Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 28, Issue 19

2013-05-09 Thread Sylvia Ventura
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Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 28, Issue 19

2013-05-09 Thread Karina Alexanyan
Hi folks, I've just been watching this list quietly (and the other one I'm interested in, Education). I'm a newbie to Wikipedia and this conversation in general. But I have an idea - what about a list of problem pages (in terms of gender content) for women to go to and edit. Especially

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: The Terms of Use prohibit harassment, which is the same word that's used to characterize the behaviors the friendly space policy prohibits. So at least in that respect the two are already somewhat analogous.

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Two good posts. Bear in mind though that there is also a half-way house solution, whereby contributors would identify to the Foundation, but remain at liberty to use a pseudonymous user name. Identification might then be a prerequisite for certain community roles (as indeed it is today).

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 28, Issue 20

2013-05-09 Thread Sylvia Ventura
Karina, you might want to start here, there might be other more recent pages, the Teahouse is also a good place to get advice and get started.

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Oliver Keyes
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Two good posts. Bear in mind though that there is also a half-way house solution, whereby contributors would identify to the Foundation, but remain at liberty to use a pseudonymous user name. This would involve

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 28, Issue 20

2013-05-09 Thread Keilana
Hi Karina! Yes, WikiProject Women Scientists keeps a list of women scientists without articles. We also have a box on our main page that shows the quality of articles - they're quite poor so almost anywhere is a good place to start. I'm so glad to see you're interested! Feel free to send me an

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Pete, I don't know which Commons you participate in. The one I know has tons of nude pictures of women uploaded by anonymous throwaway accounts,

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Sarah Stierch
Hi, I have some comments inline. ---o0o--- This image, originally posted to Flickr, was reviewed on 3 March 2013 by the administrator or reviewer Mattbuck, who confirmed that it was available on Flickr under the stated license on that date. ---o0o--- Zero concern for model consent to

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Pete, Please suggest a revised wording that you feel would be clearer. Then we can request that the board adopt it and amend the resolution accordingly. Andreas On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:38 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: The resolution wording is: ---o0o--- We feel that it

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Russavia
Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based purely upon the opinions of editors who are members of this mailing list, or do you intend to open it up to discussion for the wider, including the Commons, community? On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I have some comments inline. ---o0o--- This image, originally posted to Flickr, was reviewed on 3 March 2013 by the administrator or reviewer Mattbuck, who confirmed that it was available on Flickr under the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based purely upon the opinions of editors who are members of this mailing list, or do you intend to open it up to discussion for the wider, including the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based purely upon the opinions of editors who are members of this mailing list, or

Re: [Gendergap] Gendergap Digest, Vol 28, Issue 21

2013-05-09 Thread Sylvia Ventura
/gendergap/attachments/20130509/fe5b89cd/attachment.html -- ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap End of Gendergap Digest, Vol 28, Issue 21

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: Would you like the board to adopt and amend a resolution based

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Russavia
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Would you feel that is sufficient? This would make it clearer that editors are expected to obtain subject consent before uploading images taken in private situations to Wikimedia websites. Define private situations.

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread phoebe ayers
(changing the topic back) On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:29 PM, Sylvia Ventura slvent...@gmail.com wrote: Anne, you're absolutely right on the 'high profile'. The broader the reach, impact, exposure, the more likely you are to become the target of good and bad 'attention'. The question is, much

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Gayle Karen Young
One of the things I talked to one of the female admins about is figuring out how to better support them in the stuff they have to deal with, and it's on my radar. That's just an FYI. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 5:57 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: (changing the topic back) On Thu,

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Russavia
Actually, it's total gobbledygook. But can you confirm that what you take it to mean is that quite simply consent is required if the photo is taken in a private place with an expectation of privacy? Cheers Russavia ___ Gendergap mailing list

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Sarah Stierch
I'm glad to hear that Gayle. But please remember - female admins get it bad, but, the attention I got, wasn't upped when I became an admin. Yes, i'm a bit more of a known person than perhaps other women in the community (right now) but...I know women (Cristamuse, Slim Virgin, just to name two)

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
I know women (Cristamuse, Slim Virgin, just to name two) who deal with plenty of crap and *ARE NOT* admins. Actually, Sara, Slim Virgin is an admin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:UserRights/SlimVirgin And are you sure you’ve got the other username right?

Re: [Gendergap] Accidental Troll Policy - beyond gender gap

2013-05-09 Thread Nepenthe
Presumably Sarah means Cindamusehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Cindamuse . On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 9:12 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: I know women (Cristamuse, Slim Virgin, just to name two) who deal with plenty of crap and *ARE NOT* admins. Actually,

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Daniel and Elizabeth Case
It took me one minute to find the uploads of this user: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Austin_photoguy50 Please nominate all of them for deletion. I will be interested in watching how what goes. Done. With the WMF resolution linked and quoted at length.

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Katherine Casey
Oh dear, I'm not sure there's enough vodka in the universe for us all to play that drinking game, Daniel! Especially given that closed by Mattbuck as delete probably ought to be a finish your drink qualifier... -Fluffernutter On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Nepenthe
File:Ronda F7998.JPGhttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ronda_F7998.JPGis clearly in scope. Could be used to illustrate Urn, Vase, Pottery, Crosslegged etc. On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: I will be of course posting a link to this list on the

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Andreas Kolbe
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:08 AM, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.comwrote: I will be of course posting a link to this list on the DR given the idiocy and trolling of a Commons admin going on here. Cheers, Russavia The message you posted at the DR, ---o0o--- *Comment* This nomination

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Russavia
Fluffernutter, That is a totally ridiculous comment to make. Do I have to show you just how ridiculous it is by generating a list of sexuality discussions that Mattbuck has 1) nominated for deletion or 2) closed as delete. Of course, if one was more active on Commons

Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up

2013-05-09 Thread Russavia
Erik, I will answer your questions, only too happy to, and you are free to pass my answers on to others within the foundation. Because it is something that I have trying addressing with others in the foundation in the past, but which has been ignored by way of no reply. But I would prefer that