Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406 Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/6/30 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406 And if you bother doing it - consider using all the maximum of 20 votes you can put on each single bug. --Amos

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/6/30 Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406 And if you bother doing it - consider using all the maximum of 20 votes you can put on each single bug. --Amos

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406 What bothers me about this bug description is that you use the word alignment, and that really has nothing to do with the problem at hand,

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/30 Herouth Maoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406 What bothers me about this bug description is that you use the word alignment, and that really has

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Herouth Maoz wrote: Quoting Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165406 What bothers me about this bug description is that you use the word alignment, and that really has nothing to do with the

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hi Dotan, I have seen you bug sprint this week, don't worry :) However, bug 165406 talks about input controls,which in Qt4 do not have automatic direction detection. IMHO, this is a non important bug compared to 163459 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163459 This one renderes Plasma

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/30 Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My suggestion? Nag the distributions. They have resources (=developers) which can be spent in this subject, they can really make a difference. So far, none of the distros are paying for a developer in the RTL/BiDI field - and this is why KDE4 and

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/30 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What bothers me even more is that this is just KDE working as it should. The bug is in kate and the rest of the programs that decided not to have bidi support. There is NO way to provide a generic solution to this problem at the toolkit level.

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What bothers me even more is that this is just KDE working as it should. The bug is in kate and the rest of the programs that decided not to have bidi support. There is NO way to provide a generic solution to this problem at the toolkit level. Why? A

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Cohen wrote: At what level do you suggest that the directionality shortcut be added to KDE apps, as is the case in Mozilla apps? I will file a bug at the place that you suggest, Shachar. Thanks. Directionality is meaningless unless the application stores it somehow. This means that the

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Herouth Maoz wrote: Or am I missing something here? How will you supply round trip preservation of directionality (running program - disk - running program) if the application is unaware of the directionality? Shachar = To

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Cohen wrote: I put it there to parse incorrectly-encoded replies on mailing lists, which helps me refine the http://gibberish.co.il website. Love it! It's gibberish cookies encoding Not the most polite of things to do, but still brilliant. Shachar

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Herouth Maoz wrote: Or am I missing something here? How will you supply round trip preservation of directionality (running program - disk - running program) if the application is unaware of the directionality? That's not the purpose here, and

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/30 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: P.s. Herouth is her first name Sorry, I did not even recognize that as a Hebrew name until not. The o and the h confused me into not recognizing it. Anyway, I'm sure in the army she was called Maoz by people less nice than me! Love it! It's

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/6/30 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Herouth Maoz wrote: Or am I missing something here? How will you supply round trip preservation of directionality (running program - disk - running program) if the application is unaware of the directionality? I'm not as technically inclined as

Re: installing CentOS without any monitor

2008-06-30 Thread Doron [Ofek BIZ]
What about using a kickstart server (web/nfs server that export the ks file) and using the DHCP server to pass the parameter of the kickstart server (next-server) to your server ? About the kickstart, the anakonda support installation via VNC , so you can use an empty file ( just with VNC

[Job Offer] Codefidence is looking for embedded/kernel developers

2008-06-30 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Hi all, We're looking for C/C++ developers with excellent familiarity with Linux and Open Source in general and embedded and/or kernel level experience. Training experience and customer facing position an advantage. If you have some of the requirements but not all and are willing to learn

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Cohen wrote: I'm not as technically inclined as you, so I may be missing something obvious here, but I think that the application will know which direction because I tell it, via the keyboard shortcut. If it's LTR and I want RTL I hit Ctrl-Alt-X and vice versa. Try it in a Mozilla app.

Re: Please vote for this KDE bidi bug, even if you are not a KDE user

2008-06-30 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dotan Cohen wrote: Politeness is not my intention in the lines below my name. There is an old usenet tradition that is still honored by many modern mail clients. If you put a line containing just two dashes and a space (i.e. - -- ), many mail clients will understand that to mean that that's

I need your addvice on ISP troubleshooting.

2008-06-30 Thread Meir Michanie
Hi list, for a month already I am experiencing some connectivity issues with Netvision. I have a static IP, a router and a bunch of workstations and vms behind it. flood pinging my internal netwrok gives me good speed and no packet losts. When trying to ping netvision or any outside domain I get

A Captain(s) for Publicising Events

2008-06-30 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all! (To [EMAIL PROTECTED] - sorry that this message is in English, but this is the Linux-IL policy). I've been thinking that may be we need a publicising team or publicising person for publicising events online and offline. Such events include: 1. Haifux - Haifa Linux Club. 2. Telux -

Re: I need your addvice on ISP troubleshooting.

2008-06-30 Thread sara fink
My first advice is to lie about the OS. Sadly that's the case. Or tell them you have another pc with windows and you have the same problem. 2nd advice, tell them that you checked at a neigbour and everything is ok. See their reaction on that. 3. Business account, threaten them. You lose money.