Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-12-01 Thread Andrew Silva
Sent: 17 November 2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, n3td3v wrote: ... If I was in gov, I would shut a site down that looks remotely hax0rish, even if they've done nothing wrong. All these crews

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-22 Thread I.R. van Dongen
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 23:30:18 - raza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zero tollerence. What will these doofuses think of next? I bet they start up a cult of personality around the nation's leader, including a new salute borrowed from the Romans. Godwin.

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-21 Thread devis
Did u just realize what u posted ? xploitable _ at _ gmail.com wants to close hacking sites. Dude, what are you on ? I want some n3td3v wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:26:12 -0600, Todd Towles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this to n3td3v yesterday. Why look into the news..just go to the

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-21 Thread devis
One. Its tolerance. Two. I am glad you are not in charge of this world, or freedom will have ceased. n3td3v wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:53:44 +, n3td3v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:41:20 -0600, Todd Towles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it is given that posting

RE: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-18 Thread Michael Simpson
a couple of things/adding to the noise I am from the UK and its clear to me that you don't understand the concept of freedom of information ! i am also from the uk and we have the most complete censorship of any democracy so it's clear that **WE** don't understand freedom of information also

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-18 Thread Barrie Dempster
On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 23:19 +, n3td3v wrote: snip Imagine a child abuse site which also kept a score board of the biggest amount of child porn photo posters. Yet again we move onto malicious hacker online crimes, it seems to be different for zone-h to keep scores of the biggest malicious

RE: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-18 Thread Cassidy Macfarlane
defaced a commercial web site. /me whistles innocently -Original Message- From: n3td3v [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 November 2004 23:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:29:19 -0700 (MST), Bruce Ediger

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-18 Thread Rob klein Gunnewiek
n3td3v: go troll somewhere else, there are probably more idiots like you who love bullshit like that -- Rob klein Gunnewiek ___ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html

FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread Todd Towles
I sent this to n3td3v yesterday. Why look into the news..just go to the DOJ website...st8r to the fish's mouth. Indictment for hundreds of credit cards, UK passports, state licenses, school IDs, bank accounts...etc.. -Original Message- From: Todd Towles Sent: Tuesday, November 16,

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread n3td3v
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:26:12 -0600, Todd Towles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I sent this to n3td3v yesterday. Why look into the news..just go to the DOJ website...st8r to the fish's mouth. Indictment for hundreds of credit cards, UK passports, state licenses, school IDs, bank accounts...etc..

RE: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread Jim Tuttle
, this isn't a flame. Jim Tuttle Tuttle Information Systems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of n3td3v Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 10:06 AM To: Todd Towles; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread Bruce Ediger
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, n3td3v wrote: ... If I was in gov, I would shut a site down that looks remotely hax0rish, even if they've done nothing wrong. All these crews and hacker groups, fk them all. The net needs zero tollerence with online crime. Govs should have the authority to

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread n3td3v
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 11:41:20 -0600, Todd Towles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it is given that posting to FD does give a site exposure (good and bad). But I wouldn't say that FD was the cause of it..it was the illegal activity that was the cause of it. We all know SCC does some underground

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread n3td3v
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:29:19 -0700 (MST), Bruce Ediger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the US Government operates under the auspices of a small document called The Constitution, and a little concept called Common Law. Now, I know that you trendy kids call things like that quaint (I

RE: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread raza
2004 20:29 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, n3td3v wrote: ... If I was in gov, I would shut a site down that looks remotely hax0rish, even if they've done nothing wrong. All these crews and hacker groups, fk

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread Micah McNelly
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:29:19 -0700 (MST), Bruce Ediger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the US Government operates under the auspices of a small document called

Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment

2004-11-17 Thread Jason Coombs
What happened to the government can have my electronic speech when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers ? Many people fail to understand that incompetency knows no limits or bounds. It is alive and well in all human institutions and activities, and each one of us is in fact incompetent in