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Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
I don't know of a case of hate speech under UK law that has been brought by a
non-UK resident. Looking online tends to push you towards information regarding
extradition, but that's not really what we
. As far as I know it would
not require any action or any threat of action on the part of the other editor
concerned.
Marie
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 21:22:35 +
From: jayen...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
David Auerbach
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Marie
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Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:41:36 -0500
From: neot...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
Double standard. Where are all the usual voices protesting about
civility police? Where
against X whilst the UK jailed him / her.
Marie
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:41:36 -0500
From: neot...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
Double standard. Where are all the usual voices protesting about civility
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Marie Earley eir...@hotmail.com wrote:
Yes, no action from ArbCom or however, followed by a criminal conviction.
Quotes from the judge in the criminal trial appearing in the media
alongside quotes from those on-wiki who just said, Closing this... no
action...
The litmus test is whether what they have said is not only 'offensive' but,
'grossly offensive'. Wikipedia's internal systems and thresholds would make
no difference to the authorities in the UK. It would be interesting to see
what the public fall-out would be if Wikipedia decided that no
: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
Double standard. Where are all the usual voices protesting about
civility police? Where are all the arbitrators opining that they cannot
set objective standards for language?
Beeblebrox used to have an article about fuck off in his user space
/ her.
Marie
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:41:36 -0500
From: neot...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
Double standard. Where are all the usual voices protesting about civility
police? Where are all the arbitrators opining
you.
Marie
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:24:12 -0500
From: carolmoor...@verizon.net
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
On 1/25/2015 6:17 PM, Nathan wrote:
I think the lesson it sends is that a righteous cause
Thanks for the link and explanation. It fooled me then, I saw it as
simple bigotry and stopped reading about it, or anything that Tarc had
to say from there on.
I agree with your comment about being cautious about sarcasm or
reductio ad absurdum on the internet. Bigoted language as a joke,
parody
Fae, this is really very off-topic for this thread at this point. Would
mind going off-list if you want to discuss personal history with others?
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
I suggest that as a supporter and administrator of a website that
labels me as a faggot,
On Jan 26, 2015, at 2:43 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote:
Tarc, I felt your lipstick on a pig comment about a transexual was
not just disgusting, but was a key example of why we needed a WM-LGBT
user group to both highlight and gradually improve a hostile culture
on Wikimedia projects that
/redditors are
going to be pulling, once some of us have been swept away.
-t
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 09:26:47 -0500
From: slowki...@gmail.com
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
well, they did not revdel
On 1/25/2015 1:03 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
After reviewing the Arbcom case, I don't even know who got the idea
that any of the contributing editors are feminist, per se. No one even
mentions the word, except once, when describing a subject that was
slandered in the gamer gate article(s).
I
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com
wrote:
After reviewing the Arbcom case, I don't even know who got the idea that
any of the contributing editors are feminist, per se. No one even
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com
wrote:
Note: most of the in trouble editor's aren't that productive at
contributing feminist content to Wikipedia. I have interacted with only
four of them - Black Kite, Future Perfect at Sunrise, TarainDC and Bilby -
only
I largely agree with Sarah.
After several years taking a break from using the Checkuser tool, in early
January I decided to actively join the the team again. So, I read all the
active ArbCom cases to familarize myself with the current controversies on
Wikipedia. During my reading of the GamerGate
I am now on digest mode with this mailing list. The traffic is often too
much for me and the voice of this list is frustrating for me
sometimes..so... remember that please :)
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I have been asked to share my thoughts by many people this morning on the
internet, here they are:
I have been
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
well, they did not revdel it.
arbcom can drive the discussion off wiki,
but cannot ban the Guardian for bad journalism
certain account behaviors are being favored
you should expect to see a lot more
I'm sure it's hard to remain calm and thoughtful when 8chan is running 24/7
discussion threads to:
1. Strategize on how to subvert the consensus process to take over the
article
2. Target Wikipedia editors for doxxing and harassment so that they will
stop defending the article
The assault was
On 1/25/2015 6:17 PM, Nathan wrote:
I think the lesson it sends is that a righteous cause is not a defense
against accusations of disruption, nor a license to violate other
policies. I'm sure that among the restricted people are those with
positions I'd support along with many others, but
Suppose I should say a brief something since some of the posts here talk
about me. I have been caustic and acerbic at the Wikipedia over the years,
though in fits and starts I am trying to take it down a few notches. So, yea,
I'm quite aware that I'm not the best poster-child for any
I think in both your case and Devil's Advocate (even though you take
opposite positions) there may have been annoyance that you both very
vocally took the wrong position on GGTF on the arbitration talk pages
so this may be at least partial payback...
On 1/25/2015 8:12 PM, Tarc . wrote:
st want to make it clear that don't consider myself to be a feminist,
whatever that is. I was not a member of GGTF and have never edited in the
topic of gender. I saw the disruptions on the page, and tried to give some
support and validation to the only admin I saw trying to deal with the
I just went and read GorillaWarfare's votes. She is my eyes and ears there.
that is, I trust her judgement. She is an excellent arbitrator, and I wish
the Committee had 4 or 5 more like her.
On Jan 23, 2015 10:07 PM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote:
The rediculous thing is that none
I think one thing that could help is to reclaim the GGTF. The thing is to
remain unflappable and ignore The Troll.
On Jan 24, 2015 9:36 AM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:26 AM, J Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
well, they did not revdel it.
arbcom can drive the
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Subject: Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:26 AM, J Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
well, they did not revdel it.
arbcom can drive the discussion off wiki,
but cannot ban the Guardian for bad journalism
certain account behaviors
On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 7:26 AM, J Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
well, they did not revdel it.
arbcom can drive the discussion off wiki,
but cannot ban the Guardian for bad journalism
certain account behaviors are being favored
you should expect to see a lot more of those behaviors in
well, they did not revdel it.
arbcom can drive the discussion off wiki,
but cannot ban the Guardian for bad journalism
certain account behaviors are being favored
you should expect to see a lot more of those behaviors in the future
this will necessitate a lot of wiki-splaining
thank-you arbcom
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23/wikipedia-bans-editors-from-gender-related-articles-amid-gamergate-controversy
http://internet.gawker.com/wikipedia-purged-a-group-of-feminist-editors-because-of-1681463331/+cushac
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On 1/23/2015 10:34 PM, Sarah wrote:
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:14 PM, J Hayes slowki...@gmail.com
mailto:slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23/wikipedia-bans-editors-from-gender-related-articles-amid-gamergate-controversy
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 8:14 PM, J Hayes slowki...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/23/wikipedia-bans-editors-from-gender-related-articles-amid-gamergate-controversy
The rediculous thing is that none of the people defending that article were
'feminists'. They were just defending the mainstream point of view from an
endless onslaught of 8channers. The feminist point view isn't even represented
in the article.
On Jan 23, 2015, at 7:14 PM, J Hayes
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