Exactly. It would inoculate some of these articles against premature
deletion requests. While the red link focus is good, the newbies aren't
necessarily ready to write an article from scratch. Adding refs is perfect
place to start developing editing skills, especially if the source has
already
Yes, a bot-driven list would be quite helpful, if for no other reason than
being standardized and therefore race- and gender-blind as far as selection
criteria. I have just finished compiling a list from the NYT article, and
it was very labor intensive just to generate the list, before even
nice work
this is worth making into do list and adding to women in red tasks
it might be worth scraping nytimes and working back, i.e.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/obituaries/notable-deaths-2014.html
this is a nice task for newbies, like the 1lib1ref for everyone, just
sprinkling
>At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what is an obituary."
>Newspapers also run "death notices" which (both in print and >online) look
>much like obituaries, but are actually paid advertisements. I'm not even
>certain that the terminology ("obituary"=editorial, >"death
i should not imagine a fear of paid notices, should prevent a systematic
inclusion of NYTimes obits, which are assumed notable.
especially with the reference generator doing all the formatting.
no one is doing this; the article mentions 25% female among these. i.e. we
don't include reliable
Jim,
Sorry, I should have been clearer -- I didn't mean to take issue with the
original post (which raises a worthy point), merely to introduce another
dimension that I learned about only recently, which came as a surprise.
It's possible that the NY Times does a good job of maintaining a clear
some obits are not behind paywall.
a reference to do list would make good work.
maybe we could get Mietchen or Magnus to make an automated list article /
category "list of people with obituaries"
cheers
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Neotarf wrote:
> Links to lists in
"there seems to be no process to systematically incorporate these,
even when they provide strong support for notability."
In fact, there's a lot of discouragement when you try to incorporate
people from notable obits into the Deaths in 20xx articles: redlinks
removed, stubs targeted for deletion.
At least in the USA, we have to be cautious about "what is an obituary."
Newspapers also run "death notices" which (both in print and online) look
much like obituaries, but are actually paid advertisements. I'm not even
certain that the terminology ("obituary"=editorial, "death notice"=paid ad)
is
pete,
the article linked is listing NYTimes, WashPost, and LATimes.
not the paid notices
there seems to be no process to systematically incorporate these, even when
they provide strong support for notability.
cheers
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Pete Forsyth wrote:
>
Links to lists in major news outlets (NYT, BBC, LA TImes, Toronto Star,
etc.) along with commentary on gender bias in obits:
http://forward.com/sisterhood/330631/for-women-gender-bias-continues-even-in-death/
The three women listed in the article do have WP articles. It would take
some
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