Re: Keyserver spam example
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:16, expires2...@ymail.com said: delete them if they don't. Or one message to everybody with a customised subject line for each. Alternatively, those of us who are That is a good idea. I was thinking of bisecting the mailing list to make sure that test mails receive the culprit as actual mailing list posts. But lets try the simple solution first. fed up with the messages could simply filter them out ourselves. (-; That is actually much easier. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Test mail to arch...@mail-archive.com
Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner
Re: Crypto Stick released!
On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:58, jroll...@finestructure.net said: regards to the Crypto Stick? Is that something that can be patched, or is it a limitation of the communication protocol? Right that is a limitation of an internal communication protocol. Not hard to change but there are more important things to be done. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Importing private key from key server
Greetings friends! I have this issue with which I want your help. Recently I installed Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 x64 on my laptop and as usual copied my .gnupg folder from my backup hard disk to my home directory. All my key configuration was back. Then I created a new key for my another email address and synced with key servers. I, then had to re-install Ubuntu again and alas! I forget to backup my .gnupg folder. Now my new key is on key servers and I want to import it but every time I import it, it is imported in public keys section. Is there any way that I can import that key to my private keys? -- Best Regards:- Manpreet S. Dhillon, ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to richih.mailingl...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 09:39, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org wrote: Sorry for the inconvenience, No problem. It's not me :) Richard ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to stuffcor...@archlinux.us
On 11 Jun 2010 09:39 +0200, Werner Koch: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner Hi, how can I convince you that I was not the culprit? -- Rick ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
FYI: About my test mails
Hi, a few hours ago I sent test mails to each subscribed user. The mails should look like regular mailing list mail but with your address also in the subject. This is a try to figure out who forwards postings to an automated systems which in turn spams the original poster. Please ignore these mails - there is no need to respond. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Crypto Stick released!
Any news about V2 ? Thanks AA On 11 June 2010 10:33, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org wrote: On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:58, jroll...@finestructure.net said: regards to the Crypto Stick? Is that something that can be patched, or is it a limitation of the communication protocol? Right that is a limitation of an internal communication protocol. Not hard to change but there are more important things to be done. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to erwin...@dds.nl
On Friday 11 June 2010 09:37:23 Werner Koch wrote: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner No problem. -- Erwin Lam (erwin...@dds.nl) ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to gnupg.u...@seibercom.net
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:37:34 +0200 Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org articulated: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner I am assuming that you wanted me to reply to this message. Its intended purpose was not overly clear. At least not to me, but then again I have not had my second cup of coffee this morning. -- Jerry gnupg.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ As you grow older, you will still do foolish things, but you will do them with much more enthusiasm. The Cowboy signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: FYI: About my test mails
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:15, w...@gnupg.org said: the subject. This is a try to figure out who forwards postings to an automated systems which in turn spams the original poster. The culprit was supp...@resell.biz - I unsubscribed this address and banned it from further subscriptions. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to gnupg.u...@seibercom.net
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:27:12 -0400, Jerry gnupg.u...@seibercom.net wrote: I am assuming that you wanted me to reply to this message. Its intended purpose was not overly clear. At least not to me, but then again I have not had my second cup of coffee this morning. I think if he had wanted you to respond to it he would have asked you to respond to it. jamie. pgpzBRIvtD0Pu.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to gnupg.u...@seibercom.net
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 07:33:23 -0400 Jameson Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net articulated: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 06:27:12 -0400, Jerry gnupg.u...@seibercom.net wrote: I am assuming that you wanted me to reply to this message. Its intended purpose was not overly clear. At least not to me, but then again I have not had my second cup of coffee this morning. I think if he had wanted you to respond to it he would have asked you to respond to it. Perhaps, then again, perhaps not. As a lifelong sports official, everything is considered legal unless specifically barred by a formal rule. In any case, I am not the only subscriber who replied to his post. I was simply following the lead of other responders before me. Which reminds me; there is a request at the end of every post I make. Would it be to much of an imposition for you to honor that request? -- Jerry gnupg.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history. Dan Quayle US Republican politician (1947 - ) signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to satish.alr...@gmail.com
Email received correctly On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org wrote: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner -- Satish Ph: (704) 464 0160 (Home) ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:15:56 +0200 Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org articulated: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:16, expires2...@ymail.com said: delete them if they don't. Or one message to everybody with a customised subject line for each. Alternatively, those of us who are That is a good idea. I was thinking of bisecting the mailing list to make sure that test mails receive the culprit as actual mailing list posts. But lets try the simple solution first. fed up with the messages could simply filter them out ourselves. (-; That is actually much easier. The FreeBSD mailing lists are also getting hammered with this crap. Someone has a seriously warped sense of humor. You might want to check this out: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-June/217498.html -- Jerry gnupg.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history. Dan Quayle US Republican politician (1947 - ) signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to kevhil...@gmail.com
Not sure who that was but I was not responsible On Jun 11, 2010 4:26 AM, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org wrote: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to gnupg.u...@seibercom.net
Jerry wrote (in part): Which reminds me; there is a request at the end of every post I make. Would it be to much of an imposition for you to honor that request? Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. I looked at the headers, and there is no Reply-To header in the e-mail I received from the list. An entire page of headers, but not that one. Even if Reply-To was a header, it would be too much to honor it unless my e-mailer honored it automatically (perhaps it does). Because some lists to which I subscribe automatically reply to the lists, and some automatically reply to the original sender, and I cannot remember which is which. I know asking any particular list to change is not worth the trouble; each list has its own policy and unwilling to change. I try to remember which is which. It is sometimes suggested to hit Reply-All, but this results in the original poster's getting two replies. I particularly hate this method as I then reply to which ever one I get first, usually direct to the author, thinking he wants a private reply since he sent it to me privately. Then a little later I get one from the list, and it is usually too much trouble to send another reply to the list. I wish all lists were set up so a reply to a message from the list went back to the list, but there is no point asking that from a list that does things another way. -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 08:05:01 up 35 days, 16:00, 3 users, load average: 4.46, 4.45, 4.45 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to jcr...@gmail.com
__ Chris Ruff email: jcr...@gmail.com gpg key: 0x052A4FAD gpg fgpr: 6530 8DA8 805C 707F 3611 9851 D057 FC41 052A 4FAD On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:37, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org wrote: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner Good luck with the search! ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. Therefore they can not be considered valid. If there is such an RFC, it's rubbish; I run an MTA at home on my dynamic address, and it works just fine, and is quite valid. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead System Programmer mw...@iupui.edu Balance your desire for bells and whistles with the reality that only a little more than 2 percent of world population has broadband. -- Ledford and Tyler, _Google Analytics 2.0_ pgppY2M3C6DJm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to cw...@copper.net
working here On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 09:37 +0200, Werner Koch wrote: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 4:39:46 PM, in mid:201006101739.46469.mailinglis...@hauke-laging.de, Hauke Laging wrote: But that is the wrong argument. The correct argument is about the key server share of spam in a world in which nearly everyone has a public key. Of course, in that world signatures may be used to prevent spam. So the problem is mainly the mean time. Another solution would be hashing the email address in a key's user-id, so that somebody knowing the address could find the key on the server, but the keyserver didn't publicly list the address. I just noticed you advocate this further on in your message (-; If you have an email address then you get spam. That is a reliable rule. But people cannot decide not to have an email address, that is virtually impossible. They could always use disposable email addresses, or use a different address for communication with each contact. But people CAN decide not to have a public key (on key servers). They can also choose to publish a key but not to include their email address in any of the user-ids. This makes the key pretty much impossible to find without the key-id. Unfortunately it also confuses some email clients, and has web-of-trust implications (because many people are unwilling to sign a key that shows no email address). - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTBJgG6ipC46tDG5pAQoahgP/TTRLw5Wq14HwzaZ7E9mtIGj4CrYYpJ2P E6qDpUkvHDjuprYbdiyiGFPmZsZGf7fdGXMGCy5Ym3mA0a3eVzaHHUOjS4FP/Cih J3fQSpIOYwlwmPYbweEQij6jQY5c7RO3FwpETat5cO4ChqeKNyk951gLJ2qoEpSe ZGwG7oGXVDA= =xcKY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
Mark H. Wood wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. Therefore they can not be considered valid. If there is such an RFC, it's rubbish; I run an MTA at home on my dynamic address, and it works just fine, and is quite valid. EXACTLY what Mark said, RUBBISH MTA and keyserver here. My home ISP blesses me with a new address about once every six months. Router automagically updates my DNS provider and everything is good to go. Cite the RFC, please. -- John P. Clizbe Inet:John (a) Mozilla-Enigmail.org You can't spell fiasco without SCO. hkp://keyserver.gingerbear.net or mailto:pgp-public-k...@gingerbear.net?subject=help Q:Just how do the residents of Haiku, Hawai'i hold conversations? A:An odd melody / island voices on the winds / surplus of vowels signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Thursday 10 June 2010 at 4:53:43 PM, in mid:87bpbivq7s@servo.finestructure.net, Jameson Rollins wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:32:05 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote: And i should probably add that it is indeed an infinitesimal drop in the bucket compared to the other spam i receive; i'm not concerned about it. Not to mention that the bother of a couple of extra spams is completely dwarfed by the benefit of having the public keyserver network. This is true, but it would be perfectly feasible to have a working network of public keyservers that did not reveal email addresses. User IDs could contain a hash of the email address. Applications querying the keyservers could query for the hashed email address. Privacy would be the main advantage to such a system; eliminating the possibility of keyserver spam is a positive side-effect. - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Can you imagine a world with no hypothetical situations? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTBJjEaipC46tDG5pAQqa8AQAk1AYt5BJlQ+WJFTz2aysR8SK6DbD0jjR HkQVxuogazcvNFpeb/I8NH4HmC8LS6U+FTGEK2zc9e+lfwYaUiEwUaBlGj5rI9mN jnW3Txo01I161mM0jQVKyLG3YFhv+GIUNCPFyhLyd8wO7rt6fUnDzX65Qjv06BS9 Cyz7lT37eOM= =fJHN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: FYI: About my test mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/06/2010 11:15, Werner Koch wrote: Hi, a few hours ago I sent test mails to each subscribed user. The mails should look like regular mailing list mail but with your address also in the subject. This is a try to figure out who forwards postings to an automated systems which in turn spams the original poster. Please ignore these mails - there is no need to respond. Amd ignore my direct reply to you, watching World Cup and a few beers :) Sean - -- GSWoT and CaCert WOT Assurer http://www.google.com/profiles/thecivvie .tel http://rima.tel/ I believe that every human has a finite number of heartbeats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises. - Neil Armstrong -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Gossamer Spider Web of Trust: http://www.gswot.org Comment: Contact Details http://rima.tel Comment: My GPG Key http://thecivvie.fastmail.fm/sean.pubkey.txt iHIEAREIADIFAkwSWAsrFIAAFQANcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3Jnc2Vh bkBzcmltYS5ldQAKCRDJ1+LfaIt9mOXrAKC1SsJxI2RhyAYw/GeOjtBORY5W2wCg oQerptT4iVwM/XEt463Q+VwCpeI= =IjXf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to gnupg.u...@seibercom.net
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:14:29 -0400 Jean-David Beyer jeandav...@verizon.net articulated: Jerry wrote (in part): Which reminds me; there is a request at the end of every post I make. Would it be to much of an imposition for you to honor that request? Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. I looked at the headers, and there is no Reply-To header in the e-mail I received from the list. An entire page of headers, but not that one. Even if Reply-To was a header, it would be too much to honor it unless my e-mailer honored it automatically (perhaps it does). Because some lists to which I subscribe automatically reply to the lists, and some automatically reply to the original sender, and I cannot remember which is which. I know asking any particular list to change is not worth the trouble; each list has its own policy and unwilling to change. I try to remember which is which. It is sometimes suggested to hit Reply-All, but this results in the original poster's getting two replies. I particularly hate this method as I then reply to which ever one I get first, usually direct to the author, thinking he wants a private reply since he sent it to me privately. Then a little later I get one from the list, and it is usually too much trouble to send another reply to the list. I wish all lists were set up so a reply to a message from the list went back to the list, but there is no point asking that from a list that does things another way. Evidently, the list manager employed here strips off any Reply-To: header and then fails to replace it with one that points to the list. Fortunately, not all mailing lists are configured in a similar manner. Fortunately, using claws-mail, I am able to circumvent that problem (in most cases). I would assume that other MUAs would have a similar configuration option. -- Jerry gnupg.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ That's always the way when you discover something new; everyone thinks you're crazy. Evelyn E. Smith signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to gnupg.u...@seibercom.net
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Friday 11 June 2010 at 4:36:34 PM, in mid:2010063634.5f83c...@scorpio, Jerry wrote: Evidently, the list manager employed here strips off any Reply-To: header and then fails to replace it with one that points to the list. Fortunately, not all mailing lists are configured in a similar manner. Fortunately, using claws-mail, I am able to circumvent that problem (in most cases). I would assume that other MUAs would have a similar configuration option. I was told the etiquette for this list was to reply to the list and also cc your reply to the person whose message you are replying to. So I set up my reply template to do just that. (-; - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com During an eruption - move away from the volcano - not towards it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTBJqXqipC46tDG5pAQrlEgP/WIEi22+pknXDqNYivuu8RyTJFt5P6Joj esMhouJwbPm+64aPTZscypQRPZIbXSIASh6eoVyAPWk8Cafi+C/84n66EiL3+ubZ v3UeYlZg+bX22ahkBIsoZakI6FdKui9cHxhbI8oNi4AvN/cLvNBMujHCkKm9V3rJ zkJDpQUDJHY= =xGOI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Importing private key from key server
On Jun 11, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Manpreet Singh Dhillon wrote: Greetings friends! I have this issue with which I want your help. Recently I installed Ubuntu Lucid Lynx 10.04 x64 on my laptop and as usual copied my .gnupg folder from my backup hard disk to my home directory. All my key configuration was back. Then I created a new key for my another email address and synced with key servers. I, then had to re-install Ubuntu again and alas! I forget to backup my .gnupg folder. Now my new key is on key servers and I want to import it but every time I import it, it is imported in public keys section. Is there any way that I can import that key to my private keys? Sorry, no. Keyservers only store public keys. Even if you somehow managed to manipulate things to get that key onto your private keyring it would still be a public key and not contain the private data. David ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:18:05 -0500 John Clizbe j...@mozilla-enigmail.org articulated: Mark H. Wood wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. Therefore they can not be considered valid. If there is such an RFC, it's rubbish; I run an MTA at home on my dynamic address, and it works just fine, and is quite valid. EXACTLY what Mark said, RUBBISH MTA and keyserver here. My home ISP blesses me with a new address about once every six months. Router automagically updates my DNS provider and everything is good to go. Cite the RFC, please. The Spamhaus PBL might very well list you. 76.185.38.113 is listed in the PBL Mailservers using this blocklist would probably block mail from you. Obtaining a static IP is easily done so I don't know why someone would want to risk using a dynamic IP. In any case, a very large percentage of SPAM originates from dynamic IPs, which is why I routinely block them. -- Jerry gnupg.u...@seibercom.net Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __ He's just a politician trying to save both his faces... signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to faramir...@gmail.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Werner Koch escribió: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Don't worry, but I hope you didn't have to send these test messages manually, I'd bet there are a lot of subscribers in the list... Best Regards -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJMEpJrAAoJEMV4f6PvczxA4Z4IAKEdeJjvelQB3hBX+RW5BLdY wg2cKh1wcZHTMvZxuj8p7Ln0MpOEtp3oRFu6Hql45exg2TDjTym9NtJSzDZRk42c xftXW6iW70EZhoWDvMuRGq+p5bpB4arwCUvnudLD8+9MR6V/qVfmL0Bta2CrXOeb u/2T/7eQ+k9nNzHqC+UNwII5/YzPn3B4dx44aVYgCn8aJ1j/j1t1Ugj/DEHEhPox Jt8bQm5cBxsOJ+GcjKPYi/17MnFQOE817M0NQ9WcLlsvl4Nk3KauFU0vCAwZQuQZ +ihZ2VsoDYCTyloVCQQ3k/g4GRJxV2OHHQTZDhBaQMAMTBu3991XcVpLgwZELOQ= =A8Uh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Mailing list etiquette
On 06/11/10 04:55, Jerry wrote: Which reminds me; there is a request at the end of every post I make. Would it be to much of an imposition for you to honor that request? In a word, yes. The Internet's Robustness Principle says, Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in what you send. In other words, if you have preferences on how you deal with local mail, deal with them locally. Asking everyone on the Internet to adapt their way of working in order to fit your personal preferences is, in the politest possible terms, absurd. Doug -- ... and that's just a little bit of history repeating. -- Propellerheads Improve the effectiveness of your Internet presence with a domain name makeover!http://SupersetSolutions.com/ ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: FYI: About my test mails
On 11 June 2010 12:42, Werner Koch w...@gnupg.org wrote: The culprit was supp...@resell.biz - I unsubscribed this address and banned it from further subscriptions. Did alava...@gmail.com ever get removed? See http://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-users/2010-May/038724.html Ben ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to gnupg.user
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 my e-mailer honored it automatically (perhaps it does). Because some lists to which I subscribe automatically reply to the lists, and some automatically reply to the original sender, and I cannot remember which is which. I know asking any particular list to change is not worth the trouble; each list has its own policy and unwilling to change. I try to remember which is which. It is sometimes suggested to hit Reply-All, but this results in the original poster's getting two replies. I To handle this issue I added the reply to list button to Thunderbird. Whenever I deal with a list, I hit that button. I added it through the right click customize menu and drug the button to my toolbar. ___ Sonja Michelle Lina Thomas so...@sdf.lonestar.org Oregano - The ancient art of pizza folding. On 6/11/2010 7:14, Jean-David Beyer wrote: Jerry wrote (in part): Which reminds me; there is a request at the end of every post I make. Would it be to much of an imposition for you to honor that request? Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. I looked at the headers, and there is no Reply-To header in the e-mail I received from the list. An entire page of headers, but not that one. Even if Reply-To was a header, it would be too much to honor it unless my e-mailer honored it automatically (perhaps it does). Because some lists to which I subscribe automatically reply to the lists, and some automatically reply to the original sender, and I cannot remember which is which. I know asking any particular list to change is not worth the trouble; each list has its own policy and unwilling to change. I try to remember which is which. It is sometimes suggested to hit Reply-All, but this results in the original poster's getting two replies. I particularly hate this method as I then reply to which ever one I get first, usually direct to the author, thinking he wants a private reply since he sent it to me privately. Then a little later I get one from the list, and it is usually too much trouble to send another reply to the list. I wish all lists were set up so a reply to a message from the list went back to the list, but there is no point asking that from a list that does things another way. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJMEj4KAAoJEI+f8geCGt+F6NEP/22fQL36IyOGYgYUrxkLoLvf IxUr8VqugsJAelv6cs8JsdsXCWHlaPZsBWs7JLW9qbNc/bBN2n6hSPKNxgF0e8Pi V9mN7qwzwe73AXKAb4sT1OIAiDh8sLx1y9jOLttHi4k4Gpt2oSTyDLXGMrXsNylP gkKfBl0xZQls5qir2uGC2hMgHlB2wQiqNkJp5QtQxEul5eRxxHcjqox1pdvnyfWP 5TH6+3YsysKI70GpM8rYtZHiZg0at+8yRCwYFG/Vh0r+D3drnwguYG4ZgAY0ICyQ qWiHSY8nBN0FlTRdvqKaD6lhQQnrTAsZxgakz31/dQHKO1APXStq5KX+8T/q5xUz y2uIHI3OGXa9yJej8Juz/6uqwSik7k4h7e8MIrIyRoKGlaF4/Z3QQ+Up8qX9GgUF nSRwBCLtwAwQyUA6qRbUSO2fXyBJMjHIT9NcUa5FDMIKLrRMOOOp1MVRXrUIW1YP G19FfLyTOXlvZdCKVcGckTvu4eD+56Msuy1vNpVczuzEVw48lCNfKZFLCRc6gdg2 x6yKGJiOCXf0LDdRnTMewIC3k9t/MMu11VTa07rFc8E9jF4b6K/bUqqReY2laGMr RkL5kyNBUyCSX7oIV6J8qsaBwJ8ZyIO+Gm9ySuX8meT4sm+4UYvnss/6VTC6ai45 cfVxblFoNOhPpxFAnhe3 =/vF1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 100611-0, 06/11/2010 Tested on: 6/11/2010 8:45:48 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2010 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Friday 11 June 2010 at 8:00:09 PM, in mid:20100611150009.2719a...@scorpio, Jerry wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:18:05 -0500 John Clizbe j...@mozilla-enigmail.org articulated: Mark H. Wood wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 05:57:50PM +0200, Joke de Buhr wrote: You do not sacrifice legitimate incoming mail because there is an RFC that clearly states mailservers do not operate from dynamic IP addresses. Therefore they can not be considered valid. If there is such an RFC, it's rubbish; I run an MTA at home on my dynamic address, and it works just fine, and is quite valid. EXACTLY what Mark said, RUBBISH MTA and keyserver here. My home ISP blesses me with a new address about once every six months. Router automagically updates my DNS provider and everything is good to go. Cite the RFC, please. The Spamhaus PBL might very well list you. 76.185.38.113 is listed in the PBL Mailservers using this blocklist would probably block mail from you. Of course, even Spamhaus's own website says the PBL is not a blacklist and that you can remove your IP address from their list if you are running a legitimate mail server, but only if it's a static Ip address. They provide no definition (that I can find) of what constitutes a legitimate mail server Obtaining a static IP is easily done so I don't know why someone would want to risk using a dynamic IP. Most ISPs I have seen charge considerably more for a static IP address; generally, commercial prices rather than home-user or small-business prices. Unless you have relatively high bandwidth requirements there is no point. It is *definitely* not worth the expense just just to avoid an occasional over-zealous mailserver admin spuriously binning one of your perfectly valid email messages. Even if you are hosting a website or an incoming mail server, there are plenty of dynamic DNS services available for many times less cost than having a static IP address. In any case, a very large percentage of SPAM originates from dynamic IPs, which is why I routinely block them. A large percentage of spam originates from the USA. It would be just as rational to block mail from all IP addresses that are listed as being there. (-; - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com When you're caffeinated, all is right with the world -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTBLkkqipC46tDG5pAQofMwQAsQ1jBmTKmHpSb3ceh+HI8AS/llmkmIog MDzllKUmqFSi5gDU/TGtsi2A+cCYY+1k2ENxqc96iurWCn4pJ0pcT3nrkteRF6hp sBMVFuN5fGWej1mrBCDmXsIXK18X/+fwsL9hZ74mcpkF66EbIp1GgBdHahpMN+S2 3y+zc9ReI3w= =3ou2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Keyserver spam example
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi On Friday 11 June 2010 at 2:34:44 PM, in mid:20100611133444.gc2...@iupui.edu, Mark H. Wood wrote: If there is such an RFC, it's rubbish; I think there is no such RFC, just an assertion from a messaging industry lobbying group that it's the best practice to block mail from people who don't do things their way. The whole idea looks suspiciously like it's designed to coerce people into abandoning simple, cheap/free home brew solutions and purchasing services from maawg members. http://www.maawg.org/ - -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQCVAwUBTBLq+6ipC46tDG5pAQoPtAP+NX96NgREM+mcniCHAWW2S7T9FZNKEOD9 O4zTZXrv5+pZWgL5P6TMhGQwPWusmmW1P3pNE8oKC9tcJxY1BKGanKnWUyrRISmA aybh5WqZoidm8DL/oQUyaA1tQslCyqVX/n0Ofu1CAxPehp8jafSDD3dYExm+tN15 ydTfQ1cRwsQ= =ALda -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
Re: Test mail to shadowe...@gmail.com
On 6/11/2010 12:39 AM, Werner Koch wrote: Hi! One of the subscribers to this list created a mail forward to an automated ticketing system which responds to the the poster. The owner of the ticketing system at secure.mpcustomer.com does not respond to any of our queries to send us more information on the mails triggering the posting. Thus we need to send these test mails in the hope to figure out the culprit. Sorry for the inconvenience, Werner Not me - hope you find who you are looking for. ___ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
