabs, inserting nonbreaking spaces at the end of the problem captions,and playing with letter spacing, with no luck. I have two tabs for this paragraph, one between the figure number and the caption text, and one between the caption text and the page number. I need to have the number on the right margin, even if the text is just long enough to fit on the line and only the number gets pushed to the next line. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can make this happen? So far, only manual intervention to force a tab on the second line has worked, but we have a lot of figures so this is not the preferred solution. Thanks in advance! Susan McDonald Teradyne, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
A bug & note on using .png graphics....
Glad to possibly help you Art! I had trouble with FrameMaker freezing and crashing while using Snagit 8.0. Was using save Web URLs and scroll bar for the captured windows. Updated to Snagit 8.01. Used .jpg instead of .png. Works ok in Frame 7.2. When saving these images, get a message to save without the URLs. Can't use scroll bar which is nice to take multiple pictures. Here is admission of trouble from Techsmith: Discussion Thread Response (Melissa G.) 04/25/2006 09:10 AM Nandini, are you using the FrameMaker 7.2 add-in for SnagIt? If so, we have been running into problems with this. SnagIt is currently being tested in our internal testing department for these compatibility issues (and a resolution). You can try, for now, to run SnagIt from the system tray and then pressing PrintScreen when you need to take a capture. Also, make sure your notifications are turned off under tools > program preferences > notification. Uncheck show all tips and show all balloon tips. Click apply > ok to close the window. Nandini Frankly, I am going to switch to 7.0 if the problems persist. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nandini=resonate@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nandini=resonate.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 1:09 PM To: List, Framers; Free Framers Subject: A bug & note on using .png graphics I recently ran into a problem using .png graphics in files and after kicking it around a lot, think I may have found a bug either in FM's memory managment (surprise!) or the way it's handling graphics files. * FM 7.2 / 158 * Windows XP SP2 with all patches * Two machines, one with 2 M RAM, one with 3 * FM files and graphics on a network server The symptoms were: * Importing .png files by reference * FM would occasionally display the "Gray Box" warning message * It would always crash It turned out the graphics I was using were big files that started life on Nikon DSLRs, were massaged in Photoshop CS2, interpolated to size, and were saved out as 300 dpi .png files for import. The details are important, it turns out, because the files retained a 16-bit color depth throughout. And that seems to be the thing that tripped FM up. On a hunch, I knocked the .PNG files down to 8-bit depth in Photoshop and resaved them and voila -- no crashes, no gray boxes, nothing at all untoward. I haven't tested this with other formats to see if the bit-depth is an issue with other file formats, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were. Cheers, Art -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___
Lines wrapping properly in List of Figures
Can you put the caption name and number in the margin column as a run-in side head? There the chapter name and number can use as much real estate as they want. The caption (figure name will have plenty of space in the text column.) In LOF, just list the figures based on chapter names and number under different sub-headings and list figures under the subheadings by numbers, names, and page numbers. Nandini -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nandini=resonate@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nandini=resonate.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of susan.mcdonald at teradyne.com Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:56 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Lines wrapping properly in List of Figures We are generating a book with over 50 chapters, each of which has a number of figures. So far, we have decided that the product name and the screen name should be included in the figure caption, so several of them are quite long. I'm using Frame 7.0 on Windows XP. I have been able to format the LOF so that if the caption text is too long for the line, it wraps and a tab places the page number at the far right margin of the 2nd line. The only time this doesn't happen is when the caption text is just long enough to fit on one line, not long enough to wrap, but long enough to force the page number to the next line. When that happens, the caption text is on one line and the page number on another, but the number is at the left margin, not the right. I have tried adjusting tabs, inserting nonbreaking spaces at the end of the problem captions,and playing with letter spacing, with no luck. I have two tabs for this paragraph, one between the figure number and the caption text, and one between the caption text and the page number. I need to have the number on the right margin, even if the text is just long enough to fit on the line and only the number gets pushed to the next line. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can make this happen? So far, only manual intervention to force a tab on the second line has worked, but we have a lot of figures so this is not the preferred solution. Thanks in advance! Susan McDonald Teradyne, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as nandini at resonate.com. Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/nandini%40resonate.com Send administrative questions to lisa at frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Changed names of files in a book. How to recover X-references?
I have a deep dark and most embarrassing secret. I changed the names of the first three files in a book while converting from FrameMaker 6.0 to unstructured 7.2. So as not to affect legacy files, I transferred them to another hard drive and changed names of the files and the book. As I updated the files for the new release, I changed variable names for the product, deleted two old variable names for components that are no longer used and deleted about 10 pages, which contained cross-references. The cross-references still refer to old file names because they are behaving as if the old book exists. Every time I add new information, and save a file, I get foul messages about cross-references being broken. Can I salvage my effort by saving the book under the old name and the files under the old name? When I attempted to save the files under the old names, I got the message that replacing it will break cross-references. What if I copy the content for the first two chapters that are changed drastically and cut and paste it in old book files (will still have broken cross-references which I will have to fix)? Right now, as I open and change a new file, cross-references are broken? How can I avoid the repetition of the broken references for the rest of the files? Nandini ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Changed names of files in a book. How to recover X-references?
I have a deep dark and most embarrassing secret. I changed the names of the first three files in a book while converting from FrameMaker 6.0 to unstructured 7.2. So as not to affect legacy files, I transferred them to another hard drive and changed names of the files and the book. As I updated the files for the new release, I changed variable names for the product, deleted two old variable names for components that are no longer used and deleted about 10 pages, which contained cross-references. The cross-references still refer to old file names because they are behaving as if the old book exists. Every time I add new information, and save a file, I get foul messages about cross-references being broken. Can I salvage my effort by saving the book under the old name and the files under the old name? When I attempted to save the files under the old names, I got the message that replacing it will break cross-references. What if I copy the content for the first two chapters that are changed drastically and cut and paste it in old book files (will still have broken cross-references which I will have to fix)? Right now, as I open and change a new file, cross-references are broken? How can I avoid the repetition of the broken references for the rest of the files? Nandini
