Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-08 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 07/02/2018 09:45, Alen Siljak wrote: He he Thanks a lot for the tips. I'm in touch with Sebastien in order to polish the ledger export script. It is available either directly (pc-export has been renamed to export.py) or through piecash cli ("piecash ledger" is the command

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-07 Thread Alen Siljak
s is/not ok for this list. Cheers Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 at 7:00 AM From: Wm <wm_o_...@yahoo.co.uk> To: gnucash-de...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting P.S. I've just noticed MisterY alread

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-06 Thread Wm
On 06/02/2018 12:10, cicko wrote: GnuCash - Dev mailing list wrote for e.g. I am, at the moment, in the process of doing my multiple view portfolio analysis starting from https://www.ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Asset-Allocation which is more or less what envelope budgeting is plus a

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-06 Thread cicko
cicko wrote > A quick question, though - what do you guys use to have an up-to-date > records in ledger? How do you use (or export) GnuCash book into text files > appropriate for ledger? Looks good so far. At https://www.ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Major-Changes-from-version-2_002e6, a

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-06 Thread cicko
GnuCash - Dev mailing list wrote > for e.g. I am, at the moment, in the process of doing my multiple view > portfolio analysis starting from > > https://www.ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Asset-Allocation > > which is more or less what envelope budgeting is plus a bit. > > see > >

RE: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-04 Thread Matt Graham
ash-de...@lists.gnucash.org<mailto:gnucash-de...@lists.gnucash.org> Subject: Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting On 03/02/2018 00:12, Matt Graham wrote: > Wow! That become contentious quick!!! Only sort of. If you read the devel list before the user list you get a feeling

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-04 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 04/02/2018 13:44, Christopher Lam wrote: I wished to experiment in what budgeting should look like by using the existing engine, UI, and reporting infrastructure. If you want to know how one form of budgeting, that which includes envelope budgeting budgeting is likely to be implemented

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-04 Thread Christopher Lam
Hi Wm I wished to experiment in what budgeting should look like by using the existing engine, UI, and reporting infrastructure. It's actually not that difficult to create a 'budget balance calculator'; whether it meets the needs for everyone is another matter. But for people who wish to

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-04 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 03/02/2018 00:12, Matt Graham wrote: Wow! That become contentious quick!!! Only sort of. If you read the devel list before the user list you get a feeling for what isn't going to happen soon and why. The primary issue I’m seeing here is one of philosophy. What is GNUCash for? What is

RE: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-02 Thread Matt Graham
fundamental attitude to the project is wrong. Thanks and regards, Matt From: John Ralls<mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us> Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2018 3:51 AM Cc: gnucash-devel<mailto:gnucash-devel@gnucash.org> Subject: Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting > On Feb 2, 2018,

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-02 Thread John Ralls
> On Feb 2, 2018, at 7:25 AM, Wm via gnucash-devel > wrote: > > There is, IMO, work to be done on on the underlying db structure, have you > seen this monster ? > === > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/images/8/86/Gnucash_erd.png >

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 02/02/2018 08:17, Christopher Lam wrote: Dear Devs The more I consider (b)udget transactions the more I feel it is the right solution. See https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aaMoMVVTky_Df_haNAeVk3XpsgFIC7eMOOT7uurlV-s/edit?usp=sharing for an example of a report with these "b"udget

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 31/01/2018 20:18, Matt Graham wrote: Love the thoughts! Simplicity is king I think. I am going to ponder your idea for longer Chris.. It may be that there is a better way to structure budgeting in gnc, or as Adrian says maybe a new user interface is the better way to go. One thing on my

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-02 Thread Mike or Penny Novack
On 2/2/2018 7:04 AM, Wm via gnucash-devel wrote: On 31/01/2018 16:09, Christopher Lam wrote: Hi Matt- I thought this should move to the devel list, because of technical details, and this discussion will be very speculative. I had a thought about how envelope budgeting could work: "divide your

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-02 Thread Wm via gnucash-devel
On 31/01/2018 16:09, Christopher Lam wrote: Hi Matt- I thought this should move to the devel list, because of technical details, and this discussion will be very speculative. I had a thought about how envelope budgeting could work: "divide your paycheck into separate envelopes for different

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-02 Thread Christopher Lam
Dear Devs The more I consider (b)udget transactions the more I feel it is the right solution. See https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aaMoMVVTky_Df_haNAeVk3XpsgFIC7eMOOT7uurlV-s/edit?usp=sharing for an example of a report with these "b"udget and regular transactions. This demonstrates

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Feb 1, 2018, at 8:22 AM, Christopher Lam wrote: > > Hi Adrien, > > From reviewing the code, I still believe the (b)udget transactions system > works better. The current code calculates all Reconciled/Cleared/Unreconciled > balances on the fly, and it'll be

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-01 Thread Christopher Lam
Hi Adrien, From reviewing the code, I still believe the (b)udget transactions system works better. The current code calculates all Reconciled/Cleared/Unreconciled balances on the fly, and it'll be pretty easy to add one for Budget balances. If I'm right, a book with large number of

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-02-01 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:48 PM, Phil Longstaff wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Adrien Monteleone > > wrote: > > > > On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Christopher Lam

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-01-31 Thread Phil Longstaff
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Adrien Monteleone < adrien.montele...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Christopher Lam > wrote: > > > > Hi Matt- I thought this should move to the devel list, because of > technical details, and this discussion

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-01-31 Thread Matt Graham
(GMT+10:00) To: gnucash-de...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting > On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Christopher Lam <christopher@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Matt- I thought this should move to the devel list, because of technical > detail

Re: Future allocated money, aka Envelope Budgeting

2018-01-31 Thread Adrien Monteleone
> On Jan 31, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Christopher Lam > wrote: > > Hi Matt- I thought this should move to the devel list, because of technical > details, and this discussion will be very speculative. > > I had a thought about how envelope budgeting could work: "divide