Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-04 Thread Garth Corral
On Apr 4, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Bob Gustafson bob...@rcn.com wrote: Testing report on this nightly build: Application: kicad Version: (2015-04-03 BZR 5572)-product Release build wxWidgets: Version 3.0.2 (debug,UTF-8,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.2.1,STL containers,compatible with 2.8)

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-04 Thread Bob Gustafson
Testing report on this nightly build: Application: kicad Version: (2015-04-03 BZR 5572)-product Release build wxWidgets: Version 3.0.2 (debug,UTF-8,compiler with C++ ABI 1002,GCC 4.2.1,STL containers,compatible with 2.8) Platform: Mac OS X (Darwin 14.1.0 x86_64), 64 bit, Little endian, wxMac

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-04 Thread Adam Wolf
Hi all, I haven't added any trackpad stuff to any of the nightlies, so this is just the regular Python nightly. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer WL On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Bob Gustafson bob...@rcn.com wrote: Testing report on this nightly build: Application: kicad Version:

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-03 Thread Nick Østergaard
Hi Garth Please try out the new build I have made. It is made against your branch, hence the lower revision number. http://www2.futureware.at/~nickoe/kicad-osx-trackpad-gestures-r5277.5c2b56a-i686.exe Nick P.S. you sent this only to me, but I think it contain way too much information to miss

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-03 Thread Nick Østergaard
2015-04-02 20:57 GMT+02:00 Garth Corral gcor...@abode.com: Thanks, Nick. If you can point me to a build of this I will do what I can to look into the issues reported by Wayne. Next week will be very difficult for me to do this but I’ll try to get to it the following week. Just to clarify,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-03 Thread Garth Corral
Got it. Thanks. Garth On Apr 3, 2015, at 5:19 AM, Nick Østergaard oe.n...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Garth Please try out the new build I have made. It is made against your branch, hence the lower revision number.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Gustafson
Super - I will go out and get a standard PC logitech mouse. According to the reports on the 5k iMac, you have 14.7 million pixels with a resolution of 5,120x2,880 - very impressive. Bandwidth to the screen is beyond Thunderbolt 2, so no wonder you have some slowness moving pixels. There

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Piotr Esden-Tempski
On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch wrote: On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: Hi Maciek, I just tested it a bit more. The behaviour of the ratsnest is a bit confusing here. Let me describe it with the steps I took and what I observed.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Andy Peters
On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:20 PM, Piotr Esden-Tempski pi...@esden.net wrote: On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Piotr Esden-Tempski pi...@esden.net wrote: On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch wrote: On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: Hi Maciek,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Gustafson
mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems Super - I will go out and get a standard PC logitech mouse. According to the reports on the 5k iMac, you have 14.7 million pixels with a resolution of 5,120x2,880 - very impressive. Bandwidth

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Piotr Esden-Tempski
Cc: Adam Wolf adamw...@feelslikeburning.com mailto:adamw...@feelslikeburning.com, kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net mailto:kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Piotr Esden-Tempski
On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Piotr Esden-Tempski pi...@esden.net wrote: On Apr 2, 2015, at 12:45 PM, Tomasz Wlostowski tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch mailto:tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch wrote: On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: Hi Maciek, I just tested it a bit more. The

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 02.04.2015 21:17, Piotr Esden-Tempski wrote: Hi Maciek, I just tested it a bit more. The behaviour of the ratsnest is a bit confusing here. Let me describe it with the steps I took and what I observed. These are steps on a completely new pcb. * open pcbnew (leave in default mode) *

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Nick Østergaard
Come on, this is an issue that has always existed in GAL as far as I can remember. A bug has recently been reported on this on a workaround. I hope this can see be resolved. This happens also on linux. https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1438406 2015-04-02 22:16 GMT+02:00 Piotr Esden-Tempski

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Gustafson
I have OSX and Linux (Fedora21) development environments, but no Windows. My luck at generating fully operational OSX binaries is spotty - perhaps due to multiple boost libraries (still working this out). As I recall, I did merge your trackpad branch with the then current head and I think I did

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Gustafson
Super - will look for them Bob G On 04/02/2015 12:31 PM, Adam Wolf wrote: I will work hard on getting nightlies with the trackpad patch applied, in the DEBUG/trackpad/ directory. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer WL On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Bob Gustafson bob...@rcn.com

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Piotr Esden-Tempski
Hi Maciek, I just tested it a bit more. The behaviour of the ratsnest is a bit confusing here. Let me describe it with the steps I took and what I observed. These are steps on a completely new pcb. * open pcbnew (leave in default mode) * Read netlist * Spread out All Footprints (Ratsnest

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Maciej Sumiński
On 04/02/2015 04:05 PM, Andy Peters wrote: [... I also have the GAL rats-nest issue Piotr mentions. Does it mean it is never visible? Even when you are dragging components? Are there OS X users for whom it works properly? Regards, Orson signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
On 02.04.2015 11:01, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: For me, this is still the reason why KiCad without Garths panning patches is just a no-go on OSX. Adam, Wayne, I guess there's no problem with merging these patches to the Mac stable release, especially since we need to build a patched wxWidgets

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Adam Wolf
I had personally been wondering when GAL mode would support a ratsnest, so I have a feeling it is across the board for OS X :) Adam Wolf On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Maciej Sumiński maciej.sumin...@cern.ch wrote: On 04/02/2015 04:05 PM, Andy Peters wrote: [... I also have the GAL

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Adam Wolf
I don't want to make that choice. I will leave that up to Wayne. I will support making builds of whatever he chooses. Adam Wolf On Apr 2, 2015 9:31 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski tomasz.wlostow...@cern.ch wrote: On 02.04.2015 11:01, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: For me, this is still the reason why

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
I've commented on this before. It breaks zoom and pan behavior on windows and linux so it cannot be committed until it is fixed. I don't have an issue with providing nightly osx builds for users to test but I would tread carefully here. It seems that some osx users are using alternate pointing

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Nick Østergaard
Otherwise you might want to make a build and put it into the DEBUG folder for testing. Den 02/04/2015 15.34 skrev Adam Wolf adamw...@feelslikeburning.com: I don't want to make that choice. I will leave that up to Wayne. I will support making builds of whatever he chooses. Adam Wolf On Apr

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Adam Wolf
I have a DEBUG/ folder in the nightlies directory for bugfix-confirmation builds. I'll take a look at doing the wrapper, but unfortunately it's toward the bottom of my list, until the stables get closer. If anyone else wants to work on this, feel free! :) Adam Wolf On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:54

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Andy Peters
On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski pi...@esden.net wrote: Hi everyone, I am using a 5k IMac with a standard PC logitech mouse. I have the nightly build 5547 installed. I do not experience any problems with zooming in GAL. (Besides the already reported bug with the F2

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Gustafson
On 04/02/2015 09:05 AM, Andy Peters wrote: On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Piotr Esden-Tempski pi...@esden.net wrote: Hi everyone, I am using a 5k IMac with a standard PC logitech mouse. I have the nightly build 5547 installed. I do not experience any problems with zooming in GAL. (Besides the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Gustafson
Thanks very much for your comments. At least I don't feel so alone. Best regards - Bob G On 04/02/2015 04:01 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier wrote: Up to now I also didn’t find any way to have a “middle button” with only Apple gear (there seem to be some tools for simulating, but I didn’t try them

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Adam Wolf
I will work hard on getting nightlies with the trackpad patch applied, in the DEBUG/trackpad/ directory. Adam Wolf Cofounder and Engineer WL On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Bob Gustafson bob...@rcn.com wrote: On 04/02/2015 09:05 AM, Andy Peters wrote: On Apr 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, Piotr

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-02 Thread Bob Gustafson
I haven't noticed it, but my pcbnew designs still have only 3 wires.. Bob G On 04/02/2015 09:43 AM, Maciej Sumiński wrote: On 04/02/2015 04:05 PM, Andy Peters wrote: [... I also have the GAL rats-nest issue Piotr mentions. Does it mean it is never visible? Even when you are dragging

Re: [Kicad-developers] Bob's Mac Usability Problems

2015-04-01 Thread Bob Gustafson
On Apr 1, 2015, at 14:10, Adam Wolf adamw...@feelslikeburning.com wrote: Hi folks, I'm making this thread so Bob has a place to bring up his usability problems. I have a hard time following the mailing list when threads diverge, and making multiple threads really helps me out. Adam Wolf