Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-27 Thread Joel C. Ewing
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 6:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO? McKown, Johnjohn.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-27 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:31:49 -0600, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote: Having the message ID on each line would seem to me a lot of unnecessary visual clutter and non-informational bytes to record. Are there any cases where the mechanisms for recording syslog data don't result in all lines

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-27 Thread Shane
Can't say I noticed this improvement, but as Joel noted, the problem tended to be intermittent. Good to see another wrinkle ironed out. Shane ... On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:01:38 -0600 W. Kevin Kelley wrote: With the Console Restructure, connecting multi-line messages are buffered in a data

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-26 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 08:28:51 -0500, John P. Baker john.ba...@hfdtechs.com wrote: John, A lot of the messages that use different message ids are setup to display the various messages conditionally and construct the WTO parameter list dynamically. Philosophically, I think that the approach that

Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread McKown, John
I have no life. That's why I'm working from home on the major holiday here in the U.S. But I have noticed that some multiple line WTO messages repeat the message id at the start of every line of the message, such as DFHSM's ARC0833I message, whereas other, such as IEC205I, do not have any

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote in message news:a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e05...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom. .. I have no life. That's why I'm working from home on the major holiday here in the U.S. But I have noticed that some multiple line WTO messages repeat the

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread McKown, John
and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 6:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread McKown, John
Re: the OPERLOG. Unless I totally misunderstood, a DASD logstream cannot be shared between multiple systems. And it does not appear to me that I can make a system unique OPERLOG, one for each system. So I can't use an OPERLOG at all without a Coupling Facility and a parallel sysplex.

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread John P. Baker
guide. John P. Baker Chief Software Architect HFD Technologies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 7:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Philosophy question: repeat message ID

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 11/25/2010 7:35 AM, McKown, John wrote: Sorry, I was just curious about whether people thought having a message id on each line of the message would be useful. Who knows, someday I may have such a need and I'd like to have a good idea what would be useful for others. I am not suggesting that