Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread Peter Southwood
At the risk of being labelled biased, I do not see that that was a legitimate fix to address systemic bias. It looked rather pointy to me. Perhaps you could explain just how it addressed systemic bias in a useful way. Cheers, Peter From: Gendergap

Re: [Gendergap] Women only events ?

2017-05-27 Thread Peter Southwood
As another male member of this list, I agree with Pine, both in general and with the specific examples he gives. Cheers, Peter From: Gendergap [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W Sent: Saturday, 27 May 2017 6:45 AM To: Addressing gender equity and exploring

Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread Heather Walls
Inline replies to 3 people... On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 1:57 PM, J Hayes wrote: > the smaller wikis have ownership issues , the arguments are so vehement > because the stakes are so small. > > i would advise trying out lots of other wikis like commons or wikisource > or

Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread J Hayes
because better to leave and do productive work elsewhere, and let wictionary die, than to fight and get burnt out and blocked. we all have to decide where we are on exit versus voice - many people are choosing to leave, it is a rational alternative. SItranscribe is built on ex-wikipedia

Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread Neotarf
Hello all, I first saw this on the mailing list and not through email, so the links did not come through and I had to search around the edit histories for a while. What I saw was a lot of errors--errors in pronunciation markings, in wiki text markup, and in not knowing where the first attributed

Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread Risker
Hello Jessy - I see that your second effort[1], where you eliminated all references to physical appearance of either gender was accepted. I think that was appropriate. I think what was a bigger issue in your first effort was that you just switched male to female and vice versa, but left in the

Re: [Gendergap] Wiktionary *desperately* needs more gender-aware editors

2017-05-27 Thread JJ Marr
I, personally, would rather that this list not be used to criticize specific editors in a forum that they have no opportunity to respond in. I'm not a list admin, but I'm pretty sure this list is for talking about general issues relating to the gender gap. I would strongly recommend to use the

Re: [Gendergap] Let's go gender neutral

2017-05-27 Thread Neotarf
>>> "that's very good i have not had any luck engaging partollers." Ha, did you try barnstars? So here is a link to my article tutorial, feel free to introduce it to patrollers or anyone else. https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Neotarf=prev=16635615 @Fae, congratulations on

Re: [Gendergap] "WikiTribune" and gender gap

2017-05-27 Thread Peter Southwood
If that means "one or two", I agree with you. If it means "half", I would prefer getting one that is completely professional :-) Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Gendergap [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Carol Moore dc Sent: Tuesday, 25 April 2017 6:05