Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

2014-08-02 Thread Carol Moore dc
On 8/2/2014 1:37 AM, Keilana wrote: To briefly go back to what Sarah and Marie have said, I do find that in person hand-holding and social support are the most effective factors in getting women to stick around. I don't know how to translate that from the real-world environment I teach newbies

[Gendergap] Discussion on Jimbo Wales talk page

2014-08-02 Thread Carol Moore dc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Rebooted_discussion This whole topic is going hot on heave on his talk page, starting with his proposal which I mention in my response on the proposalbelow: What if it was far more limited: /WMF hires mediators to do mediation and to

[Gendergap] Tweet on Paula England

2014-08-02 Thread Kathleen McCook
I saw this tweet Philip Cohen. from https://twitter.com/familyunequal/status/495662217149546496 ​Attention, gender sociologists: Paula England has no Wikipedia page. Someone should make one before she becomes president of @ASAnews https://twitter.com/ASAnews.​ What do we do when

[Gendergap] Sessions at Wikimania related to gender gap

2014-08-02 Thread Netha Hussain
Hi all, I have put together a list of sessions which may be relevant to the members of this list. If you are going to Wikimania in London (Aug 6-10), you might find these sessions interesting : *

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

2014-08-02 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
IRC is almost embarrassingly old technology; Wikimedia Foundation projects are the only place I've seen it mentioned in the last five years or more. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: We already have #wikipedia-en-help which is remarkably good for a volunteer

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

2014-08-02 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
That's exactly my point, Pine. This kind of inside-baseball geekery is so much Choctaw to the ordinary new editor we are trying to recruit and retain, people more likely to be using Pinterest or Skype or Ravelry to communicate with peers and mentors. On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Pine W

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

2014-08-02 Thread Sarah Stierch
Exactly. IRC is for the old school and ubergeek. And as Sue has said in the past - we're only going to retain specific types of people to be long term editors (ubergeeks like us) but, if we can figure out a solution to help out the average joe/sphine editor... then huzzah. That's what the

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

2014-08-02 Thread Pine W
I think we are talking past each other. The issue I responded to was about live help, which we offer, is used extensively for English Wikipedia, and should be respected. Advertising the existing service to more editors is surely better than not doing so. If we are talking about longer-term

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

2014-08-02 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
Thank you, Sarah. I hope that subjects like this will be part of the discussion in Washington, whether I get to go or not. (I have applied, but I'm an old white male so….) On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly. IRC is for the old school and

Re: [Gendergap] Sexualized environment on Commons

2014-08-02 Thread Janine Starykowicz
There are plenty of people using IRC, but many of them don't know it. There are chatroom/IRC hybrids, generally on forum sites. You embed the chat window in a web page, and anyone can join in. Those who want can use any IRC client to get to the same channel, but with more features.