I think that the last posting on this thread, the one that said that
'the b-focus was manufactured by a third party company in the far east'
is lame as a conclusion. I sshd into the modem again and I found:
# grep Bezeq etc/*
versions:BOARD=B312p.Bezeq
So the board was manufactured
I did some research and found that ECI bought these modems from another
manufactorer in the far east (this is an OEM) so matters get a little
more complicated.
Who violated the GPL? it is either the original company whose identity I
don't know yet or ECI.
--
Ori Idan
Peter wrote:
On Sun,
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 08:25:24AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
For example, to have a standaing in court, we actually need to find
someone with code in the GPLed parts of that product - anyone here has
code in the kernel/busybox/glibc?
I have some code in the kernel. I never bothered to
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 08:25:24AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
I agree that Bezeq is violating the GPL with their distribution of the
router. Note that it is Bezeq, not ECI - you get the modem from them. I
have already given the matter some thought as part of Hamamor activities.
Peter wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
No it is not. There are many examples of kernel modules that provide
support for modems, network drivers and other devices, which are NOT
open source and NOT 'aggregations'. If you don't want to make your
802.11g wireless card work
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
Try following this, it is not very hard.
1. The ECI router runs Linux.
2. ECI got a copy of Linux from Montavista.
3. Montavista gave ECI both binary and source, so they comply with the
license.
4. ECI gave Matan a binary copy of Linux.
Actually, it was Bezeq
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
The only problem is that regardless to Monte Vista or ECI, the person
that did distribute the code in violation of the license terms is Bezeq.
While probably technically right, if Bezeq got the software from ECI,
then ECI are obliged to give you the sources shoudl
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
The only problem is that regardless to Monte Vista or ECI, the person
that did distribute the code in violation of the license terms is Bezeq.
While probably technically right, if Bezeq got the software from ECI, then
ECI
On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 06:58:37PM -0300, Roberto S. Meyer wrote:
They often use 10.0.0.1, 192.168.1.1, 192.168.100.1, c.
The two 312's I played with had 10.0.0.138, the same as the Alcatel
STH (and contrary to ECI 270, which had IIRC 192.168.1.1).
--
Didi
Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
Hi.
Just received an eci b-focus 312+ ADSL Router/Modem.
It is installed, configured, up and running.
However, I would like to be able to play around with it, and don't know how
to access it.
The default IP for the modem is 10.0.0.138, the username Admin (which
has
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From: Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Aharon Schkolnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Linux-IL linux-il@linux.org.il
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Accessing eci b-focus 312+ ADSL Router/Modem
Aharon Schkolnik wrote:
Hi.
Just received an eci b-focus 312+ ADSL Router
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
It's sort of funny in a way that it runs Linux - think for example how
many Israeli high ranking Microsoft execs connect to the internet using
this Bezeq provided Linux box and don't even realise it... :-)
I guess they would actually be happy, if
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 11:10:49AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
It's sort of funny in a way that it runs Linux - think for example how
many Israeli high ranking Microsoft execs connect to the internet using
this Bezeq provided Linux box and don't even realise it... :-)
I'm not sure
http://router
User: Admin
Pass: see cdrom manual, usually 1234
the browser must support javascript and frames. Note: user is Admin not
admin.
Peter
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2005, Roberto S. Meyer wrote:
The problem is you must investigate what IP your modem has. This
info is provided by the modem's manual.
They often use 10.0.0.1, 192.168.1.1, 192.168.100.1, c.
You need to find this info first and setup your ethernet card in
the same network.
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
It's sort of funny in a way that it runs Linux - think for example how
many Israeli high ranking Microsoft execs connect to the internet using
this Bezeq provided Linux box and don't even realise it... :-)
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Shaul Karl wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 11:10:49AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
It's sort of funny in a way that it runs Linux - think for example how
many Israeli high ranking Microsoft execs connect to the internet using
this Bezeq provided Linux box and don't even
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Peter wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Shaul Karl wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 11:10:49AM +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
It's sort of funny in a way that it runs Linux - think for example how
many Israeli high ranking Microsoft execs connect to the internet using
this
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
If it is an unmodified GPL version of well-known code like the kernel and
busybox then there is no need to provide the source since the binaries are
'stock'. You can d/l the source elsewhere.
It is best that you read the GPL, before you give opinions
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
It is best that you read the GPL, before you give opinions about it. The
license says nothing about well-known code. If you commercially distribute
a binary created from a GPL source to someone, you must either include a copy
of the source (3a) or a
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Peter wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
If it is an unmodified GPL version of well-known code like the kernel and
busybox then there is no need to provide the source since the binaries are
'stock'. You can d/l the source elsewhere.
It is best that you read
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Peter wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
It is best that you read the GPL, before you give opinions about it. The
license says nothing about well-known code. If you commercially
distribute a binary created from a GPL source to someone, you must either
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
No it is not. There are many examples of kernel modules that provide
support for modems, network drivers and other devices, which are NOT open
source and NOT 'aggregations'. If you don't want to make your 802.11g
wireless card work
If the modules are
From the GPL:
2, bottom:
In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program
with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of
a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under
the scope of this License.
From Monta Vista FAQ:
On Saturday 04 June 2005 20:47, Peter wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
If you commercially distribute a binary created from a GPL source to
someone, you must either include a copy of the source (3a) or a written
offer to provide the source (3b).
Or you must make it available
Oh, and speaking of Monta Vista making source accessible:
http://www.mvista.com/previewkit/index.html
To download the MontaVista Linux Preview Kit, fill out the simple
registration form below and you will be sent a download location and
installation key. If you have problems downloading or
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Peter wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
No it is not. There are many examples of kernel modules that provide
support for modems, network drivers and other devices, which are NOT open
source and NOT 'aggregations'. If you don't want to make your 802.11g
On Saturday 04 June 2005 23:22, Peter wrote:
Would you mind my hearing this from Linus ? Because he knows about these
embedded systems, and endorses them as far as I know.
You keep mixing aggregation and doing derived work. For people who'd rather
read what he says and not what you *claim*
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Oron Peled wrote:
Or you must make it available to the user on request. On your website,
or someone else's.
1. Peter you forgot that in any case a copy of the LICENSE is required
to be *provided* to the user (so he knows his rights). I just looked in
the provided
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
- don't use the modules! Suse, Red Hat and others regularly ship with
such modules in the distribution. Some graphics card drivers (like
nvidia) are notorious for this. Most 802.11g drivers available run
the original (win32) driver in an emulation because they are closed
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
I.o.w., if the modules come on disk and are loaded at run time by a script
it's ok. You know what ? That's exactly what they are doing. Unbelievable.
No. If they are distributed together (as in the case of an embedded device),
it is surely not mere
Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jun 2005, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
It's sort of funny in a way that it runs Linux - think for example how
many Israeli high ranking Microsoft execs connect to the internet using
this Bezeq provided Linux box and don't even realise it... :-)
I guess they
Hi.
Just received an eci b-focus 312+ ADSL Router/Modem.
It is installed, configured, up and running.
However, I would like to be able to play around with it, and don't know how
to access it.
ifconfig shows:
ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
inet addr:85.64.138.230
Aharon Schkolnik escribió/wrote/a écrit:
Hi.
Just received an eci b-focus 312+ ADSL Router/Modem.
It is installed, configured, up and running.
However, I would like to be able to play around with it, and don't know how
to access it.
ifconfig shows:
ppp0 Link
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