Op donderdag 13 september 2018 19:36:27 CEST schreef John Ralls:
> > On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:52 AM, John Ralls wrote:
> >> On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, David T. via gnucash-devel
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Odd. How would GnuCash access that on a different user login?
> >>
> >> Just for completeness,
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:52 AM, John Ralls wrote:
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>
>
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, David T. via gnucash-devel
>> wrote:
>>
>> Odd. How would GnuCash access that on a different user login?
>>
>> Just for completeness, I checked in /Library/Preferences as well, but did
>> not find
/Library *is* meant as a system-wide (OS-level) storage location; Mac software
seem to like sprinkling these settings in the various locations, regardless of
rights.
Finder is one of those major oddities, I believe; searches there are often
incomplete.
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 12:02 PM, Adrien
--nofile worked.
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 11:52 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, David T. via gnucash-devel
>> wrote:
>>
>> Odd. How would GnuCash access that on a different user login?
>>
>> Just for completeness, I checked in /Library/Preferences as well, but did
I would think the file would be generated for each user on first run, but John
will have to chime in for the definitive answer.
The main /Library/Preferences I think is ’supposed’ to be for the OS so I
wouldn’t expect to see it there. Though I see on mine I also have an entry for
my Brother
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:41 AM, David T. via gnucash-devel
> wrote:
>
> Odd. How would GnuCash access that on a different user login?
>
> Just for completeness, I checked in /Library/Preferences as well, but did not
> find org.gnucash.Gnucash.plist there.
>
It shouldn’t. Did you try
Odd. How would GnuCash access that on a different user login?
Just for completeness, I checked in /Library/Preferences as well, but did not
find org.gnucash.Gnucash.plist there.
David
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Adrien Monteleone
> wrote:
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>
/Users/you/Library/Preferences/org.gnucash.Gnucash.plist
Regards,
Adrien
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 10:17 AM, David T. wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Thanks for the detailed information; out of curiosity, where on a typical Mac
> filesystem will this setting be stored?
>
> David
>
>> On Sep 13, 2018, at
John,
Thanks for the detailed information; out of curiosity, where on a typical Mac
filesystem will this setting be stored?
David
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 10:36 AM, John Ralls wrote:
>
> Adrien,
>
> The new user dialog opens if there’s no file to open and a preference hasn’t
> been set;
Interesting. And good to know there is such guidance for new users on first run.
I got both mac and linux to fire the dialog with the --nofile option.
So a bug in gnc_get_file_to_load()?
Any trace or something else you need to see what it’s returning?
Regards,
Adrien
> On Sep 13, 2018, at
Adrien,
The new user dialog opens if there’s no file to open and a preference hasn’t
been set; running the dialog sets the preference. It offers to run the NAHSA,
the QIF import assistant, or to run a new user tutorial (which actually just
opens the T at the table of contents).
To see it on
Just tested in a Xubuntu 18.04 vm.
I got the tip of the day overlaid on the splash screen. I closed the tip
dialog, the splash screen disappeared and the main GnuCash window appeared.
It’s blank save for the menu and two buttons, one to save the current file and
one to close the currently
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> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:41:33 -0400
> Subject: Re:
Hello,
>
> Having raised yet another ruckus on the lists regarding documentation, I
> will back off
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:25 PM, Geert Janssens
> wrote:
>
> Op donderdag 13 september 2018 01:03:49 CEST schreef John Ralls:
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:00 PM, David T. via gnucash-devel
>>> wrote:
>> That said, I think the only immutable parameter in setting up a new book is
>> the root
There’s a “Welcome to GnuCash!” screen? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it. I’m
going to test in a vm and see what happens.
Regards,
Adrien
> On Sep 13, 2018, at 8:33 AM, David T. wrote:
>
> Adrien,
>
> I just tried using a new login on my Mac to run a newly-downloaded copy of
> GnuCash, and I
Adrien,
I just tried using a new login on my Mac to run a newly-downloaded copy of
GnuCash, and I also found myself staring at a blank screen after startup.
Having just worked on the documentation for the “Welcome to GnuCash!” screen, I
am curious to know *when* that screen actually runs?
I was going to mention this in my reply to David Cousens but didn’t want to
hijack the thread.
The greatest source of confusion I’ve seen from new users personally is the
blank screen you see on first run with no indication what to do next. (unless
this has changed with 3.x, I haven’t started
Hello,
Having raised yet another ruckus on the lists regarding documentation, I will
back off altogether, and work to write documentation on the assistant as it is,
taking care to balance the needs of the different user groups.
My only final comment is to note that it is unfortunate that this
David,
I agree on all points.
Regards,
Adrien
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:19 PM, David Cousens wrote:
>
> Adrien,
>
> While I agree with the concept David T is proposing to streamline the process
> for new users and the thrust of your
> comments about the new user experience, the new account
Op woensdag 12 september 2018 20:18:13 CEST schreef Mechtilde:
> I hope somtimes I can finish esp. the translation of the lasst chapters
> but I'm not willing to do a new translation as a whole. that is waste of
> time and motivation.
>
Mechtilde,
I share your concern about duplicating work.
Op donderdag 13 september 2018 01:03:49 CEST schreef John Ralls:
> That said, I think the only immutable parameter in setting up a new book is
> the root account currency, and that can be derived from the locale. How
> about renaming the NAHSA the "Advanced New Book Assistant" with its own
> menu
Op donderdag 13 september 2018 01:03:49 CEST schreef John Ralls:
> > On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:00 PM, David T. via gnucash-devel
> > wrote:
> That said, I think the only immutable parameter in setting up a new book is
> the root account currency, and that can be derived from the locale.
No, it
Hello DAvid t.
Am 13.09.18 um 00:00 schrieb David T.:
> Hello,
>
>
> Perhaps this is a reflection of the jurisdiction in which you live, but most
> users in the US setting up GnuCash for personal use
You don't know how many users use GnuCash for Personal use. You don't
know how many users
Am 13.09.2018 um 01:13 schrieb Graham Menhennitt:
> On 13/09/2018 9:03 am, John Ralls wrote:
>> ... have File>New just create a bare “Common Accounts” book for the
>> current locale? We could pop up a dialog for opening balances on each
>> of the bank accounts, cash-in-wallet, and the credit card.
On September 12, 2018, at 11:08 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>It’s not a bit disingenuous. Consider the millions of mostly satisfied Quicken
>users out there, some of whom wander our way and wonder why they should have
>to learn about accounting just to track their bank accounts. IMO most of them
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:18 PM, David T. wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:03 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>>
>> Most individuals who aren’t familiar with formal accounting should probably
>> be using something other than GnuCash. If all you want to do is keep track
>> of your credit card,
On Wed, 2018-09-12 at 10:38 -0400, David T. via gnucash-devel wrote:
> Hello,
>
> As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug
> 796855), I am working on the Help
> information regarding the New Account Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I
> have a couple of
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:03 PM, John Ralls wrote:
>
> Most individuals who aren’t familiar with formal accounting should probably
> be using something other than GnuCash. If all you want to do is keep track of
> your credit card, demand bank account (“checking account” for us fogies who
>
On 13/09/2018 9:03 am, John Ralls wrote:
... have File>New just create a bare “Common Accounts” book for the
current locale? We could pop up a dialog for opening balances on each
of the bank accounts, cash-in-wallet, and the credit card.
And that dialog could have an "Advanced settings"
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:00 PM, David T. via gnucash-devel
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I’d like to start by noting that this assistant is possibly one of the very
> first things a new user will encounter when they start GnuCash for the very
> first time, and it is this user upon which I am most
Hello,
I’d like to start by noting that this assistant is possibly one of the very
first things a new user will encounter when they start GnuCash for the very
first time, and it is this user upon which I am most focused.
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:31 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger
> wrote:
>
> Am
Am 12.09.2018 um 17:52 schrieb David T. via gnucash-devel:
> I understand this and agree. I fully expect that these options will be
> described within the Guide; my point is that the NAHS assistant presents
> options to new users that they are unlikely to comprehend and do not actually
> need
Mechtilde,
I think there are some misunderstandings here.
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 1:18 PM, Mechtilde wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> what is the problem of a program to have functions than you use.
>
> If you look into the German translation i use all functions that are
> translated and some few more
Hello,
what is the problem of a program to have functions than you use.
If you look into the German translation i use all functions that are
translated and some few more which have up to now no ducumentation and I
have no time to do it.
So we should first document functions wehre the
Op woensdag 12 september 2018 18:11:05 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> David,
>
> Maybe the place to discuss these settings *is* right up front when
> explaining the setup? (though I agree, the assistant itself should walk the
> user through the selection with more information)
>
Well, on that
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:19 AM, Geert Janssens
> wrote:
>
> Op woensdag 12 september 2018 16:38:42 CEST schreef David T. via gnucash-
> devel:
>> Hello,
>>
>> As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug
>> 796855), I am working on the Help information
Mechtilde,
> On Sep 12, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Mechtilde wrote:
>
> Hello David T.
>
> Am 12.09.18 um 16:38 schrieb David T. via gnucash-devel:
>> Hello,
>>
>> As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug
>> 796855), I am working on the Help information regarding
As someone who has helped other people get started using GnuCash (and
remembering my own first steps) I agree completely with these points. Those
book preferences are not self explanatory. (perhaps bugs in their own right) A
new user is left to either trust the defaults and move on, pause and
Hello David T.
Am 12.09.18 um 16:38 schrieb David T. via gnucash-devel:
> Hello,
>
> As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug
> 796855), I am working on the Help information regarding the New Account
> Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I have a couple of
Op woensdag 12 september 2018 16:38:42 CEST schreef David T. via gnucash-
devel:
> Hello,
>
> As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug
> 796855), I am working on the Help information regarding the New Account
> Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I have a
Hello,
As I begin the process of migrating text from the Help to the Guide (cf. Bug
796855), I am working on the Help information regarding the New Account
Hierarchy Setup (NAHS) assistant, and I have a couple of questions about the
second screen of the assistant, the “New Book Options”
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