Re: [GNC-dev] Is ellipsis in Loan Repayment Options intended?

2023-05-12 Thread David T. via gnucash-devel
Boy, does that look painful. Although I understand the intention, the results 
aren't actually grammatical.

There's the comma splice in the title text: "Do you utilize an escrow account, 
if so an account must be specified..."

Then, adding the tail end for the various options results in gibberish: "... if 
so an account must be specified ... pay taxes"-- doesn't make sense. 

So this is just a fail on all levels. 

It would be preferable if this were rewritten to use more formal language. 

Like:

Title: Escrow Account Settings

Content
If your loan utilizes an escrow account, enter the necessary information here. 

Use Escrow Account
  Escrow account 
Escrow includes Taxes
Escrow includes Insurance
Escrow includes PMI
Escrow includes other expenses

I'll admit I have never used this assistant, so I don't know why each option 
includes a secondary check box, or what effect the choices have, but I'll leave 
that to others. 


⁣David T. ​

On May 12, 2023, 8:04 PM, at 8:04 PM, john  wrote:
>Brian,
>
>The ellipses indicate that the title is finished by each of the choices
>and the omission of the word "to". It's perhaps not the best usage, but
>it's valid English and I suppose an attempt to make the assistant feel
>more conversational that the more conventional title and enumerated
>choices.
>
>Regards,
>John Ralls
>
>
>> On May 12, 2023, at 7:03 AM, BrianHsu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> During the translation, I found that Loan Repayment Options has lots
>> of ellipsis, for example, it displays ...pay "Taxes"? / ... pay
>"PMI"?
>> as the shown in the attached screenshot.
>> 
>> Even the first sentence of that page is "if so an account must be
>> specified...", ends with ellipsis. It's very unusual in an assistant
>> window.
>> 
>> Visually it's very cumbersome, and seems to me it serves no purpose
>> (for example, make it grammatically correctly in English) or any
>> special meaning.
>> 
>> Since English is not my native language, I'm wondering, is this
>intended or not?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> 許洛豪(Brian Hsu)
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Re: [GNC-dev] Is ellipsis in Loan Repayment Options intended?

2023-05-12 Thread BrianHsu
Hi, john,

Thanks for the explanation. It's makes sense for me now and really
useful to help me improve the translation.
Since in our native language we never use this kind of omission, I
will change it to something that's more nature in my language.

Thanks.

john  於 2023年5月13日 週六 上午1:04寫道:
>
> Brian,
>
> The ellipses indicate that the title is finished by each of the choices and 
> the omission of the word "to". It's perhaps not the best usage, but it's 
> valid English and I suppose an attempt to make the assistant feel more 
> conversational that the more conventional title and enumerated choices.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
> > On May 12, 2023, at 7:03 AM, BrianHsu  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > During the translation, I found that Loan Repayment Options has lots
> > of ellipsis, for example, it displays ...pay "Taxes"? / ... pay "PMI"?
> > as the shown in the attached screenshot.
> >
> > Even the first sentence of that page is "if so an account must be
> > specified...", ends with ellipsis. It's very unusual in an assistant
> > window.
> >
> > Visually it's very cumbersome, and seems to me it serves no purpose
> > (for example, make it grammatically correctly in English) or any
> > special meaning.
> >
> > Since English is not my native language, I'm wondering, is this intended or 
> > not?
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> > 許洛豪(Brian Hsu)
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>


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Re: [GNC-dev] Is ellipsis in Loan Repayment Options intended?

2023-05-12 Thread john
Brian,

The ellipses indicate that the title is finished by each of the choices and the 
omission of the word "to". It's perhaps not the best usage, but it's valid 
English and I suppose an attempt to make the assistant feel more conversational 
that the more conventional title and enumerated choices.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On May 12, 2023, at 7:03 AM, BrianHsu  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> During the translation, I found that Loan Repayment Options has lots
> of ellipsis, for example, it displays ...pay "Taxes"? / ... pay "PMI"?
> as the shown in the attached screenshot.
> 
> Even the first sentence of that page is "if so an account must be
> specified...", ends with ellipsis. It's very unusual in an assistant
> window.
> 
> Visually it's very cumbersome, and seems to me it serves no purpose
> (for example, make it grammatically correctly in English) or any
> special meaning.
> 
> Since English is not my native language, I'm wondering, is this intended or 
> not?
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> 
> 許洛豪(Brian Hsu)
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[GNC-dev] Is ellipsis in Loan Repayment Options intended?

2023-05-12 Thread BrianHsu
Hi,

During the translation, I found that Loan Repayment Options has lots
of ellipsis, for example, it displays ...pay "Taxes"? / ... pay "PMI"?
as the shown in the attached screenshot.

Even the first sentence of that page is "if so an account must be
specified...", ends with ellipsis. It's very unusual in an assistant
window.

Visually it's very cumbersome, and seems to me it serves no purpose
(for example, make it grammatically correctly in English) or any
special meaning.

Since English is not my native language, I'm wondering, is this intended or not?

-- 
Best regards,

許洛豪(Brian Hsu)
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